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leagleaze 06-19-2003 01:23 PM

Books and bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Isn't Club Rainbow a lesbian bar? I've tried to get SO to go with me there, but em is too chicken.

What is em afraid of? I'm really curious about this. My colleagues at work decided to go to this bar and invited me. I said I don't really feel like going it is just too straight and I am not in the mood. I never heard the end of it and finally I just went with them. They couldn't seem to understand why it just might be uncomfortable for me sometimes to be in a completely straight environment. On the other hand, when I turned around and said ok, you want to come to a lesbian bar with me then? They all freaked out and said no way. With one or two exceptions.

I'm not afraid to go to a straight bar (though given some of the experiences I have had I'm surprised I'm not), it is just sometimes I just don't feel like it.

Atticus Grinch 06-19-2003 01:23 PM

Books and bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Isn't Club Rainbow a lesbian bar? I've tried to get SO to go with me there, but em is too chicken.
Maybe em is very sensitive about public disclosure of em's gender, and therefore refuses to leave em's apartment for any reason.

evenodds 06-19-2003 01:26 PM

Books and bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Isn't Club Rainbow a lesbian bar? I've tried to get SO to go with me there, but em is too chicken.
Austin has the Rainbow Cattle Company, but I am not sure if it is a bar or a club.

leagleaze 06-19-2003 01:29 PM

Books and bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Austin has the Rainbow Cattle Company, but I am not sure if it is a bar or a club.

We have the pink lizard. In philly it is Sisters. My favorite would have to be the Clit Club in NY.

Shape Shifter 06-19-2003 01:31 PM

Books and bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Maybe em is very sensitive about public disclosure of em's gender, and therefore refuses to leave em's apartment for any reason.
SHE SHE SHE SHE!

Happy?

ABBAKiss 06-19-2003 01:41 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
The others can see IP addresses.
What does this mean? You can pinpoint our firms? Exact location in the office?

paigowprincess 06-19-2003 01:42 PM

What's in your burrito?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
In another episode of DebtSlave's nonsequitor theatre ...

I was reading Bazaar this weekend, and it had an entire article of nutritionists reviewing the diets of 10 or so NY socialites/ fashionistas/ whatevers. So they had a list of what these chicks ate on an average day, total calories, and the nutritionist's commentary.

Total daily caloric intake ranged from 1000-2100 (one woman drank a LOT of wine), but most of them were in the 1300-1400 range. WTF? The lollypop lady syndrome is explained!!

However, I have to note, though, that most of those diets actually didn't look that bad. Only on eof them seemed to be on the "smokes and gummy bears" diet (Lizzie Grubman), and most of them weren't eating rabbit food. I was more surprised at the number of them who ate dinner at around 10 pm. (Which is when I usually eat dinner, so I don't know why I was so surprised.)

Now that sounds like an interesting article. Who was on the cover of Harpers or rather, what issue was it? Must pick it up.

As an aside, I seem to remember Lizzie Grubman saying she quit smoking before jail bc she wouldnt be allowd to smoke ther e(!). I guess she relapsed? How do tehse smoker chicks who substitute cigs for food keep the weight off after they quit?

And was the wine comsumer a fattie?

robustpuppy 06-19-2003 01:44 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
I was only going to mention that I preferred yesterday's mismatch.
I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your panties; I knew I wouldn't have time to stop home before work. I'd have asked first, but I didn't want to wake you.

evenodds 06-19-2003 01:44 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does this mean? You can pinpoint our firms? Exact location in the office?
From what I can tell, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

Nothing has changed on our end, and I promise not to abuse my power, or insist upon being called Her Royal Highness, Empress of the FB.

Even(though if you choose to voluntarily address me that way, we would be very pleased)Odds

sebastian_dangerfield 06-19-2003 01:45 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Yes, that was me. The post was about his return to smoking, coinciding with him nearly stroking out at a bar. I was extremely concerned about his blood pressure (since he nearly had a stroke!), and I mentioned that I thought he was 10 pounds overweight.

