Dining Hall?
 

Add in the exercise clenching your butt-cheeks to combat the gas and you actually LOSE weight on this plan.

Vanity?
 

This brings up a question from last weekend:

Have you ever seen a fat old person?

I am talking late 70s at the youngest.

I searched my memories and I just cannot remember seeing a fat old person. A little pudgy (in my mind) yes. Fat, no.

Vanity?
 

My brother recently was bemoaning the presence of metrosexuals in his world recently. He complained that it used to be that you could tell who played on his team and who didn't just by looking. Nowadays, he actually has to look for other clues as to figure out which team the fashionable, well groomed guy is playing for.

Dining Hall?
 

Sweet. I've been missing that pill. Headed to Baja for one of those Dos Manos burritos right now. I'll bring my sippy-refill cup and load up the cleansing diet coke.

Nu Bra
 

I've seen the Red Lobster, and I still can't believe it. Waiting for a Sizzler to be next. The people who go there are the same people I saw lined up for a block outside the godawful Bubba Fucking Gump Shrimp restaurant in MAUI, of all places.

Vanity?
 

What cracks me up is that they call me an ogre for having no mercy on them for being fat. Or better yet I love the fatties who say "I pity people like you who deprive themselves of the joy of eating to satisfy some unrealistic attractiveness ideal." No, fatt-ass, its YOU, not me, who is unrealistic. You think cavemen ate cheesecake? You think we're genetically wired to be couch potatoes? You and your rotund friends may appear to be the norm when you waddle about the mall downing chili dogs and Orange Julius' with abandon, but you're not. We're not fucking bears - we don't need to gorge ourselves. take a note, Tubby - you're an alpha predator with no natural enemies - you don't need to eat like the next meal is a rumor.

Also, the more you eat, the uglier you get and the less you fuck. Food vs. sex is not even a contest in my book. If I have to get lipo to look good when I'm old, so be it, but intend to keep fucking until I drop. If you're fat, no one wants to fuck you, even if you're hitched. How much sex drive can you pssobily have when you can;t even see your own genitals anymore?

Vanity?
 

Yes. Marlon Brando, most recently seen in The Score at age 77. Presumably still alive, presumably still fat.

Vanity?
 

Being a vegetarian helps -- veggies are blissfully low in calories. I eat a lot of lettuce, fruit and vegetable soup. Sometimes when I work late I just forget to eat dinner. I think the trick is that I don't view food as anything beyond fuel -- in other words, I don't eat food for pleasure like a lot of plump people that I know do. That is not to say that there are not a few pleasure foods that I eat -- I just don't eat them very often because I figure that the pleasure would dissipate if the food was an every day item. Don't get me wrong, I like what I eat but I don't generally eat to satisfy anything except my body's need for fuel. I don't like sweets -- chocolate gives me headaches and sugar makes me "weird hyper" so I tend to stay away from sugary stuff. Beer is my weakness -- anywhere from 500 to 1,000 calories a day so it is probably a good thing that I don't get a lot from food.

If a person likes to eat I say go for it -- we all need to have our happy place. It is just that I don't get people who seem shocked to learn that you can't normally stay thin while you eat bags of chips washed down with soda while you sit on the couch all of the time. How can you not know that eating Big Macs three times a day is bad for you?? I smoke and drink and I know that the shit is "bad" for me but I am willing to take the consequences in exchange for the pleasure -- how can these people sue McDonalds with a straight face???

Vanity?
 

Three things:

1) Aside from being, in my opinion, less attractive, being overweight is unhealthy. Being "fit" and overweight is better than being a couch potato and overweight, but being overweight leads to inumerable health problems. For example, you do not have weak ankles. You are too fat, and your bones can't handle your weight.

2) I'm all for self esteem. People should feel good about themselves. But people should not convince themselves that it is okay to be obese. Be the best you can be. And the best you can be is your ideal weight.

3) I'm sick of hearing that "real women" have curves, or "real women" are not a size two. I have curves and am not a size two (anymore--dammit!!!), but I am no more real than the attorney in the office down the hall who is naturally thin and straight up and down. Fat people should not attempt to boost their self esteem by putting down those who look how they may want to look.

