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sgtclub

06-16-2016 05:51 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 501357)

We were holding it open just for you.

I figured once Trump got the nomination it would have spontaneously combusted.

Sidd Finch

06-16-2016 07:35 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 501363)

I figured once Trump got the nomination it would have spontaneously combusted.

When Slave next visits, it just might.

Tyrone Slothrop

06-17-2016 02:37 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 501322)

If my husband were accused of rape, and he was innocent, I would let it work through the court system.

If your husband were a public figure and you thought the rape accusations were efforts to damage his reputation, rather than sincere claims for judicial relief, you might think that letting it work through the court system would be super unsatisfactory.

Not a big fan of the Clintons, but suggestion that the judicial process should have played out seems to entirely miss that none of the accusations seemed to be principally about the judicial process, except as cover.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

06-17-2016 02:38 PM

Re: Enough

God save me from the endless Brocialist Mating Calls on the pages of my Bernie Sanders supporting friends. Next person using the words "shill", "establishment", or "corrupt" is going to regret it.

taxwonk

06-17-2016 03:37 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 501299)

Well, Juanita Broaddrick was the allegation of rape, which Sidd seems to think gives Hillary the right to say and do whatever in defending her husband. I brought up the additional incidents to demonstrate that with respect to less serious allegations, Hillary pulled out all the stops in discrediting those accusers, even the ones who were later proved to have made truthful allegations that were admitted by Bill under oath.

To me, if my husband had already been a proved liar and serial philanderer, and settled a sexual harassment charge for a large sum of money, I don't think I would be as certain as Sidd seems to be that all of the allegations made, including that of sexual assault or rape, are categorically false. Bill should have the right and procedural protections to defend himself, but the accuser deserves her day in court as well. Discrediting honest women as sluts and floozies and stalkers certainly can cause one to question the veracity of all of the other denials.

I'm just curious. How does what her husband may or may not have done have a single thing to do with her fitness to run for President?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

06-17-2016 03:44 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 501367)

I'm just curious. How does what her husband may or may not have done have a single thing to do with her fitness to run for President?

While all the Republican here is worried about rape, maybe it's time to start a discussion on Gillibrand's bill on military sexual assault....

taxwonk

06-17-2016 03:58 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 501368)

While all the Republican here is worried about rape, maybe it's time to start a discussion on Gillibrand's bill on military sexual assault....

It doesn't go far enough. It should decommission any commander who tries to interfere with a prosecution where there is a subsequent finding of probable cause to prosecute. It should make active participation in an attempt to intimidate a victim into pursuing a complaint an offense for which the commanding officer does time.

Tyrone Slothrop

06-17-2016 05:35 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 501338)

As to the email, I know that you don't care that despite what she says, the State Department report reveals it was not "allowed". She has lied about that more times than I can possibly count.

(a) Do you really believe the Secretary of State makes her own independent judgment about what the State Department regulations "allow" her to do with her email? She has people to do that for her, and more important things to worry about.

(b) Do you remember the contents of all the email you got over several years when you were busy doing a job? Of course you don't. Testifying mistakenly about said contents could be, but isn't necessarily "lying."

(c) The federal government's laws and rules concerning the classification and handling of information are a massive clusterfuck that enables *anyone* handling such information to be accused of violations, possibly criminal violations. This doesn't mean that everyone is a saint, but it does mean that you need to show me more to convince that someone is a sinner. OTOH, if you've already made up your mind, it's grist for the mill.

Tyrone Slothrop

06-17-2016 05:37 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 501354)

Do I like electing her? No. But the GOP gave this race away.

And before that, the Democrats did. Bernie's success shows that someone could have beaten her in the primary. Just not Martin O'Malley, apparently.

Hank Chinaski

06-17-2016 06:12 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 501371)

And before that, the Democrats did. Bernie's success shows that someone could have beaten her in the primary. Just not Martin O'Malley, apparently.

I was about to be in SF for a showthatcan'tbenamed last month. I was going to see if you/Atticus/sidd* wanted to meet me, but honestly the drive you guys had to get into SF last time seemed so horrible I just didn't think it polite to ask.

*of course, sidd would decline:confused:

Sidd Finch

06-17-2016 07:49 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 501372)

If I knew your wife would be there, I might not decline. I like her. You, not so much.

Tyrone Slothrop

06-18-2016 12:41 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 501372)

I get to Brussels on weekdays more often than San Francisco.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

06-19-2016 07:29 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Bernie v. POC, Part 5

Once upon a time, we had these debates after the election, not at the convention, so we weren't confusing personal battles in the campaign with issues of institutional health and well-being. We'll see if the brocialists are able to force the issue or if the vote is tabled until after the election.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

06-19-2016 07:30 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 501374)

I get to Brussels on weekdays more often than San Francisco.

I'm sorry.

Pretty Little Flower

06-20-2016 03:59 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 501376)

I'm sorry.

I'm not. But I did have to take last week off from the Daily Dose of Funk due to extreme importance. So we'll snap back into it with some rare funk with a happening vamp and a nice horn breakdown. Because it's summertime and I'm feeling the groove. It's "The Funky Thing" by The Unemployed for your Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsWbb-vJvFc

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