The OddMan is still smoking, eats whatever he wants with no comment from me or our family doctor, and drinks with the boys once a week.

Edited to add: he wasn't overweight at the time. Since his visits to the doctor and his spring training, he dropped about 15 pounds, though it did not affect his blood pressure. I never encouraged him to lose weight or change anything other than the smoking.
E/O,

I hate to pry, but how the hell does one at your ostensibly young age manage to almost have a stroke?

I often wonder whether it spossible at our age to have a stroke or a silent heart attack of some kind and not known it. I was once driving along on the road the morning after a night of partying and had to pull over because my heart started beating uncontrollably fast and heavy and I had to get out of the car and catch my breath. After I ate something, it seemed to subside. I've had a stress test since then and they said my heart is in fantastic shape, so that leads me to question what caused me to have that uncontrolled heart freakout.

I also wonder whether its possible to have the onset of cirrhosis at our age. My wife swears it takes a fifth or more a day for 20 years plus to get liver problems that could kill you, and even then its rare. However, I was reading about the Dead's first keyboard player, Pigpen, who died at 28 after drinking for a mere 10 years. His consumption was not that insane, and he died quickly -it gives me the willies.

Of course, the assjacks who say sushi and raw shellfish cause hepatitis scare me the most. If they're right, I'm dead.

S(Not that I plan to alter my lifestyle one bit - quitting drinking or eating sushi is simply not an option)D

Connect_the_Dots 06-19-2003 01:46 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
No shit. Women drive me fucking crazy.
Why is it that some women expect you to read their minds? .
And why do they ask you trick questions.

And the talking about the feelings. My GOD do we have to talk about the feelings all the time.
HA!!! WELCOME TO MY WORLD :D

paigowprincess 06-19-2003 01:47 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Is the problem perceived male vanity, the public expression of male vanity, or both?

I prefer to know that a man reads nutritional information -- and has a clue about what he puts into his body. He doesn't have to pay strict attention to his diet, but he should know ballpark what he is consuming.

Personally, I have no problem with men who take care of themselves and their skin. If they wish to hit the salon, highlight their hair, get their nails done, etc., more power to them. It doesn't make them any less manly or attractive.

E/O
My problem is that its girly behavior. NTTAWWT. I dont think Clint Eastwood would say "oh that burrtio mexicano with chicken has 988 calories, better not" and/or frost his hair. A real man follows his appetite, doesnt eat when he isnt hungry, skips the pork rinds and gets sufficeint exercise. Like all people should. I have come a long way to not have to count fucking calories so I dont need my man doing it. Vanity turns me off. You can look good and be healthy without being obsessive and or vain.

Highlighted hair is just a gay man's province. Again, NTTAWWT.

evenodds 06-19-2003 01:47 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your panties; I knew I wouldn't have time to stop home before work. I'd have asked first, but I didn't want to wake you.
Sweetheart, you know they were just going to sit unused in the drawer.

bilmore 06-19-2003 01:52 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does this mean? You can pinpoint our firms? Exact location in the office?
It means that, with a few short keystrokes, they can find the name of the firm or company that is registered as holding your particular address.

Whether you have a window office or a cube, no, I don't think they can see that, unless your firm or company uses an older version of NetWare.

Finally, as for the panties and bra issue, if you don't want them to know, don't sit so close to the screen. (That's just common sense.)

ABBAKiss 06-19-2003 01:54 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I hate to pry, but how the hell does one at your ostensibly young age manage to almost have a stroke?
Every so often you hear about the high school athletes who keel over walking into algebra. Mr. Kiss, who has been "bulgy-eyed" vegetarian for 6-7 years, is not overweight, and does not eat rich foods had GOUT at age 26. Doctor couldn't really explain why, but said to cut back on drinking on smoking (which is generally good advice, but I don't think has much to do with gout). Mr. Kiss also has had pluerisy and bells palsy (in high school--fully recovered) which is just freaking weird. I think some people just have weird shit happen sometimes.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 06-19-2003 01:54 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
However, I was reading about the Dead's first keyboard player, Pigpen, who died at 28 after drinking for a mere 10 years. His consumption was not that insane, and he died quickly -it gives me the willies.
Dude, Pigpen was sooooo much more that "the Dead's first keyboard player."