It is not the fat and the long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the lean.
 

Good thing that the FB isn't judgmental or anything.

Vanity?
 

Haven't spent much time amongst the swedes and norwegians and finns and germans of Minnesota, have you?

They're here. They're huge. In snowstorms, they never have a problem getting a ride from anyone, because they add so much traction to your vehicle. ("Mom, I'm going to the store." "OK, but take your aunt Yjordis - it's starting to snow.")

Vanity?
 

Simple rule of thumb.

If a guy asks him for his hair stylist or hair product, where he works out, where he tans, where he bought those prada loafers or where he can get Vegan pet food - he's straight.

Yet if he asks him for directions to the "Ram Rod" - bingo

not7yS

Vanity?
 

I am sympathetic to people who actually are genetically predisposed to it or have some other medical issue--you know, like when were little and there would be one or two kids per class who were naturally chubby--but 30% of Americans did not just suddenly develop a genetic problem in the last 10 years. Ditto I have sympathy for those with a struggling with a genuine eating disorder or other actual psychological issue beyond a simple lack of self-control--but again, most people just like to eat like pigs. (I definitely lack self control when it comes to say a good chocolate chip cookie--but then, I burn it walking to work.)

For some teen-memories-of-hanging-out-at-Dairy Queen reason I do still miss eating cholesterol-death-on-a-plate fast food occasionally--but I limit it to a once a year indulgence and the smallest portions (which used to be the biggest, before they Supersized everything).

Vanity?
 

Maybe maybe not. He could be hitting on you if he is asking where you got your stylist, hair product, work out, etc etc.

It is after all a good way to start a conversation while complimenting the other person's good taste.

It is much harder to tell unless you have a pretty well developed gaydar, and even then, it has gotten a lot harder regardless. It has always been difficult to tell lesbians.

Eye contact and the body language are the way you tell, not through how the person looks.

Vanity?
 

Good lord, man, such self-deception can't be healthy, physically or psychologically. Let it go.

Vanity?
 

My experience is, you really can't tell them anything, but that's just because they're women.

(Running away now.)

Vanity?
 

Now now, Slave is very sensitive.

Personally, I don't think Slave is gay. I think Slave is a woman.

And that's...ok. Cause he's good enough, and smart enough, and doggone it, people like him.

Vanity?
 

No shit. Women drive me fucking crazy.


Ok someone tell me this. Why is it that some women expect you to read their minds? Oh honey, of course it is ok if you do A, but they don't really want you to do A. Why don't they just say, honey, I would prefer you didn't do A right now.

And why do they ask you trick questions. Of course you look wonderful in that dress dear. What am I gonna say, no you look like a fucking dog. Bark for me baby.

And what is this, do you think the hairdresser cut my hair too short. You say yes, you get in trouble, you say no, she says he did so, what are you blind?

And the talking about the feelings. My GOD do we have to talk about the feelings all the time.

Men were so much easier. I miss men.

Vanity?
 

And, more importantly, the gay guy would already know how to get to the Ram Rod.

Duh.

Vanity?
 

Funny, but my favorite gay bar name was the White Swallow. That one is followed by a place that was called Sparky's - not because of the name itself. There was construction on the sidewalk in front of the place, so they put a sign on the door that said "Enter in Rear."

NTTAWWT

Vanity?
 

I have no problem with people who choose to live their lives as fat or as thin as they wish. I don't want anyone else to feel the need to conform to my standard -- because that is my standard for myself.

I am not gifted with naturally thin genes, so I work to stay in the body I want to have. It's not easy, but it is important to me. I don't care what anyone else does, including the OddMan, who eats all the donuts, cookies, and potato chips he wants.

Vanity?
 

Who are you? What did you do with our Leagl?

Huh. I always thought the eye twitch was a dead giveaway.

Confucius say
 

You are what you eat.

Confucius say
 

Amen brother.


Gatti said: Who are you? What did you do with our Leagl?

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It has always been difficult to tell lesbians.
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Huh. I always thought the eye twitch was a dead giveaway.


