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bilmore 06-20-2003 12:48 AM

Ketchup, or, I hate you all
 
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Maybe we should include something substantive on this site to provide some cover.
In hindsight, the Lawtalkers name might have been shortsighted. When the IT'ers saw "Findlaw" or "Infirmation" amongst my roamings, it was easily explainable. "Lawtalkers" sounds like . . . well, this. Perhaps this place needs a new name for cover, like "A Multi-Jurisdictional Survey of Post-Enron Ditch Law and Its Effects Upon Wetlands Degradation (With Special Emphasis on Lawson Spatial Analysis of Funding Patterns and Their Resultant Revenue-flow Vector Assignments)".

I think it's catchy.

leagleaze 06-20-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
In hindsight, the Lawtalkers name might have been shortsighted. When the IT'ers saw "Findlaw" or "Infirmation" amongst my roamings, it was easily explainable. "Lawtalkers" sounds like . . . well, this. Perhaps this place needs a new name for cover, like "A Multi-Jurisdictional Survey of Post-Enron Ditch Law and Its Effects Upon Wetlands Degradation (With Special Emphasis on Lawson Spatial Analysis of Funding Patterns and Their Resultant Revenue-flow Vector Assignments)".

I think it's catchy.
Right, well, long name aside, I can certainly register another domain name that points to this one. If you seriously think it would be a help.


As it happens though, Alex's problem happened right when the site opened, and as I recall, it was in the middle of a general crackdown for his firm. I am unaware of anyone else running into this problem after repeated visits to the site.

bridge of love 06-20-2003 08:12 AM

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How did they test this? And where do I sign to be a testee (so to speak)?
preliminary testing is done, but if you provide a street address, we can have a vial of the improved semen sent to you along with the survey form.

ThrashersFan 06-20-2003 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Of course excessive drinking can have effects on one's looks as well.

As well as on the looks of those around you. This is why everyone should keep a sober friend around them at all times to stop their drunken-ass from going home with someone ugly enough to scare a dog off of a meat-wagon.

Edited for this link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89938,00.html

spree: Thanks to the growing number of plus-size-friendly vacation packages, heavier-set folks are having their day in the sun.

"Recent reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (search) say nearly 65 percent of Americans are overweight — 31 percent are considered obese (search). With numbers like that, it seemed imminent that a plus-size travel market would pop onto the scene — and it has."

We skinnies are in the minority and maybe shoudn't joke so much or we might get whipped with a pepperoni stick or something.



:D

purse junkie 06-20-2003 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Maybe this is just a rephrase of what you are saying, but - people SHOULD eat for satisfaction and pleasure, but need to re-train themselves so that they derive that pleasure from healthy foods instead of from empty foods.
One cannot derive genuine pleasure from carob, frozen yogurt, tofurkey, or broccoli. They are all crappy wishful-thinking substitutes eaten solely to fend off an early death, and the failure of the health-food crowd to acknowledge this honestly is the reason why so many people turn to Ding-dongs and Bob's Fatass Frozen Partially Hydrogenated Myocardial Infarction Happy Meal in frustration. Sometimes life is mean and you have to eat salads instead of pate so you don't croak.

Just spit out the truth and tell people that, like taxes, it's just something you have to suck up, and that you'll try to make it palatable as possible. That, people can respect.

P(pork chops are still healthy though because they are 'the other white meat')J

ThrashersFan 06-20-2003 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
One cannot derive genuine pleasure from carob, frozen yogurt, tofurkey, or broccoli. They are all crappy wishful-thinking substitutes eaten solely to fend off an early death, and the failure of the health-food crowd to acknowledge this honestly is the reason why so many people turn to Ding-dongs and Bob's Fatass Frozen Partially Hydrogenated Myocardial Infarction Happy Meal in frustration. Sometimes life is mean and you have to eat salads instead of pate so you don't croak.

Just spit out the truth and tell people that, like taxes, it's just something you have to suck up, and that you'll try to make it palatable as possible. That, people can respect.