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-19-2003 01:57 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
A real man follows his appetite, doesnt eat when he isnt hungry, skips the pork rinds and gets sufficeint exercise.
Yes, and he clubs women over the head and then drags them by the hair back to his cave to rape them.

Too many people are guided by their appetite and hunger. Why do you think Americans are so fat? Isn't this objection directly inconsistent with your continuing complaints about mutherjumpin huge people?

The point's pretty simple, as Seinfeld and the low-fat yogurt demonstrated. If you think something's low cal, but it isn't, you really ought to find out. While I would never think a burrito is dietetic, knowing what's in it, calorie, fat, and sodium-wise is not girly, it's common sense.

zakoh02 06-19-2003 02:00 PM

Vanity? A Stroke? Death by Mercury?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Of course, the assjacks who say sushi and raw shellfish cause hepatitis scare me the most. If they're right, I'm dead.
It's the mercury content that scares me. There was some study that came out recently about the ridiculous amount of mercury in fish generally, but most especially in fishes like tuna, swordfish and shark (ick). I seriously eat sushi a couple of times per week (Abe in Newport is the best in OC and is very close to Nobu/Matsuhisa quality)...one of the big reasons (other than my indentured servitude) not to get pregnant--no way I could give up sushi.

I have never heard of getting hepatitis from sushi. I figure that I already got every vaccination known to man in the Army, so I am covered.

Zak

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-19-2003 02:00 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
E/O,

I was once driving along on the road the morning after a night of partying and had to pull over because my heart started beating uncontrollably fast and heavy and I had to get out of the car and catch my breath.
Well, get off the meth. But other than that, probably not a heart attack, and if you were checked out, move along. But it might have been tachycardia (sp?), which my sister once had (or something like it). Her solution was to stop drinking a case of diet coke a day. For others, they can implant electrical stimulators that stop this from happening.

paigowprincess 06-19-2003 02:00 PM

Dining Hall?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Paigow,

Is it bad for a guy to not eat bread and cake? I won't touch either because (a) I don't like either and (b) what's the use of empty calories? I also refuse to eat ice cream and usually avoid egg yolks, mayonaisse and fatty salad dressing despite having no history of heart disease in my family. My wife calls me a fag for eating like this, but the way I see it, being extra healthy with my diet allows me to drink twice as many drinks as the normal guy and inhale smoke and lots of red meat without fear. I've been on a sort of modified Atkins diet for the past decade.

Where do chicks get the notion that real men have to eat like shit? I don't like to work at my job and have a rotten attitude. If I get fat and my energy and my looks go, I got nothin' else. Fuck, its gets harder and harder every day to get by on packaging over substance - I can't fucking afford to get fat and ugly.

S(So if I threw away the bun on my cheeseburger you'd think me a pansy?)D
SD

First off, I like how you respond to each poster as if you are writing a work email.

Second, why am I not surprised that your wife would call you a "fag"?

Third, yes I would call you something (but not pansy) if you tossed the white flour bun off yoru burger. In terms of health, thats the equivalent of ordering a diet cokr with your cheesecake.

I never said guys shouldnt eat healthy. Jesus., have you read my posts? I jsut posted yesterday about healthy organic preservative free lunches. Like I would prefer a guy to eat cheeseburgers. As I just posted, I think a guy shoud eat healthy and get exercise and not obsess or overeat or eat empty calories as a rule. (Note that alcohol is not empty calories= they are buzz calories which is different). Also, do things in moderation. Have a piece of cake now and then, but dont tell me how many calories are in it. I dont eat it often so let me fucking enjoy. And same to you. If you arent counting calories, it sounds like you are just doing fine. Dont deprive yourself (ha ha), bc thats bad for the mental health.

