Nu Bra
 

There's one in Friendship Heights. Is it men's only? Doesn't much matter to me if it is.

And Tyson's has one. If you can't go ten miles for a store, quitcher bitchin' It's not like going to Mexico.

Nu Bra
 

Right, bc going to Mexico would be pleasant. A mall in the burbs is full of middle americans with follow the trends, materialistic taste who shop exclusively at chain stores and buy brand names and drive gigantic SUVs and park in eight story parking complexes and live in McMansions and probably never did an interesting thing in their safe little lives. I dont want to be standing on a line in a huge building with recycled oxygen with them. My materialism is not so strong that this would be my idea of a good way of spending my precious free time.

One Halloween I drove out to Ballston(?) or someplace with threelane highways and every horrid mega chain store that stretched for miles, intersperced with the most depressing condos I have ever seen, to go to a Target. It freaked me out like I accidentally stumbled into some Pynchonian nightmare. Its like America got nuked and the only thing left were those cockrochian Home Depots and OfficeMaxes that probalby could withstand anything thrown at them. It was hell off a highway.

Clay v. Ruben
 

http://www.msnbc.com/news/928500.asp?0cv=CB20

It looks like Clay outsold Ruben by 100K singles in the first week. I may have to pick up the Rolling Stone with Clay's interview. I can put the cover picture up in my bedroom with all of the other ones from Tiger Beat.

Edited to add that I have Clay's single, but not Ruben's

Malls
 

Weren't you the one lamenting the absence of a Saks in DC?
The Hecht's in downtown DC is remarkably similar to the one in Tyson's. Except that the staff in DC is even more surly.

That's the karma you get for shopping at Targé.

I'm amazed you could survive LA. Or suburban Conn.

Clay v. Ruben
 

Yeah, but when the final figures come out, will it be by 100 singles or 10 meelyun?

Dining Hall?
 

The one I went by yesterday, next to the McDonalds? Yes. Although I've never seen long lines at the Woodley one.

The burritos seem bigger to me than Baja. Quantity not quality, of course. So I'm assuming that the calories are even greater than baja's. Like Cosi, they don't make calorie figures available on their website. So maybe the lawsuit against them for making people fat will go somewhere.

The fact that they charge for chips is outrageous. They're not fries, folks.

funky fries fizzle
 

mmm salt and vinegar chips. They just started carrying Charles Chips down here and I bought a bag of salt and vinegar to savor. Can you believe that they don't even offer you vinegar for your fries down here south of the Mason-Dixon Line??? It's a fucking travesty to eat fries without vinegar.

funky fries fizzle
 

ahem, you forgot Coffee Crisp, the ONLY candy bar that touches these lips. I normally don't eat candy but when I get back around the old hometown I go over to duty-free and buy bags of Coffee Crisp (or better yet get a case at that cute little candy store up in NF).

Malls
 

Suburban CT is nothing like Ballston or whatever the name of that slice of hell is. It may not have been Ballston- but you must know the area I am speaking of.

LA was all about Santa Monica, Venice, WeHo, BH and Malibu and points south. Despite what you may read, if you avoid the Valley, West LA and Century City,. you can avoid that whole mall/strip mall thing.

Dining Hall?
 

A chipotle burrito is half the length but probably a little bigger in girth. The girth doesnt make up for the difference in length. I can barely finish a Baja burrito and am food comaed when I do. I can easily finish a Chipotle burrito and have room for dessert. Trust me on the size thing- I am an expert on burritos (not the Lorenzo Lamas burrito as euphemism but burrito=burritos).

WHat is with you and checking websites for calories? Are you motherjumpin huge? For some reason, hearing a guy count calories really turns me off. Though its totally annoying in a chick as well, when a guy does it, its sort of the equivalent of him highlighting his hair.

funky fries fizzle
 

Well, as noted in a later post responding to an earlier post which happened before I read ahead (do you follow me?), this red-blooded American must have vinegar on fries. I don't think you can find a fry stand in WNY that doesn't have vinegar. And, of course, you have to drink the vinegar drippings from the bottom of the fry-cone after the fries are gone. :yum:

Nu Bra
 

The dissonance between this disdain for middle america and your enthusiastic embrace of all things prole is one of the things that makes my head hurt when reading this board.