P(pork chops are still healthy though because they are 'the other white meat')J
I like broccoli. And cauliflower. I like to sit and eat them raw with a beer -- better than chips in my view. Maybe I just have fucked-up taste buds or something. Tofu shall never pass over these lips -- it looks funny and jiggles but it sure as hell ain't Jell-O.

evenodds 06-20-2003 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
One cannot derive genuine pleasure from carob, frozen yogurt, tofurkey, or broccoli. They are all crappy wishful-thinking substitutes eaten solely to fend off an early death, and the failure of the health-food crowd to acknowledge this honestly is the reason why so many people turn to Ding-dongs and Bob's Fatass Frozen Partially Hydrogenated Myocardial Infarction Happy Meal in frustration. Sometimes life is mean and you have to eat salads instead of pate so you don't croak.
Maybe I have become a pod person, but . . .

Since I changed my eating regime last January, if I have one of the OM's donuts or a handful of onion rings, I feel like crap. I enjoy it at the time, but after, ick.

I agree that a big juicy hamburger cooked on a grill is far superior to my boca all-american burger. But I prefer how my body feels after my soy burger.

Even(and I love fried tofu)Odds

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Maybe this is just a rephrase of what you are saying, but - people SHOULD eat for satisfaction and pleasure, but need to re-train themselves so that they derive that pleasure from healthy foods instead of from empty foods.
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Originally posted by purse junkie
One cannot derive genuine pleasure from carob, frozen yogurt, tofurkey, or broccoli. They are all crappy wishful-thinking substitutes eaten solely to fend off an early death, and the failure of the health-food crowd to acknowledge this honestly is the reason why so many people turn to Ding-dongs and Bob's Fatass Frozen Partially Hydrogenated Myocardial Infarction Happy Meal in frustration. Sometimes life is mean and you have to eat salads instead of pate so you don't croak.

Just spit out the truth and tell people that, like taxes, it's just something you have to suck up, and that you'll try to make it palatable as possible. That, people can respect.
Sing is sister. I was going to say basically the same thing myself, but was behind and was too lazy to go back and look for the post.

People shouldn't try to retrain themselves to think tofu or rabbit food is just as tasty as lovely fatty meat and cheese and sticky gooey sugars. That is clearly an idiotic idea, doomed to miserable failure.

People should retrain themselves to derive pleasure from quality not quantity. Very un-American, I know, but there it is.

BR(had a LOVELY foie gras the other night, weighed no more than 2 oz and once the fat hit my bloodstream I was full, but anybody who implies that any sentient human could be "retrained" to like health food just as well deserves to have their tongue cut out)C

purse junkie 06-20-2003 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Maybe I have become a pod person, but . . .

Since I changed my eating regime last January, if I have one of the OM's donuts or a handful of onion rings, I feel like crap. I enjoy it at the time, but after, ick.

I agree that a big juicy hamburger cooked on a grill is far superior to my boca all-american burger. But I prefer how my body feels after my soy burger.

Even(and I love fried tofu)Odds
Having forced my body off my preferred Neanderthal diet to smaller portions of healthier foods and occasional treats, I do feel a bit gross too honestly after my annual KFC meal. But nothing makes me sicker to my stomach than eating fresh fruits and vegetables, and nothing soothes it when it's upset like a nice piece of sirloin or pizza.

P(fine, I'm a caveman, I'm at peace with it)J

bilmore 06-20-2003 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
P(pork chops are still healthy though because they are 'the other white meat')J
Silly Junkie. Lutefisk is "the other white meat".

evenodds 06-20-2003 10:45 AM

Friday Movies
 
The Hulk opens this weekend to mostly tepid reviews. We're still going to see it, but I have recalibrated my expectations.

Next weekend is a movie I have been waiting to see: 28 Days Later. The concept sounds like every scifi book the OddMan has read in the past year (killer virus knocks out most of humanity), and EW gave it a great review.