And eat whole grain bread, in moderation, its good for you.

Bet you are wondering if I am a fattie myself.

evenodds 06-19-2003 02:03 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield I hate to pry, but how the hell does one at your ostensibly young age manage to almost have a stroke?

I often wonder whether it spossible at our age to have a stroke or a silent heart attack of some kind and not known it. I was once driving along on the road the morning after a night of partying and had to pull over because my heart started beating uncontrollably fast and heavy and I had to get out of the car and catch my breath. After I ate something, it seemed to subside. I've had a stress test since then and they said my heart is in fantastic shape, so that leads me to question what caused me to have that uncontrolled heart freakout.
Sebby, I wouldn't have mentioned the OM's problem if I had a problem talking about it. The doctor told him something kinda scary, confirmed by what other docs have told my friends, the damage you do to your heart with high blood pressure is cummulative. She put him on diuretics to get his high blood pressure under control. His blood pressure is at the low-end of high, but still high. With any high blood pressure, it is important to manage it early.

As for how such a thing happens . . . it just does. She told him that the cause of him nearly losing consciousness and losing feeling in his arms and legs was inexplicable. (She's an excellent doctor, a real scholar, so her inexplicable doesn't mean get out of here, your hmo won't pay.)

Like your experience, his episode passed, with no damage, and he is fine.

For those late to the party: the OM is in his early 30s, he's a vegetarian and a cyclist. He smokes, he drinks, and he eats fatty foods. None of that caused his episode. It just happened.

Even(and scared the hell out of me)Odds

greatwhitenorthchick 06-19-2003 02:05 PM

Vanity? A Stroke?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
E/O,

I hate to pry, but how the hell does one at your ostensibly young age manage to almost have a stroke?
I know three women who have had strokes. Two died. One was leading a very unhealthy life (she was 19 when she died). One was leading an exemplary life (no booze, no smoking etc) - she was 22 when she died. The one that lived had the occasional smoke, drank moderately, smoked a joint maybe once a month and ate a good diet. She was 30 when she had the stroke. The only thing that all three had in common was that they were on the pill, although it was never officially linked to the stroke in any case, I think. Could have just been pure coincidence, I don't know. But it's weird.

zakoh02 06-19-2003 02:10 PM

Vanity? A Stroke? Death by Birth Control?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
The only thing that all three had in common was that they were on the pill, although it was never officially linked to the stroke in any case, I think. Could have just been pure coincidence, I don't know. But it's weird.
Just an FYI, but GWNC, the pill (especially some not sold in the US, but sold in Canada, Aussieland and the UK, like Diane/Dianette) have definitely been linked to strokes because of blood clots. Plus, those pills are often given to women to "regulate" their periods and the reason they aren't having regular periods is because they have an underlying metabolic problem (ovarian, adrenal, etc.)

OK, this is getting way too medical...back to contracts...

Zak

leagleaze 06-19-2003 02:12 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does this mean? You can pinpoint our firms? Exact location in the office?
It means I can see everything EVERYTHING MWAHAHAHA. I can even look under your dress you sexy babe you ;)

Ok, seriously, what does it mean.

It means I, Slave, Mr and now E/O can see the numbers that identify your provider.

What does this mean? It means, depending on how it is listed, I can figure out what firm you work for. In most cases your IP address is just a bunch of numbers, so it would take me running those numbers through a program to identify your provider/firm.

In some cases the IP is identified by name instead of number, and that tells me right off the bat what firm you work for, or at least what firm you are connecting from, or what internet provider you use.

We don't use the information however to identify what firm you work for, so we don't run IP numbers through any software to figure that out. We only use the information to identify what sock belongs to what poster or what poster belongs to what post, in case of trouble. Say someone is abusing anon, or someone has made a sock and is violating the rules, or someone is simply violating the rules. I can ban someone if I need to, or choose to moderate his posts or what have you, through the use of the IP address (assuming that address doesn't change, as a lot of them do.)

