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This: "duties will involve catching and eating ........ crabs." I keep kosher:confused::(

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So thinking about the Wire, and cops and pols, and who wasn't ultimately "bad."

Every pol was crooked, so that's easy.

Good cops? Bunk, Kima, Daniels besides whatever happened at the past precinct, Bunny of course. Was Carver ever bad? Any other good cops?

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How was Tommy crooked?

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well not bribe taking crooked, but cutting corners and breaking promises so he could get to the gov chair crooked.

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Was Carcetti ever affirmatively crooked? I don't think Tony Gray was shown to be crooked either, just horribly naive.

Carver was at least supposed to be looked down upon in the early days of the unit, and was part of the bad scene in the projects at night with Herc and Prez. I think there might also have been some hints of him being on the take in his early precinct days too, but I don't recall for sure.

Sydnor was good, I think, although he never had all that much of a part. Most of the bit-player homicide cops were never really implicated, but they also just weren't a big part of the show.

But that's one of the things that makes the show compelling. Pretty much all of the characters live in a world of grays, and some that would look to the outside as particularly bad were also among the most compelling (Omar, of course, and Bubbles).

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Funny, I watched this scene today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJFr8Q1Tx10

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That was "bad", not "crooked." His pride and ambition got in the way....

What about Omar? Not an angel, but at least WYSIWYG

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This is what's really interesting to me -- the path the characters took. Part of what made it such a great show. Carver was an asshole initially. Then he got serious, got responsible, etc. Prez was in deeply over his head as a street cop, and tried to be macho to compensate. But he reached levels where he could shine, first working with Lester and then as a teacher.

And so on, and so on.

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That ain't crooked if it works.

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Yeah, who cares if you fuck over the school system you promised to fund because you were worried that accepting money from the governor would compromise your ability to jump up to a higher office in the middle of your first term?

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(1) I've never seen the show.

(2) People get the government they ask for. Whether it's also the government they deserve is too philosophical a question even for me. But at this point I hear anyone who says their government sucks in the same clinical way that an economist hears a consumer saying the price they just paid for something was "too high."

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If you find yourself far from God, guess who moved.

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Where you live, a man has to hold a neighborhood meeting before he can trim a tree on his own lawn, yet another man can open a restaurant and pipe raw sewage gas at his customers with no apparent regulation. I don't know what Government that is, but the founders didn't envision it, I'll promise you that.

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You have to admit it was a faithful recreation of a European outdoor dining experience.

I'll say again Ty picked the place. I voted Slanted Door but apparently that's now bourgeois.