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Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 01:55 PM

Weight Watchers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by zakoh02
The way to work in KK according to Weight Watchers...
If I were on my "eat something before 9 am" diet and ate a KK every morning, it would help me eat better overall and drop weight, I guarantee it. With all that fun goop coursing through my veins, I probably wouldn't feel like more than a cup of soup for lunch rather than falling on a huge pile of food like a starving wolf, as I usually do.

Anne Elk 06-20-2003 01:57 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
I pre-ordered from Amazon and got an e-mail stating that it shipped this morning.

tm
I pre-ordered too, but no confirmation of shipping yet.


Edited to add:
It's shipped and is in Lexington, KY! I never got an e-mail but checked the status of my order at amazon.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-20-2003 01:59 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
I pre-ordered too, but no confirmation of shipping yet.
Amazon informed me this morning that it had shipped me my "What not to Wear" book (BBC version), but has not yet told me that my Harry Potter book is on the way.

robustpuppy 06-20-2003 01:59 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
my (stubby) height
Interesting. In my mind you are 5'10" (in bare feet).

bilmore 06-20-2003 02:01 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Interesting. In my mind you are 5'10" (in bare feet).
Funny. I always pictured her in shoes.


(Edited because I thought of something better.)

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 02:02 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
(And re: second hand smoke ... nevermind, don't get me started. Suffice it to say that the apparent health risks of living with an obese parent or partner appear to be vastly higher than the health risks associated with living with a smoker or working in a smoky environment.)
Did I misread this? You think the second-hand health risks are higher for those who live or work around fat people than they are for those who live or work around those who smoke?

Wait--will I get fat if I *don't* fat bash? This is all so confusing. Wait--yes, yes, YES! Right there. Ooooh, yes. There, that should even it out.

SEC_Chick 06-20-2003 02:06 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Amazon informed me this morning that it had shipped me my "What not to Wear" book (BBC version), but has not yet told me that my Harry Potter book is on the way.
Amazon was pissing me off because it wouldn't let me pre-order/put it my cart. I went to Overstock.com instead, got it for a dollar chaper, and received an email today that they had shipped it yesterday.

robustpuppy 06-20-2003 02:06 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Funny. I always pictured her in shoes.


(Edited because I thought of something better.)
Good point. Damn my lack of precision. I always picture DS in shoes, too (mules with 3" heels to be precise).

Sparklehorse 06-20-2003 02:14 PM

Accessories question
 
I bought this dress to wear to a wedding and I'm trying to determine how to accessorize. Despite the recommendation of the Ann Taylor web site, I'm not sure I like the look of dark sandals with this dress. Any thoughts or ideas?

I have a great beaded clutch bag which is white with light blue diagonal stripes.

http://fp.anntaylor.com/@v=0112@/Ima...775_1391xl.jpg

bilmore 06-20-2003 02:20 PM

Accessories question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
I bought this dress to wear to a wedding and I'm trying to determine how to accessorize . . . .
http://fp.anntaylor.com/@v=0112@/Ima...775_1391xl.jpg
Good lord, what happened to your head?!

robustpuppy 06-20-2003 02:21 PM

Paigow-free Friday
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MisterEbola
PP is not posting
While I assume that you only attempted to flame PP to draw her out because you want to see her, I will nonetheless remind you that it is impolite to speak ill of a person in her absence.

Sparklehorse 06-20-2003 02:23 PM

Accessories question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Good lord, what happened to your head?!
Edited to avoid outing.

(Why aren't you worried about my arms and legs?)

ThrashersFan 06-20-2003 02:24 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by former gov't
Maybe because no one ever died from secondary fatness or being run over by someone who had consumed too many ho-hos and got behind the wheel.
Jeez, this Board is obsessed with fat people!
Actually my quote, when taken in context, wasn't meant to imply anything about how dangerous things are to third-parties. The comment was made in relation to conversations about how smokers and drinkers need to pay sin taxes, in part, because they incur extra healthcare costs due to their "bad" habits. I was commenting that I thought drinkers and smokers tend to kick off early and often while overweight people tend to have lifelong healthcare problems. Not saying that smokers and drinkers don't use healthcare resources, but I think our habits tend to kill us quicker. This was in no way intended to state an opinion about smoking in public or drinking and driving. On that note, I saw the bumber sticker "Don't Drink Drive. You Might Hit A Bump And Spill Your Drink" today, on a fucking mini-van. I resisted the urge to downshift and speed past the neutered slow-driving dude driving it who probably had more fun putting that sticker on his mini-van than he has otherwise had in 15 years.