To be very clear, we cannot, from the information we have, figure out who you are.

Is it conceivable to figure out who you are with a combination of the information we have and information from your firm? Yes, it is. But it would require cooperation between this site and the firm or provider in question. And it would require that your firm be able to identify you through your IP address, which may or may not be easily done. To get that information from your firm would require a court order is my guess. Similarly, as you will note under our privacy policy there are very specific things that will trigger our providing such information, and generally those amount to a court order or cooperating with legal authorities, i.e. FBI, police, etc etc.

MisterEbola 06-19-2003 02:15 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
It means that, with a few short keystrokes, they can find the name of the firm or company that is registered as holding your particular address.

Whether you have a window office or a cube, no, I don't think they can see that, unless your firm or company uses an older version of NetWare.

Correct. Most firms have set up firewalls to ensure that the only IP address that gets transmitted is the firm's address.

So, if two of you from the same firm are posting on the same boards and the other guy is f**king around to the point where em gets tossed from the board via the blocking of the IP address, you wind up getting banned as well.

paigowprincess 06-19-2003 02:16 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Simple rule of thumb.

If a guy asks him for his hair stylist or hair product, where he works out, where he tans, where he bought those prada loafers or where he can get Vegan pet food - he's straight.

Yet if he asks him for directions to the "Ram Rod" - bingo

not7yS
Who tans anymore? Besides my gay neighbor that is.

You know, between the PETA Pam Anderson turn off comment and posts like these, it is a wonder we ever banged.

MisterEbola 06-19-2003 02:17 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
It means I can see everything EVERYTHING MWAHAHAHA. I can even look under your dress you sexy babe you ;)

Ok, seriously, what does it mean.

It means I, Slave, Mr and now E/O can see the numbers that identify your provider.

What does this mean? It means, depending on how it is listed, I can figure out what firm you work for. In most cases your IP address is just a bunch of numbers, so it would take me running those numbers through a program to identify your provider/firm.

Don't make it sound that complicated. There are any number of websites that will tell you the location of a particular IP address.

leagleaze 06-19-2003 02:18 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
From what I can tell, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

Nothing has changed on our end, and I promise not to abuse my power, or insist upon being called Her Royal Highness, Empress of the FB.

Even(though if you choose to voluntarily address me that way, we would be very pleased)Odds
Ok, but can I still call you my love muffin? Or does it now have to be Her Royal Highness, Empress Love Muffin?

ThrashersFan 06-19-2003 02:18 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
What does this mean? It means, depending on how it is listed, I can figure out what firm you work for. In most cases your IP address is just a bunch of numbers, so it would take me running those numbers through a program to identify your provider/firm.

In some cases the IP is identified by name instead of number, and that tells me right off the bat what firm you work for, or at least what firm you are connecting from, or what internet provider you use.

Can this "gift" of yours in any way allow you to back up my assertion that I am not a Paigow tribute sock?

leagleaze 06-19-2003 02:18 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MisterEbola
Don't make it sound that complicated. There are any number of websites that will tell you the location of a particular IP address.
Didn't realize that sounded complicated.

leagleaze 06-19-2003 02:19 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Can this "gift" of yours in any way can allow you to back up my assertion that I am not a Paigow tribute sock?
Sure, do you want me to do that?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-19-2003 02:21 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze


Is it conceivable to figure out who you are with a combination of the information we have and information from your firm? Yes, it is. But it would require cooperation between this site and the firm or provider in question.
Or knowing firm & other identifying information posted here.

But we trust you :hug:

ThrashersFan 06-19-2003 02:23 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Sure, do you want me to do that?

Nah, just wondering. I guess I should have stated "confirm or deny" to keep Paigow guessing. I like to think that the chance that I might be a tribute sock may be a pick-me-up for Paigow some days. ;)

MisterEbola 06-19-2003 02:28 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Who tans anymore? Besides my gay neighbor that is.