Here, you and I agree. I'm baffled at why they've not set up Jamba Juices out here. They'd be immensely popular.

Careful, or people will start to assume some cause-effect here.

What's in your burrito?
 

In another episode of DebtSlave's nonsequitor theatre ...

I was reading Bazaar this weekend, and it had an entire article of nutritionists reviewing the diets of 10 or so NY socialites/ fashionistas/ whatevers. So they had a list of what these chicks ate on an average day, total calories, and the nutritionist's commentary.

Total daily caloric intake ranged from 1000-2100 (one woman drank a LOT of wine), but most of them were in the 1300-1400 range. WTF? The lollypop lady syndrome is explained!!

However, I have to note, though, that most of those diets actually didn't look that bad. Only on eof them seemed to be on the "smokes and gummy bears" diet (Lizzie Grubman), and most of them weren't eating rabbit food. I was more surprised at the number of them who ate dinner at around 10 pm. (Which is when I usually eat dinner, so I don't know why I was so surprised.)

Dining Hall?
 

I actually find it far more annoying in women. Who gives a fuck how many calories are in a margarita--are you totally joyless, you freak? And the ones who coyly simper how "bad" they're being by ordering dessert--being mean to old people and puppies is "bad," not eating a goddamned slice of chocolate mousse cake! Jesus.

Guys don't count calories (at least not out loud, to others) generally unless they're trying to avoid getting actually overweight, which is sensible. Women who whine and obsess over them when they already look like Skeletors make me want to throw them in front of a speeding train.

Nu Bra
 

Welcome to Red America, sweetie. You've just described my hometown.

If you really want a Nu Bra (apropos of nothing, the six local ClearChannel radio stations all had their female DJs talking about them) (and by "local" I mean that the radio signals are beamed out of a tower over by Lake Jackson, not that the DJs are actually located anywhere within a 1000 miles of this place), I have a suggestion -- find a friend to drive you out there late one afternoon. Get drunk first -- not blindingly drunk, just a mild buzz kind of thing. On the drive out there, listen to a music selection which includes the Pretenders doing "Back to Ohio" and Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi." Bonus points for Iris Dement's "Our Town."

It will all seem so profound.

Slave's big chance
 

Sounds like Pamela might be ready for some rebound sex --

NEW YORK (AP) -- It looks like Pamela Anderson's romance with Kid Rock is on the rocks.

The actress and the rock star got engaged in the Las Vegas desert in April 2002, but never set a wedding date.

Anderson wasn't wearing her engagement ring last week during a promotional appearance for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals in Florida.

"The word that best describes me now is 'free,"' the 35-year-old told People magazine for its June 30 issue. "That's all I will say. I'm a mom, and that's where my life is at."

She also showed up at a June 10 party at the Playboy mansion without Rock, whose real name is Bob Ritchie. When Us Weekly magazine asked about future nuptials, she said: "Assume what you want about a wedding. ... I'm here with family and friends. That might be a hint."

Vanity?
 

Is the problem perceived male vanity, the public expression of male vanity, or both?

I prefer to know that a man reads nutritional information -- and has a clue about what he puts into his body. He doesn't have to pay strict attention to his diet, but he should know ballpark what he is consuming.

Personally, I have no problem with men who take care of themselves and their skin. If they wish to hit the salon, highlight their hair, get their nails done, etc., more power to them. It doesn't make them any less manly or attractive.

E/O

Dining Hall?
 

For comparison purposes, perhaps? You must be going to the skimpy chipotle, because the one I've been to makes a football-sized burrito. Wanted to see how it stacked up to baja. The baja site (convenient for finding store locations) had the nutrition info pretty handy.

Might as well know what you're getting into -- like a couple of tablespoons of salt -- lest one become motherjumpin huge. Why do you think America is so fat? Because people don't bother to learn that a slice of cheescake at cheescake factory has like 2000 calories. Of course, it's not so bad if you wash it down with a diet coke.

Uh, bend it like Beckham?
 