What are you looking forward to seeing?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-20-2003 10:46 AM

More Posts About Kayaking and Food
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
You haven't experienced fun until you've hooked a five-foot tarpon while in a ten-foot kayak in the Keys, and been pulled faster than you can paddle. That almost beats eightballs for pure heart-pumping pleasure.

Almost.
I've never seen ANYONE doing that when I fish for tarpon in Islamorada. How long does it take to land the thing (or, can you actually land it?)?

MisterEbola 06-20-2003 10:47 AM

Friday Movies
 
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Originally posted by evenodds
The Hulk opens this weekend to mostly tepid reviews. We're still going to see it, but I have recalibrated my expectations.

Next weekend is a movie I have been waiting to see: 28 Days Later. The concept sounds like every scifi book the OddMan has read in the past year (killer virus knocks out most of humanity), and EW gave it a great review.

What are you looking forward to seeing?
I just want the movie to open and go away. I'm sick of annoying pop-up windows with screaming "hulk" noises when I really could do without such detritus.

bilmore 06-20-2003 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
anybody who implies that any sentient human could be "retrained" to like health food just as well deserves to have their tongue cut out
There's a world of difference between "health food" and healthy food. "Tofu" is the sound you make spitting your mouth clean after hugging the porcelain god. "Soy" is what you yell when calling pigs. But, whole grains taste better than processed, a few slices of lean grilled meat are just as good as, if not better than, a whole porterhouse, fresh fruit is a wonderful breakfast, and that candybar that sounds soooo good as you type at 2am is just gonna make you crash an hour later.

I'm not saying you should go to bed with a tape playing under your pillow saying "crap is goooood!" over and over - just that you spent a long time training yourself (or being trained) to like certain things, and it ain't hereditory or ingrained or instinctual, and it can be adjusted.

bilmore 06-20-2003 11:06 AM

More Posts About Kayaking and Food
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I've never seen ANYONE doing that when I fish for tarpon in Islamorada. How long does it take to land the thing (or, can you actually land it?)?
Never did (line finally broke after about forty-five minutes) and probably would have chickened out had I actually gotten it up to the boat. The thing was nearly as long as me, and there's only one hatch, and that thing WASN'T going to get stuffed down amongst my feet while I paddled back, and hanging it over the side wasn't an option (think "other toothy things down there"). I thought I was going to get some fun two-footers. Surprise. (It was out of the same bay/inlet as that marina that has all of the huge tarpon gathered around their dock for tourist feedings. I think that's on Isla.)

sebastian_dangerfield 06-20-2003 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
As well as on the looks of those around you. This is why everyone should keep a sober friend around them at all times to stop their drunken-ass from going home with someone ugly enough to scare a dog off of a meat-wagon.

Edited for this link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,89938,00.html

spree: Thanks to the growing number of plus-size-friendly vacation packages, heavier-set folks are having their day in the sun.

"Recent reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (search) say nearly 65 percent of Americans are overweight — 31 percent are considered obese (search). With numbers like that, it seemed imminent that a plus-size travel market would pop onto the scene — and it has."

We skinnies are in the minority and maybe shoudn't joke so much or we might get whipped with a pepperoni stick or something.



:D
I have found that excessive drinking keeps me svelt. The more you drink before dinner, the less you're inclined to eat, if you make it from the bar to the table at all. In that regard, booze also saves you money.

ThrashersFan 06-20-2003 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have found that excessive drinking keeps me svelt. The more you drink before dinner, the less you're inclined to eat, if you make it from the bar to the table at all. In that regard, booze also saves you money.
Hubby's friends are always commenting that I must be a cheap date because salads are not that expensive. Hubby agrees but then adds that my bar-tab could choke a horse. He eats a lot (meat included) but doesn't drink much and I drink a lot but don't eat much -- like peas and carrots, baby.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-20-2003 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Never did (line finally broke after about forty-five minutes) and probably would have chickened out had I actually gotten it up to the boat. The thing was nearly as long as me, and there's only one hatch, and that thing WASN'T going to get stuffed down amongst my feet while I paddled back, and hanging it over the side wasn't an option (think "other toothy things down there"). I thought I was going to get some fun two-footers. Surprise. (It was out of the same bay/inlet as that marina that has all of the huge tarpon gathered around their dock for tourist feedings. I think that's on Isla.)
Yep, that marina is on Isla. I still have yet to catch one over 100 lbs...I can't even imagine one the size you're describing...

