Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 427972)

An hour, LeBron? Really? WTF are you going to say to fill a full hour?

Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 427972)

An hour, LeBron? Really? WTF are you going to say to fill a full hour?

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 427967)

We're talking Miss Texas here. She was an anorexic vehicle for transporting large amounts of hair and greasy make-up.

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 427969)

Speaking of black people, Prince is a seriously tripped out little dude:

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenois...es_uk_inte.php

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 427967)

We're talking Miss Texas here. She was an anorexic vehicle for transporting large amounts of hair and greasy make-up. If only a nice hispanic girl had won and gone to law school instead.

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 427976)

I think it's kind of cool. Exploit the circus to send the proceeds to the Boys and Girls Club? Very savvy. Can you imagine Kobe, ARod or any other modern athlete doing that?

TM

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 427974)

It's a power problem. To be successful, whites don't need to know blacks. They can set up a two-dimensional stereotype (positive or negative) and live very happily with that. Move to the suburbs, build a gated community far away, build highways around "bad" neighborhoods, design an education system based on property taxes, etc. But blacks, hispanics and asians have to know white people to be successful. Hell, minorities don't have a choice but to know white people. They raise their kids, clean their houses, work for them in every capacity. We have to know how to keep you happy, learn how to be non-threatening, conform, adjust and assimilate. You can be a white person in this country and never, ever, ever have to answer to a black or hispanic person. You don't need to know anything them and, as a group, you actively limit your exposure. And almost every interaction involves a dynamic which doesn't require real knowledge.

The obvious rebuttal is that so much black and hispanic culture permeates American culture that whites have that knowledge, but that ain't true. It's that two-dimensional understanding that survives.

If I were a white guy writing a tv show or movie and wanted an authentic black character, I would hire an actor who could contribute meaningfully and incorporate his ideas. It's not like white writers and directors can't do it. The Wire and Treme are perfect examples of shows in which white people have actually learned (by submersion) black culture and have their characters speak and act authentically.

TM

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 427977)

Nicely done.

TM

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 427974)

You can be a white person in this country and never, ever, ever have to answer to a black or hispanic person. You don't need to know anything them and, as a group, you actively limit your exposure.

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 427959)

Oh, pfffft. Big deal. I thought you meant passing on the shoulder on the right -- which happens here all the time. It's so aggravating -- lots of geriatrics who go (no kidding) 20 miles below the speed limit. Grrrr.

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 427982)

You think a Hispanic Miss Texas wouldn't have been anorexic with big hair and lots of makeup? if there were a Venn diagram for beauty pageants, Texas, big hair and lots of makeup would be an the intersection.

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 427969)

Speaking of black people, Prince is a seriously tripped out dude:

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenois...es_uk_inte.php

Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 427983)

There is that, and I don't begrudge LeBron for treating this as the business opportunity that it is. I'm more irritated at the premise that we're going to want to watch for an hour, or that there's shit worth saying that'll take that long to fill it. If they bring in Seacrest to host this thing, I'm gonna be pissed.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 427986)

I agree with everything in your post. I quoted this not to disagree with it, but to observe that the second half of the 20th century will be remembered for requiring people who do make that choice not to answer to or interact with people of color (or Jews or women) to give up large chunks of their participation in society generally -- they cannot be in the military; they cannot be schoolteachers; they increasingly cannot be police officers or elected officials. They cannot own a business unless they locate it where the demographers say there are no people of color.

So white folks can "choose" not to engage with black folks and Hispanic folks, but the costs of that choice have risen exponentially, and not all of it has risen by government fiat, which is pretty cool.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 427951)

Again, if I'm D Wade I really don't want to be on LJ's team. unless they change the rules to allow two balls.