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Adder 01-19-2017 04:45 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 505245)
...Unless further division is intended.

Is this thing on?

Adder 01-19-2017 04:47 PM

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 
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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive (Post 505252)
Ha ha ha. I'm glad to be doing my part to turn the politics board into the fashion board.

Well it sounds like ya could be but ya aren't.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-19-2017 04:48 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 505243)
As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

False

ThurgreedMarshall 01-19-2017 05:11 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 505243)
As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw

ThurgreedMarshall 01-19-2017 05:14 PM

Re: Who's the prez? That's easy, man. He used to be on Death Valley Days, John Wayne
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 505250)
You say this as though there's such a thing as freaky ass clean shit.

There's a difference. You can be freaky and non-burnt freaky. But if you're making trips to Tijuana to see just how dirty it gets, you're definitely getting burnt.

TM

Replaced_Texan 01-19-2017 05:45 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 505259)
Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw


There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

Pretty Little Flower 01-19-2017 06:10 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 505243)
As a crotchety old dude: real music requires actual instruments.

Some hip hop qualifies. Some does not.

That probably makes me a bigot.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, this displays such an incredible fucking ignorance of the artistry and creativity that goes into making hip hop music (and also writes off pretty much ALL electronica and most pop music today as non-music), it makes my fucking head explode. Go watch Hip Hop Evolution and The Get Down and Scratch and . . . actually, don't bother. You clearly have so little concept about how most "music" has been made in the last 30 years that you are completely beyond hope. You probably listen to the little top 40 songs and imagine real live musicians playing horns and strings and other "legitimate instruments" because you lack any fucking clue about music today. But let me say with absolute certainty that so many of the DJs and producers who created the music behind the rappers were far greater musicians and musical visionaries than so many of the technically gifted but musically pedestrian session musicians that created the background for the singing that you enjoy.

Pretty Little Flower 01-19-2017 06:11 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 505259)
Wait. Is this serious?

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

TM

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKRAn-ZleM

+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtop6MCENsY

^http://www.rollingstone.com/music/vi...w-doc-20141015

~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayZ9ybDTBw

Exactly.

Icky Thump 01-19-2017 07:09 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 505269)
There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

Everyone I know who graduated Berklee is excellent at telling when the burger is medium well.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-19-2017 07:14 PM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 505269)
There's a turntable class at Berklee: https://www.berklee.edu/courses/ilen-333

'course, they also teach electronic music composition and production, so they're probably not a real music school: https://online.berklee.edu/courses/i...sic-production

Symphony for Orchestra and Turntable

sebastian_dangerfield 01-20-2017 12:40 AM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 505241)
Man, it is very disconcerting to be an old white dude who recalls rap from my youth. What am I supposed to do?

On behalf of America, however, I think we should all disavow Tony Orlando, with or without Dawn. That shit should go back to the elevator it was born in and just descend to the basement.

You're supposed to be an old white dude who gets drunk and spouts his philosophy.

"No! You little shits... Get your history straight! He's wasn't in fucking REM! But he should have been in Sublime... But that's another story. Get that frisbee off my lawn or I'll keep it!"

This should never leave anyone's permanent playlist.

If you mix up NWA, Motorhead, Dead Kennedys, and the first three PE records, you get a running mix that inclines you to amazing levels of aggression - some pointless, but most validated.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-20-2017 12:46 AM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 505256)
Is this thing on?

That is, demographically speaking, political suicide.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-20-2017 09:38 AM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 505275)
You're supposed to be an old white dude who gets drunk and spouts his philosophy.

"No! You little shits... Get your history straight! He's wasn't in fucking REM! But he should have been in Sublime... But that's another story. Get that frisbee off my lawn or I'll keep it!"

This should never leave anyone's permanent playlist.

If you mix up NWA, Motorhead, Dead Kennedys, and the first three PE records, you get a running mix that inclines you to amazing levels of aggression - some pointless, but most validated.

That's all well and good but I've moved on. My musical life right now revolves around how the Pipa and Urhu can work with a full orchestra and electric violin.

Adder 01-20-2017 10:06 AM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 505259)
Wait. Is this serious?

Yes.

Quote:

If so, does a turntable* qualify as an "actual instrument" in your mind? How about beat boxing?+ A TR-808?^ A computer?~

No.

There may be some exceptions, but we're in crotchety old white dude territory here so they can be ignored.

ETA: Okay, so I'll give beat boxing a maybe and grant Ty the choral exception, although I'm not a big fan of choral music in general.

ThurgreedMarshall 01-20-2017 10:24 AM

Re: Looking for answers to questions that bothered him so.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 505278)
No.

There may be some exceptions, but we're in crotchety old white dude territory here so they can be ignored.

I know you're trying to be cutesy, but this is so fucking stupid that I wouldn't expect it from you.

TM


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