Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

That'll be a the after-the-fact explanation. But that's not going to hold much water. This guy was clearly saying, "Kayne West's music and persona are not typically or traditionally 'American.'" Full stop.

I don't think they worried about West saying something nuts in the least. I think they felt he would not be received well by the audience, and Trump's having him perform would be criticized by the lunatic right wing racists. That's probably true on both counts. But instead, the dumb fuck ducked the question by insulting West, and other artists of his race and genre. Putting aside the offensiveness of his comment which is so obvious it almost needn't be noted, I'd say: Good fucking move, dude. Great thinking there. Alienating the entire hip hop community won't come back to bite you in the ass. They don't have any platform from which to speak. Nobody hears what they have to say. No one at all.

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

In tribute to the possibly soon-to-be-departed Val Kilmer's second finest role, "I'm [not] your huckleberry" on this one.* There's no rationalizing what that cat said.

I look at every situation subjectively. There's no benefit of the doubt to be applied here. As dog whistles go, this was a pretty strong bullhorn.


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* First being Morrison in The Doors.

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

Um. You think they got any votes at all from "the entire hip hop community??"

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

I know this is what you're getting at, but how the fuck could anyone define what constitutes the "entire hip hop community?"

TM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

And isn't there a non-trivial portion of the hip hop community that does not like Kanye?

(Although the underlying racism may offend even them)

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

About this hip hop community -- where is it, and what are its zoning laws?

Re: Traditional American
 

I don't know them as in "have met them" of "are friends with them" (although one of my friends used to know the main dude) but I had that album and saw them live a couple times way back in the day. Really good live show. But damn that first album was a little skit heavy, even by hip hop standards.

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 

The guy I'm dating (look at me, I'm dating someone!) drove down to TJ last month to scope it out. He spent the night in Rosarito. He had a good time, ate some good food and said it is worth seeing, with the caveat that "I'm a sociologist so I am interested in more gritty urban stuff". Maybe not a ringing endorsement for a vacation destination. Getting across the border was relatively painless (obviously more work on the way back than on the way in).

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 

Crossing the border to TJ once (when I was young and full of piss and vinegar and still hated it) was enough so that I'd never set foot in Mexico again with your foot and Joey Ramone pushing.

Oddly enough I was opening for the ramones when I went down there.

Re: Traditional American
 

Man, I have not listened to some of those songs in many years. But it makes a nice entree to today's Daily Dose. The title track to their first album, "Tricks of the Shade," sampled The Honey Drippers song "Impeach The President." A-fucking-men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbEsS5kFb8

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 

So not the married dude?

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 

NOT the married dude. I met this guy two days after the married dude.

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

He's saying something loads of old crotchety bigots (and non-bigots) say: Rap isn't real music. The definition of "real music" is styles similar to what old white people recall from their youth. That covers the entire hip hop community.

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 

I'd tell you you're using the wrong sock but now I can only think of that guy's real name and not his zoning-obsessed sock name.