And yeah, you would have had some "Old Man and the Sea" problems had you lashed it to the side.

Replaced_Texan 06-20-2003 11:20 AM

Book poll
 
I do not have a reserved copy of Harry Potter, and I am assuming that I'll be able to get one somewhere at some point this weekend, though I'm beginning to hear that some chain bookstores are expecting hordes.

Is anyone else planning on reading the book this weekend? Did you reserve a copy? Is Amazon shipping it to you?

purse junkie 06-20-2003 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by bilmore
and that candybar that sounds soooo good as you type at 2am is just gonna make you crash an hour later
Right. Ben & Jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream or a couple of high-quality truffles work much better.

P(if you're stuck typing at 2am, hell no you shouldn't settle for crap!)J

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have found that excessive drinking keeps me svelt. ... In that regard, booze also saves you money.
Oh, if this were true. If anyone is looking for me, I will be bellied up to the bar, dripping in diamonds, faking orgasms, and ripping on fat people.

ThrashersFan 06-20-2003 11:36 AM

Cocktails
 
Judging by the 7-day forecast, the South is finally due to rise out of our recent "when did I move to Seattle?" weather pattern. In honor of that, here is an article billed as having "4 cool cocktail recipes."

http://houseandhome.msn.com/Food/Cla...ePunches0.aspx


As everyone knows, I only partaketh of the hops and barley beverage but I thought that others may want something else this weekend. No doubt I would prepare these for any one of you (okay, with a few exceptions) if ya'll wanted to drop by and float in the pool this weekend. Cheers.

:cheers:

Pretty Little Flower 06-20-2003 11:52 AM

Cocktails
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Judging by the 7-day forecast, the South is finally due to rise out of our recent "when did I move to Seattle?" weather pattern. In honor of that, here is an article billed as having "4 cool cocktail recipes."

* * *

No doubt I would prepare these for any one of you (okay, with a few exceptions) if ya'll wanted to drop by and float in the pool this weekend. Cheers.
Champagne Peach Punch? If any of you ever see me drinking, ordering, or associating with someone who is drinking, ordering or has ever drank or ordered a Champagne Peach Punch, you can slap me right here. I can think of no place, outside of perhaps a sorority rush event, where it is even legal to consume this drink. I'm O.K. with martinis, but those others look just awful. People, let me spell it out for you:

P-I-S-C-O S-O-U-R

Is that so hard? Whip up a tasty and refreshing Pisco Sour and I'll happily stop by the pool with a twelve pack of the domestic beer of your choosing and a platter of crudites. In fact, I'm looking forward to it.

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
But, whole grains taste better than processed, a few slices of lean grilled meat are just as good as, if not better than, a whole porterhouse, fresh fruit is a wonderful breakfast, and that candybar that sounds soooo good as you type at 2am is just gonna make you crash an hour later.
Riiight. Be sure the tape player is on loop all night. Good luck with that.

BR(my mom tried putting our peanut butter & jelly sandwiches on wheat instead of Wonder Bread once. My sister actually called 911 to report child abuse. Of course, she did that when told to clean her room, too)C

Shape Shifter 06-20-2003 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by bridge of love
preliminary testing is done, but if you provide a street address, we can have a vial of the improved semen sent to you along with the survey form.
That would be testER, Mr. Dumas. Seriously, though, I can't wait to see the ads for this new and exciting product. I envision something like the "Got Milk?" ads.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-20-2003 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Riiight. Be sure the tape player is on loop all night. Good luck with that.

My gastronomic rapacity knows no satiety.

evenodds 06-20-2003 12:20 PM

Fashion and Politics
 
Chinese Police Detain Man Over T-Shirt

BEIJING - Police in eastern China briefly detained a foreign man after local residents complained they were offended by his T-shirt listing staring, overcharging and other common gripes of foreigners in China, a newspaper reported Friday.

