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 Race So, I went to see Race on Broadway last night.  Not the original cast (most notably, no Kerry Washington) and the new actors were awful. Eddie Izzard - He was fucking drunk. Slurring his words, dropping lines, correcting himself. The guy walked right through the role. And I wanted to like him because I generally love Eddie Izzard. Dennis Haysbert - What a fucking complete fraud this guy is. His whole career is based on him having a deep voice. Because it sure as hell has nothing to do with his acting, which is atrocious. The loser playing the accused - A complete fucking joke. The young, black female associate - Can't tell if she would have been workable if she had something to work with because she had nothing to work with. Other than her looks and figure, she did not impress. Finally, let's talk about Mamet. I've never seen Speed the Plow, American Buffalo or Oleanna but I have seen The Spanish Prisoner, Glengarry Glenn Ross, The Verdict and The Untouchables. I thought Glengarry and Untouchables were fantastic. The Verdict was good and The Spanish Prisoner was god awful. But this play is a new low. The twist at the end is pointless. The (presumably purposefully) disjointed message he is trying to send through his characters about race is so random and meaningless that I felt like the whole exercise was a complete waste of everyone's time. But there the overwhelmingly white crowd was, eating this shit up. Mamet is clearly skilled at delivering sharp-tongued dialogue. But without the necessary insight into the subject matter he is tackling, he comes off as a smart guy trying to trick someone into thinking he knows what he's talking about. Here's a tip: Whenever you have a prominent black character talk about how he can't stand when people assume he is where he is because of affirmative action, check the credits to see if whatever you're watching was written by a white man (or Alan Keyes).* Anyway, the play is about a rich white man accused of raping a working class black woman and how his lawyers tackle the case. Stereotypes are thrown around for no real reason and the payoff at the end, as I said, is a complete waste of time. Mamet is in way over his head. And the standing ovation given by the large and almost entirely white crowd (thrilled at being comfortable enough to laugh at the phrase "little nigger bitch") made me a little sick. I read an interview about his approach to the writing of this play and he said he didn't want to draw any easy conclusions for the audience. Bullshit. He's hiding. And his cowardice manifests itself through the audience's comfort. Contrast this play with August Wilson's Fences, starring Denzel, which was a powerfully written, brilliantly acted, look at the effect of racism on a working class man, and the resulting consequences of that man's bitterness on his family. Mamet should be ashamed of himself for putting that steaming pile of shit on stage for all the world to see in the same country, let alone in the same 3 block radius as Fences. TM *This argument against affirmative action fails because whether or not affirmative action exists (and it sure as hell doesn't in almost every aspect of life), the presumption for almost every black person is that s/he is where s/he is because they were given something. It was always be that way. | 
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 But I am disappointed to hear that about Dennis Haysbert. I really liked him in Far From Heaven. | 
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 And based on your review I will pass on seeing Race if it makes it out here to flyover land. | 
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 But I had a detailed conversation about AA with a black man a few days after my state decided to ban it for school admissions. the day of the vote a white associate at my firm told me he really hoped it passed because "rich black kids in Bloomfield Hills are riding on it into better schools." the statement was so stupid as to make my head explode, and i told the guy as much, while trying not to be too big of a lecturing assholes to him, because too many white people have no real experience with black people as complete people, especially here. But in my later conversation I said AA needs to exist, at least for schools. There are too many bright young black men that have never had a father, and have no family history of college, and their mom works silly hours to keep them where they are (e.g. out of Detroit schools as an example). I said, there is no way you can say that kid is on equal footing with my kids or any other of the white kids growing up around them all. The black kid needs a chance, if nothing else the promise that he will have a chance so he work through school. The black guy had an entirely different take on it. He didn't change my take so much as make me realize we can agree on where to go, but see different reasons. And that made me realize that, even though I'm beginning to write, if I write a play about race, and there are characters expressing a black man's view I'm going to look for a co-writer., or at least a sounding board The divides and different experiences are still to imposing. p.s. who knew he wrote the Verdict. I do think Ironweed would be better off if he had never seen that particular role model. | 
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