And I say:

Oh the women in my life are just driving me a tad nuts right now.

The eye twitch, you mean the one we get from all the stupid stuff people say to us?

Vanity?
 

Chicago's best named gay bar has to be the "Manhole". NTTAWWT, either.

New Admin
 

I needed some more help to manage things around here, so after some thought, decided Even Odds was the right person to be our newest Admin. I trust her, and I think you all trust her too. She has also done more for this site than anyone but the original three Admins, so I also felt she deserved the position.

I wanted to make you aware of this so (a) you know you can go to her if you need help and (b) that you know that she too is capable of seeing all the things that Slave, MR and I can see.

Thanks for stepping up to the plate E/O, I appreciate it.

L

Vanity?
 

Not to be a timmy, but Jimmy Kimmel has been going through a divorce for awhile. He's dating Sarah Silverman now, who is brrrrrrrrilliant on Crank Yankers.

Speaking of which, I was 3/5 on my American Juniors predictions. I don't think that's acceptable and I'll try to do better next week. I know y'all have come to expect more from the man who called Ruben as the winner at the outset of the Final 12.

str8 the greek.

Books and bars
 

There's a chain of gay bars here in Texas called JR's (I think that there's one in DC too). In Dallas, there's a sister bar called Sue Ellen's. My favorite two names of gay bars here in Houston are Ripcord (one of the leather bars), and the Brazos River Bottom (C&W bar). Meteor and Rich's are the gay bars I like the best. I am not as well versed on the lesbian bars around here.

I'm reading a book right now called Folly by Laurie King, and I'm really enjoying it. It's about a woman suffering from clinical depression that, after a series of tragedies and horrors, decides to try to rebuild her life and her sanity by moving to an island in the San Juans and literally rebuilding a burned out shell of a house that was left to her by a long-ago relative.

Vanity?
 

Harold Bloom. Took a class with him, dated one of his proteges, and I even had tea at his house. I think he's taking his "I am Falstaff" thing a little too far.

(For those of you who weren't English/Lit/Humanities majors, Harold Bloom is the self-proclaimed "foremost literary critic of [his] age," and has lately written IMPORTANT books about The Western Canon, the "J" author of the Bible, originality, and genius).

str8

New Admin
 

Hmm. Now you've made me wonder what you all can see. For example, can you see that today, my bra perfectly matches my panties?

Vanity?
 

I call bullshit. I have a recollection (which could easily be flawed) of you posting for advice about how to get the OM to eat less because he was being unhealthy or something.

L(I could be full of shit and it was someone else, but I like typing "I call bullshit" and it isn't an appropriate phrase for a brief)FM

Confucius say
 

Oh shit, you're an imprisoned in your basement woman's liver.

Vanity?
 

This is my West Hollywood lifestyle. WHATEVER.

http://www.cantataentertainment.com/...y-WHL-long.mp3

str8

New Admin
 

Only Slave.

(Name dropping as a form of) Vanity ?
 

Holy shit. You dated Camille Paglia?

Vanity?
 

I would agree with this if the fatties weren't contributing to the enormous increase in health care costs for everyone. Non-fatties are subsidizing them.

Vanity?
 

Yes, that was me. The post was about his return to smoking, coinciding with him nearly stroking out at a bar. I was extremely concerned about his blood pressure (since he nearly had a stroke!), and I mentioned that I thought he was 10 pounds overweight.

The OddMan is still smoking, eats whatever he wants with no comment from me or our family doctor, and drinks with the boys once a week.

Edited to add: he wasn't overweight at the time. Since his visits to the doctor and his spring training, he dropped about 15 pounds, though it did not affect his blood pressure. I never encouraged him to lose weight or change anything other than the smoking.

New Admin
 

I was only going to mention that I preferred yesterday's mismatch.

New Admin
 

I can see that. And may I say, you have lovely breasts. The others cannot see that however, this is due to my secret powers.

The others can see IP addresses.

Books and bars
 

Isn't Club Rainbow a lesbian bar? I've tried to get SO to go with me there, but em is too chicken.