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sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 530411)
Why the lawyer who does the dep should do the trial should do the briefs should do the appeal. You don't really have to read anything.

I did that once. Never. Again.

And I won the appeal! It was arduous on a level I’d never like to relive. So fucking boring. Same facts over and over and over.

Icky Thump 10-29-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 530414)
I did that once. Never. Again.

And I won the appeal! It was arduous on a level I’d never like to relive. So fucking boring. Same facts over and over and over.

Boring is effective. Effective = money. For plaintiffs anyway.

Pretty Little Flower 10-29-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 530413)
There will be no more lockdowns. Biden will stir a near literal civil war if it is even attempted.

If Trump should somehow win, I can’t fathom a guess at what’ll happen.

The media will blame the social unrest entirely on division allegedly sown by Trump. That’ll be bullshit everyone will see as bullshit. If the Gothams start burning, it’ll be because of economic pressures and the fact that poor people in tightly packed locales will effectively have been imprisoned with no money while being forced to watch their livelihoods vanish.

There is no “lives over economy” argument. Ultimately, you protect both or you protect neither.

People! Heed my warning. We need to listen to Sebastian about what is going to happen in the future and what we should do about it! He has NEVER BEEN WRONG about anything regarding the pandemic. He’s literally the only one left we can trust.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 530416)
People! Heed my warning. We need to listen to Sebastian about what is going to happen in the future and what we should do about it! He has NEVER BEEN WRONG about anything regarding the pandemic. He’s literally the only one left we can trust.

You think anyone’s going to be able to enforce lockdowns? If Trump wins and the cities go nuts, he won’t be able to control it any better than Biden.

It’s going to be a crazy winter if you’re living in a densely populated area.

Pretty Little Flower 10-29-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 530417)
You think anyone’s going to be able to enforce lockdowns? If Trump wins and the cities go nuts, he won’t be able to control it any better than Biden.

It’s going to be a crazy winter if you’re living in a densely populated area.

How the fuck would I know? I can't predict the future. You're the only one I know who can do that.

Hank Chinaski 10-29-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 530418)
How the fuck would I know? I can't predict the future. You're the only one I know who can do that.

I can! 4 years ago I predicted that the race was a toss up and Pa and Mi were toss ups and if she lost either he was president. But I can't change history cuz I tried to tell people to vote and NOT vote 3rd party, but they did{sad face}

Step 1 admit I was powerless to change how people vote.

Hank Chinaski 10-29-2020 07:43 PM

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https://www.covidactnow.org/?s=1216298

A few weeks ago 30 states were light orange- now 3. We are headed to Sweden- by January we will either have herd immunity, or there is no such thing.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 530420)
https://www.covidactnow.org/?s=1216298

A few weeks 30 states were light orange- now 3. We are headed to Sweden- by January we will either have herd immunity, or there is no such thing.

March seems more realistic.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 530419)
I can! 4 years ago I predicted that the race was a toss up and Pa and Mi were toss ups and if she lost either he was president. But I can't change history cuz I tried to tell people to vote and NOT vote 3rd party, but they did{sad face}

Step 1 admit I was powerless to change how people vote.

I’ve a meeting on the 3rd and a hearing. The former will involve scotch. Try me at 5:00 and see if I can tempt a DUI to get to the polling station.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-30-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 530409)
You won’t find me with many appellate lawyers. Appealing legal issues is fine. That’s just argument. Appealing fact driven cases or those where evidentiary rulings matter test the limits of the word “tedious.” Reading trial transcripts is a penalty of one of Dante’s rings.

Almost all of my appellate work has been the result of me winning summary judgment and the plaintiff appealing. Even my one post-trial appeal was an appeal of an SJ motion that was denied way early in the case. All legal issues.

Trials are dumb - a case that goes to trial is a failure.

Adder 10-30-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 530420)
https://www.covidactnow.org/?s=1216298

A few weeks ago 30 states were light orange- now 3. We are headed to Sweden- by January we will either have herd immunity, or there is no such thing.

That's an optimistic timeline.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-30-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 530413)
There will be no more lockdowns. Biden will stir a near literal civil war if it is even attempted.

If Trump should somehow win, I can’t fathom a guess at what’ll happen.

The media will blame the social unrest entirely on division allegedly sown by Trump. That’ll be bullshit everyone will see as bullshit. If the Gothams start burning, it’ll be because of economic pressures and the fact that poor people in tightly packed locales will effectively have been imprisoned with no money while being forced to watch their livelihoods vanish.

There is no “lives over economy” argument. Ultimately, you protect both or you protect neither.

"Gothams"? There's more than one now?

Icky Thump 10-30-2020 01:02 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 530423)

Trials are dumb - a case that goes to trial is a failure.

Just hand over the money then and no one gets hurt.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-30-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 530426)
Just hand over the money then and no one gets hurt.

I agree...when I'm the plaintiff, which I am now more than I used to be.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-30-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 530423)
Almost all of my appellate work has been the result of me winning summary judgment and the plaintiff appealing. Even my one post-trial appeal was an appeal of an SJ motion that was denied way early in the case. All legal issues.

Trials are dumb - a case that goes to trial is a failure.

Yup. If you're trying a case, you're losing money. Or not making as much as you should have.


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