The wifey and I went to a resort in Jamaica two years ago.

There were plenty of folks who were taking advantage of the opportunity for "all-inclusive" tans.

paigowprincess 06-19-2003 02:28 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yes, and he clubs women over the head and then drags them by the hair back to his cave to rape them.

Too many people are guided by their appetite and hunger. Why do you think Americans are so fat? Isn't this objection directly inconsistent with your continuing complaints about mutherjumpin huge people?

The point's pretty simple, as Seinfeld and the low-fat yogurt demonstrated. If you think something's low cal, but it isn't, you really ought to find out. While I would never think a burrito is dietetic, knowing what's in it, calorie, fat, and sodium-wise is not girly, it's common sense.
People are fat bc they live to eat and dont eat to live. They do not listen to their bodies. ANd they eat processed food. PROCESSED food. Have you not read a single post of mine ever?

Frozen yogurt is junk food. Empty calories. Its extra shit, just not as bad as ice cream. And dont telll me it is good bc it has calcium. It has sugar and gum and gelatin and shit in it. And who knows what else. And you aint eating it bc your hungry but bc you want sweets. Its nothing to do with food except it goes in your mouth and through the digestive system.

notcasesensitive 06-19-2003 02:31 PM

Paradise Hotel
 
realityblurred says --

Want to join the cast of Paradise Hotel? An application and rules on FOX's site allow viewers to apply to be part of the action. Host Amanda Byram says, "The beauty of [the selection process] is the person who gets voted on will actually know more about ... the backbiting and the bitchy gossip than the guests themselves, which is very, ha-ha, evil." The rules: you have to be 21, single, childless, and a US resident -- and, of course, be willing to be skanky on national TV. Speaking of, astute viewers of the premiere may have recognized Toni, who appeared earlier on FOX's Love Cruise.

ncs says --

Ah yes, I remember Toni. Hated her on Love Cruise. How sad is my life?

(answer -- not that sad right now, as I'm rushing to get out of town for a long weekend, but typically, pretty sad)

leagleaze 06-19-2003 02:31 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Or knowing firm & other identifying information posted here.

But we trust you :hug:
That's true, if you post as anon, I can tell it is you all the same (from your IP address) and therefore match the anon to the sock.

And yeah, you just have to trust me. But I figure if you didn't trust me at least a little, you wouldn't have been following me as I wandered around the Internet now would you ;)

By the by, it does log pretty much all the admin type stuff we do, including looking up IP addresses. So if one of the admins should get up to mischief, the other's would be able to tell right quick.

MisterEbola 06-19-2003 02:32 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Didn't realize that sounded complicated.
Not complicated in the sense of difficult to read - complicated in the sense that you don't need some uber-secret, proprietary program to find out an IP address.

evenodds 06-19-2003 02:33 PM

New Admin
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
So if one of the admins should get up to mischief, the other's would be able to tell right quick.
Oh, no! Foiled again!

ThrashersFan 06-19-2003 02:34 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
People are fat bc they live to eat and dont eat to live. They do not listen to their bodies. ANd they eat processed food. PROCESSED food. Have you not read a single post of mine ever?

Frozen yogurt is junk food. Empty calories. Its extra shit, just not as bad as ice cream. And dont telll me it is good bc it has calcium. It has sugar and gum and gelatin and shit in it. And who knows what else. And you aint eating it bc your hungry but bc you want sweets. Its nothing to do with food except it goes in your mouth and through the digestive system.
Couldn't agree more (shit, maybe I am a tribute sock). This is what I was trying to say earlier when I noted that most fatties that I know see food/eating as pure pleasure while I view it just a necessary part of life -- I eat for the fuel my body needs. If you focus on food for pleasure I believe it will come back to bite your big fat ass. This is not to say that you cannot enjoy the food you eat, just make sure that the enjoyment is secondary to the physiological reason for eating.

A doctor told me once that a person can live on 12 beers and two vitamins a day and get all of the necessary stuff. I'll let ya'll know if it works. :D


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