From Slate:

The Japanese magazine Shukan Jitsuwa has reported a trend of women styling their pubic hair as homage to the Mohawk Beckham wore during the last World Cup

Slave's big chance
 

I could deal with the inevitable Tommy comparisons, and I could even deal with the Hep C.

But the PETA thing is a total turnoff.

not7yS

Dining Hall?
 

And here I had such high hopes for you two. It appears that the flirtations from the DC board have not paid off. More's the pity.

Nu Bra
 

If "here" is DC, then They're Hee-rrre. Freshfields in Glover Park and somewhere in Dupont I think I've seen one. Which means there are probably about 5 other locations as well.

Vanity?
 

TESTIFY, SISTA

metro7yS

Dining Hall?
 

Oh, come on. She can't stand the fact that I have only three hairs on my head, am tubby, have four fingers, and am yellow.

Vanity?
 

Though still early on the West Coast, I remain surprised that Penske has not alredy responded with an appropriate expression of relief (or, more likely, strong agreement).

Dining Hall?
 

Paigow,

Is it bad for a guy to not eat bread and cake? I won't touch either because (a) I don't like either and (b) what's the use of empty calories? I also refuse to eat ice cream and usually avoid egg yolks, mayonaisse and fatty salad dressing despite having no history of heart disease in my family. My wife calls me a fag for eating like this, but the way I see it, being extra healthy with my diet allows me to drink twice as many drinks as the normal guy and inhale smoke and lots of red meat without fear. I've been on a sort of modified Atkins diet for the past decade.

Where do chicks get the notion that real men have to eat like shit? I don't like to work at my job and have a rotten attitude. If I get fat and my energy and my looks go, I got nothin' else. Fuck, its gets harder and harder every day to get by on packaging over substance - I can't fucking afford to get fat and ugly.

S(So if I threw away the bun on my cheeseburger you'd think me a pansy?)D

Nu Bra
 

Wow, you're right. Their site actually lists a half-dozen of them, apparently as a result of ties with Whole Foods. Kewl.

Nu Bra
 

Jamba Juice has the best wheatgrass shots.

Nu Bra
 

They put a FUCKING RED LOBSTER in River North in Chicago. I threw up in my mouth when I heard about it. I was on the bus going home from work when I heard a (clearly tourist/suburban) couple discussing their meal there. I decided to inform them that they are in one of the best eating cities in the world with THOUSANDS of restaurants, and they chose to eat psuedo processed fish at the Burger Chef of seafood. Bravo Naperville, way to go...

Dining Hall?
 

You can eat like shit and still not gain weight. Just don't eat as much. Do you think the euros count calories? And they smother their fries in mayo and suck down the red meat. They just eat less/smaller portions. Jesus, the pastries in Paris are so fucking bad for you...but thier SMALL pastries, not football sized Starbuck's scones...

Edited to say that I don't practice what I preach. I eat 3500-4000 calories per day. But I'm a runner and eat everything I see.

Vanity?
 

E/O,

Most of the anti-male vanity shit we hear is based on stereotypes. There's an idealized notion of men as rugged careless cowboys of a sort. A cat who has a manicure is hard to reconcile with the notion of real men being like Eastwood, Keith Richards, Al Bundy, Roger Clemens, etc...

Some fat wing-eating mismatched slovenly friends of mine refer to me as a "face guy" from time to time because I go to a gym and wear tailored clothes. These guys have always struck me as strange. They desperately want to get laid all the time, yet they let themselves go to shit, thus precluding their receipt of any female attention. Its like they're mad that women don't want to come into the bar and belly up next to them while they eat wings and slug Coors Light. I'd never hit a salon, don't get manicures and wouldn't know skin cream from Astroglide, but I do always make sure I'm not fat and that my clothes look good. Hell, for those of us who've never had a stitch of rap, that's the only way we can attract ladies. Lord knows I wasn't charming after my sixth bourbon, so I'd better at least look like I've got my act together. Jimmy Kimmel may get laid looking like a slug and espousing being a fat dumpy pretzel and Bud Light consumption machine, but in real life, that shit doesn't work... unless of course you're extremely wealthy, in which case you can look like Screech and still score major ass.