Police were called following an altercation between the man and diners in a restaurant in the eastern city of Nanjing, the Beijing Today weekly reported. The man, whose name and nationality weren't given, was taken to a precinct station and allowed to leave after about an hour after promising not to wear the shirt again, it said.

The paper said the back of the man's T-shirt was printed in Chinese with a list entitled "Ten Warnings for Chinese," that included "don't stare at foreigners," and "charge foreigners the same prices as Chinese," the paper said. It said the man told police he bought the t-shirt from a vendor in China.

full text: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...t_shirt_tussle

bilmore 06-20-2003 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Good luck with that.
Wrong tense. After years of fast loss, fast re-gain, on many different theories, this outlook is giving me sustained slow loss without deprivation. 21 pounds as of this morning, over approx. four months.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-20-2003 12:23 PM

Fashion and Politics
 
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Originally posted by evenodds
Chinese Police Detain Man Over T-Shirt

BEIJING - Police in eastern China briefly detained a foreign man after local residents complained they were offended by his T-shirt listing staring, overcharging and other common gripes of foreigners in China, a newspaper reported Friday.

Yeah, well, you could get kicked out of school for wearing a "Barbie is a Lesbian" t-shirt: CNN Article

str8outavannuys 06-20-2003 12:29 PM

Friday Movies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
The Hulk opens this weekend to mostly tepid reviews. We're still going to see it, but I have recalibrated my expectations.

Next weekend is a movie I have been waiting to see: 28 Days Later. The concept sounds like every scifi book the OddMan has read in the past year (killer virus knocks out most of humanity), and EW gave it a great review.

What are you looking forward to seeing?
I'm looking forward to seeing two documentaries:

Spellbound
Gigantic, a tale of two Johns

As for the real movie world, I'm looking forward to seeing Nemo, Legally Blonde 2, and your 2003 Best Picture, Seabiscuit.

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Wrong tense. After years of fast loss, fast re-gain, on many different theories, this outlook is giving me sustained slow loss without deprivation. 21 pounds as of this morning, over approx. four months.
And it's how I lost 5 and put on 10.

Only thing that ever worked for me was the "basic civilization" diet, which consisted of eating nothing unless I was sitting at a table with non-disposable plates, metal utensils and glasswear that breaks if dropped. (Otherwise known as the "no snacking between meals" diet.) Close runner ups were the "eat something, anything, before 9 am" diet and the "no take out" diet.

Edited to say that I recognize the common theme we both have: it has to be a fundamental lifestyle choice, not a "don't eat that it's bad" thing, to work.

MisterEbola 06-20-2003 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
And it's how I lost 5 and put on 10.

Only thing that ever worked for me was the "basic civilization" diet, which consisted of eating nothing unless I was sitting at a table with non-disposable plates, metal utensils and glasswear that breaks if dropped. (Otherwise known as the "no snacking between meals" diet.) Close runner ups were the "eat something, anything, before 9 am" diet and the "no take out" diet.

One of our paralegals lives nearby the Krispy Kreme factory. She brought in three dozen this morning.

I ate two - and loved it.

Anne Elk 06-20-2003 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by MisterEbola
One of our paralegals lives nearby the Krispy Kreme factory. She brought in three dozen this morning.

I ate two - and loved it.
They were giving them away this morning on the streets of Boston to celebrate the opening of the new store in Medford.

I might have to move so I can work Wellington into my morning commute.

bilmore 06-20-2003 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Only thing that ever worked for me was the "basic civilization" diet, which consisted of eating nothing unless I was sitting at a table with non-disposable plates, metal utensils and glasswear that breaks if dropped.
When I get home tonight, this being a typical sunny, hot, schools-out day, there will be at least ten kids in my house or on my deck or in my yard, and probably seven of them will eat dinner there. Were I to follow that diet, I would rapidly lose weight, culminating in my thin, svelte death by starvation.

