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sebastian_dangerfield 12-01-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 408664)
I think you might want to be careful with the use of "us" on this one.

Excuse me? Whatever the melanin level in your skin, if there's anyone approaching the embodiment of the stereotype parodied by Murphy, it's you.

Adder 12-01-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 408665)
How does fooling around equal a bit of passion in one's life?

Um. This can't be what you meant to ask.

ThurgreedMarshall 12-01-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 408651)
Maybe he gets a different but equally good image. Instead of being some golfing stiff with generic plastic fantastic arm candy, suddenly it seems there's a bit of passion in his life.

Tiger has always seemed dull dull dull.

I'm not arguing he should keep his image. I am saying he will view it as tarnished.

And Tiger is dull in how he approaches the press, but he is a monster on the course and his personality, when it comes to golf is anything but dull. He wants to crush everyone in his path, expects to, and makes it apparent. That was the most exciting and controversial thing in golf when he first arrived. And his attitude (not just his skill) completely changed the sport.

TM

Sidd Finch 12-01-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 408590)
She's a buck-ten dripping wet. He can bench 300lbs and hit a ball 320 yards, routinely. If she had a gun, I'd be frightened for his life. But as things stand, this sounds like a couple having the mother of all arguments after his mistress accidentally called to wish him a happy Thanksgiving on the main home number.

You shouldn't take domestic violence seriously if the victim can deal with it by beating the shit out of the attacker?

Hank Chinaski 12-01-2009 02:04 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 408648)
Image tarnished. After everyone knows he has a crazy wife who smashes cars with golf clubs and hits him when she's angry, he just another schmoe with a lot of money.

I didn't say he would crash to Earth.

TM

in the amsterdam airport, at this large merging space where the intra-EC terminal opens into the Int'l terminal there is an enormous ad- 90% an image of an unnamed guy swinging a golf club. the text is limited to the far right side and is something about a local bank being reliable.

it doesn't mention his name at all- in Europe, and in an ad for a bank. he could lose that type endorsement, you know pure cold-blooded reliability, but will likely keep the Nike stuff.

while tiger is black to most, I do think his main breakthrough was young/old. he was the one who broke golf away from being an old man's game*. I took my dad to the Masters for practice rounds the first two year he was there- the first year the crowd was mixed white and black, but mostly old. that year Tiger broke out- the next year the masters' crowd was still racially mixed but much much younger.

of course that was a while ago, but I doubt his real fans will give a shit about this scandal.

*of course, Cialis and that pee-too-often TV spots still mention "as advertizse in Golf Digest" so the wonks are still playing too.

ThurgreedMarshall 12-01-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 408659)
Do you think you'd get the same work (or would have back when you were a baby lawyer and people didn't know your work product) if you spoke in a stereotypical "black" way at work? My guess would be that you wouldn't.

But that could just be my inner class-ist coming out.

Holy crap. Did you really pull just this out of the post, completely twist it and ask the most ridiculous question I've ever heard?

It was included because it cuts the exact other way. All things being equal when it comes to speaking skills, partners assume everyone at this firm speaks properly. But when it comes to work, they don't always assign things the same based on the color of one's skin.

Someone else help me out. How could anyone get to wherever Fugee is in the above post based on what I wrote and its context?

TM

Sidd Finch 12-01-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 408644)
Okay. And I understand and appreciate the joke. But people (and I don't mean you particularly, because this applies to everyone, including black people) need to understand that black people are black because of the color of their skin. Because he doesn't speak with what people think of as "black vernacular" is irrelevant. In some cases it may be evidence of someone who is black who doesn't want to identify with other black people and isn't interested in their heritage or history. But the fact that speaking with a voice with less bass or using proper grammar, etc. enables so many to place him in the "not-really-black" category, starts to get offensive.

I hear this shit sometimes. Hell, a certain amount of education at all subjects you to this kind of garbage. "You don't talk black." "Thurgreed isn't really black." Yeah. All good fun until I want to fuck your lilly-white daughter. Then I get black again real quick, don't I? Cabbies don't care about grammar. Cops don't give a shit how you talk if you're in the wrong neighborhood. Partners don't assign work based on whether or not you speak well. And racists sure as hell don't care about any of that (please see treatment of Obama or do a google image search for Michelle Obama).

Anyway, not to get all serious, because I appreciate the joke, like it and sometimes use it myself. Just want to make sure that people don't get too comfortable with it.*

TM

*And this is one of the reasons why I love Chappelle so much. He walked away from $50 million dollars, at least partly, because of this.


I read this, and can only think of Chris Rock's riff on how Colin Powell "speaks so well." "What do you expect him to say? 'I'm gonna drop me some bombs today!'?"

ThurgreedMarshall 12-01-2009 02:08 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 408663)
I understand, and I guess my point wasn't that he "sounds white", but more that he sounds like a nerd. Because Murphy's impression is that of a nerdy white guy.

Or do all of us sound like that to black people?

No. But you do all look like this:

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/upl...-whiteface.jpg

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 12-01-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 408679)
I'm not arguing he should keep his image. I am saying he will view it as tarnished.

And Tiger is dull in how he approaches the press, but he is a monster on the course and his personality, when it comes to golf is anything but dull. He wants to crush everyone in his path, expects to, and makes it apparent. That was the most exciting and controversial thing in golf when he first arrived. And his attitude (not just his skill) completely changed the sport.

TM

I don't take golf seriously as a sport because I suck at it.

Cletus Miller 12-01-2009 02:09 PM

Re: What to do?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 408523)
Were there purple cows at your school?

Not that I was aware of.

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 408527)
Fixed that for you.

But of course. Tho it gives them an opportunity to seek a "hot breakfast" endowment.

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 408528)
I assume you mean for the book itself.

Well, yeah. As a contrast to Ty receiving a direct ask for $65 for their book.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 12-01-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 408684)
No. But you do all look like this:

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/upl...-whiteface.jpg

TM

Part of the reason that I braid glass beads and other colourful trinkets and treasure into my beard is to break out of that stereotype.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-01-2009 02:13 PM

Re: What to do?
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 408686)

But of course. Tho it gives them an opportunity to seek a "hot breakfast" endowment.

The Hank Chinaski 1989 JD1992 Permanent Hot Breakfast Fund.*

*Featuring the Cleveland Steamer

robustpuppy 12-01-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Slippers
 
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Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 408538)
Someone nicely got me slippers with heatable inserts that go in the bottoms but my mom does not like me to walk in them. Do there exist slippers that won't slide off (so ankles fasten or are like the tops of socks) that the sle of the foot has a heater?

Next gift I send you will be vodka and some grippy stuff to put on the bottom of your slippers.

ThurgreedMarshall 12-01-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 408681)
while tiger is black to most, I do think his main breakthrough was young/old. he was the one who broke golf away from being an old man's game*. I took my dad to the Masters for practice rounds the first two year he was there- the first year the crowd was mixed white and black, but mostly old. that year Tiger broke out- the next year the masters' crowd was still racially mixed but much much younger.

There is either something wrong with my computer screen in how it's processing your words or something terribly wrong with my televisions color controls, because I think I just read what you wrote about The Masters, "the crowd was mixed white and black."*

TM

*You will need to prove this to me by taking me to The Masters. Thanks.

Cletus Miller 12-01-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Woods' (alleged) Jump-Off
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 408682)
Someone else help me out. How could anyone get to wherever Fugee is in the above post based on what I wrote and its context?

TM

I think it follows a similar path that mmmmmmmmm31415 did with the mentor thing. Not that Fugee's necessarily following that path (I think she just missed your point entirely), but that's how someone gets there.


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