S( I just don't really understand "going to seed" at any age - either man or woman)D

Vanity?
 

Actually, Jimmy Kimmel's wife just filed for divorce, so perhaps she's departing for less-pudgy-and-ill-kempt pastures.

I exercise solely to preclude fatness and early death and do it only to the extent necessary to counteract my pleasurable intake of excellent desserts. Since it's clearly possible to both enjoy food and stay in pretty good shape, despite my natural couch-potato tendencies and lack of time, I have limited patience with the "eat like a pig then be surprised and pissy that I'm obese" thing.

And Another Thing
 

I fucking hate these dumbass friends who complain that they're fat or look like shit, yet still suck down beer instead of stepping up the plate and drinking a real goddamn drink. I go over to these guys' homes for parties and the fuckers offer me Bud Light. Fuck Bud Light. Its got no taste and you need fifty to catch a buzz, after which you'll get the worst hangover in history.

Maybe if these cats would start sucking down booze they wouldn't be so fucking fat and look like hell. If you're at a party, the reason you're drinking is to get juiced. Why would anyone drink beer to get juiced when they could drink booze, or, in the case of women, wine?

Beer if fine for tailgating, watching football and relaxing after work or having a casual drink where you don't want to catch a buzz. In all other scenarios, real people of age drink liquor.

If I attend another rehearsal party where all they serve is wine and beer, someone's going to lose an eye. If you're making me put on a goddamned tux and be part of the wedding, the least you could do is have the decency to observe the accepted social ettiquette of the last 200 years of proper American society and serve liquor... and good liquor at that.

S(and don't tell me it was too expensive to serve liquor - its far cheaper to serve liquor than wine and we all know it)D

Vanity?
 

What's a stich of rap?

Aside from not understanding that phrase, I agree with everything you've said on the self-grooming topic. Shows a lack of self-respect and, if there is an SO, respect for the SO, to not take care of your health and appearance.

Vanity?
 

I too find it funny when people act like their big ass and belly kinda crept up on them when they weren't looking. There is nothing like hearing someone curse skinny women and whine about how genetics screwed her/him with fat while she/he stuffs a fucking HoHo into her/his gaping maw. I can't do the exercise thing (okay, won't except when it involves "running" to the fridge for a beer) but I don't take in a lot of calories (I was never a calorie counter but did it recently for fun and found that if I took out the beer I would be below 1,000 calories a day and some days well below that) so I can maintain a good weight.

And Yet Another Thing
 

Memo to wedding planners:

Dewars White Label is NOT an acceptable sole choice of Scotch at a wedding.

Hell, I'd rather have a cash option than have you offer me something that tastes like OPT.

Besides, if you serve the Dewars, we'll most likely switch over to gin. And studies have shown that gin often results in mild-mannered party-goers turning into the Hulk.

not7yS

Vanity?
 

The whole "it's genetic" thing is such a fucking crutch it's absurd. Yep, that's right, and somehow only Americans have this gene, since were so homogenous and all...

Dining Hall?
 

No, silly, it's not so bad if you take a fat-binding pill before you eat AND wash the cake down with a diet coke. That's the real secret.

Vanity?
 

I have some male lawyer friends who seem oblivious to the fact that they are now what I would consider fat. Now that they are getting their shirts and suits custom made, they really have no idea how big they have gotten.

I am convinced that at least one of them is being force fed fatty foods by his heinous bitch of a wife who know she will lhave trouble keeping him if he is hot, again.

Vanity?
 

Holy crap, what do you eat? I admire (and could not even approach) your self-control. I am certain I take in way more than that, if only because I consider vegetables a scourge, tofu and other health foods disgusting, artificial sweeteners an abomination against God, and a day without the slow savoring of a good truffle a day wasted. Like I said, I have to exercise. Else I'm sure I'd be a monster.

Agree with ABBA that it's disrespectful to self and SO to Cheeto oneself into hideousness. I'll be eighty some day, but I want to look good for it and still be able to be as fun and active as possible.

P(elderly couple I saw creakily but gamely skiing together this season are my heroes)J