(Sitting? Glassware? Civilized? All equally attainable.)

tmdiva 06-20-2003 01:02 PM

Harry Potter
 
I pre-ordered from Amazon and got an e-mail stating that it shipped this morning.

tm

former gov't 06-20-2003 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I say the same thing in defense of smokers and drinkers. Why the fuck are people so pissed about our "bad" habits when statistically we are doomed to take a dirt nap before we can even dream of collecting social security? I think, however that fatties are different because most smokers and drinkers tend to get sick and die quick while fatties just have years of related expensive health problems. I realize that some smokers may linger with health problems but those are probably the ones who quit smoking before the full effect could be realized.

Maybe because no one ever died from secondary fatness or being run over by someone who had consumed too many ho-hos and got behind the wheel.
Jeez, this Board is obsessed with fat people!

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
When I get home tonight, this being a typical sunny, hot, schools-out day, there will be at least ten kids in my house or on my deck or in my yard, and probably seven of them will eat dinner there. Were I to follow that diet, I would rapidly lose weight, culminating in my thin, svelte death by starvation.
I wouldn't care how the kids eat (OK, unless they were mine, in which case they would be at your backyard patio door holding a plate of your nice lean grilled just-as-good-as-steak-no-really fish asking for a second fork, please, if it's not too much trouble, so they could attack the thing correctly). What, you always eat with the kids, and the same thing, and with the same table manners? Exile them to the kiddie table, by god, before it's too late!!

Anyway, to heck with having kids, try eating lunch at your desk during a conference call under those strictures.
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(Sitting? Glassware? Civilized? All equally attainable.)
Heh hehe.

zakoh02 06-20-2003 01:12 PM

Weight Watchers
 
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Originally posted by MisterEbola
One of our paralegals lives nearby the Krispy Kreme factory. She brought in three dozen this morning.

I ate two - and loved it.
The way to work in KK according to Weight Watchers...

Each "hot now" original KK is 5 points.
Daily number of points allowed on WW is about 15-20 (depending on your weight).
Thus, you can eat 3-4 KK's per day and still lose weight (of course you get water for your appetizer and dessert).

Zak ("hot now")

Edited to say that I hear Spellbound was fantastic. I am also really looking forward to Seabiscuit.

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by former gov't
Maybe because no one ever died from secondary fatness or being run over by someone who had consumed too many ho-hos and got behind the wheel.
Having had my foot run over by a morbidly obese gentleman in his little motorized wheely-cart, I beg to differ. However, I acknowledge that fatness is, on casual encounter, often a less obtrusive personal vice than smoking; until it runs over your foot, breaks your furniture or spills over onto your subway seat, at least. (And re: second hand smoke ... nevermind, don't get me started. Suffice it to say that the apparent health risks of living with an obese parent or partner appear to be vastly higher than the health risks associated with living with a smoker or working in a smoky environment.)

But, I would argue that fatness itself cannot be held to be offensive. Thus I am troubled by the "outa my way fattie" and "I don't want to see it" stuff. One may claim that some people make unwise choices about their physical presentation given their individual physical characteristics, but that can really be held no more "offensive" than, say, someone my (stubby) height who stupidly wear capris and flats. One might claim that people have dressed or otherwise presented themselves improperly, but, if a skinny person would be "allowed" to wear it or get away with it, so is a fat person - one can only point to a lack of wisdom or strategy on the matter. The obese have just as much place wearing a bikini at the beach as anyone else, walking down the street as anyone else, shopping, whatever.

But I'm a little weird in my insistance on the huge difference between "good idea/bad idea" and "should/shouldn't - correct/incorrect."
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Jeez, this Board is obsessed with fat people!
Well, you know the official topic, you can't be terribly surprised.

MisterEbola 06-20-2003 01:49 PM

Paigow-free Friday
 
Have noticed the volume of posts is off by about 30% today - then noticed that PP is not posting. Coincidence?

She must be out trying new burritos. Or getting the HBI from some paralegal/mailroom clerk in an attempt to burn additional calories after yesterday's revealing discussion about orgasms.


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