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 02:28 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Did I misread this? You think the second-hand health risks are higher for those who live or work around fat people than they are for those who live or work around those who smoke?
Re: working around the fat, absolutely not, unless they are all in those electric wheely-carts, which I now give a wide berth, but that's a wheely-cart problem not a weight problem. But living with them? Yes, actually, I do. Particularly for children with obese parents, but also for other family members exposed to the diet/exercise habits of their loved ones. The children of the obese are far more likely to themselves become obese and die of complications thereof than children exposed to second hand smoke are to die of second-hand-smoke-related illnesses, even given the evidence that SHS slightly increases the chance of a SIDS death in resident infants. Dietary and exercise practices, good and bad, do tend to rub off on the rest of one's family (and children, after all, have to eat what they are given).

And, since you asked, the EPA's much touted 1993 second hand smoke report (still the primary document cited by anti-smoking activists, including Bloomberg justifying the recent NYC ban), which was roundly and pretty justifiably criticized as having no scientific basis whatsoever since it ignored the 2/3 of SHS studies that had findings that didn't support the EPA's position, found a relative risk rate of 1.19 for second hand smoke - this when any relative risk rating of less than 2.0 is considered by the EPA to be inconsequential and indistinguishable from a sample error. That report also found (based on no studies) that non-smokers working full-time in smoky environments (bars) got the equivalent of 1/5 of a cigarette per day, though repeated studies both before and since have found non-smokers in smoky workplaces get the equivalent of 6 cigarettes per year.

BR(unpleasantness of SHS is a MUCH better argument for smoking bans than health)C

purse junkie 06-20-2003 02:31 PM

Wedding Shoes
 
Try these in the silver if it's an evening wedding:

http://www.stuartweitzman.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=20

Sorry, too technologically impaired to post the picture. Anyway, I'd go with a lighter colored sandal as well.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-20-2003 02:33 PM

Vanity?
 
Originally posted by ThrashersFan:
I say the same thing in defense of smokers and drinkers. Why the fuck are people so pissed about our "bad" habits when statistically we are doomed to take a dirt nap before we can even dream of collecting social security? I think, however that fatties are different because most smokers and drinkers tend to get sick and die quick while fatties just have years of related expensive health problems. I realize that some smokers may linger with health problems but those are probably the ones who quit smoking before the full effect could be realized.

Originally posted by former gov't:
Maybe because no one ever died from secondary fatness or being run over by someone who had consumed too many ho-hos and got behind the wheel.
Jeez, this Board is obsessed with fat people!

a. I drink a lot and have excellent health. I also smoke from time to time and I can do 45 min on a treadmill at high speed with no strain at all. My blood pressure is low and my resting heart rate is @ 60-64 (when I'm not irate and it flies off the handle).

b. I never ever drive drunk, like 90% of those who partake. Secondary smoke is a fictional PC concept for the tofu frutitcake crowd of lifestyle police. You can smoke at my table whenever you like - hell, blow it right in my face while I eat. The sort of soft personality who imposes his health concerns on the rest of us is exactly the type who ought to be put on a barge to Antartica.

If you're going to say its wrong to rip on fatties, then its also wrong to rip on drinkers and smokers. A little consistency is in order, since without consistency, your position is hypocritical.

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 02:35 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Fat v. 2dHandSmoke
Huh. Good to know.

Antoher thing I've noticed, is that children of smokers (I'm talking adults whose parents smoked around them when they were children), especially heavy smokers, tend to be grossed out by smoking and never touch cigarettes. And that children of obese people I know, both child children and adult children, are often also obese.

bilmore 06-20-2003 03:13 PM

Accessories question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
Edited to avoid outing.

(Why aren't you worried about my arms and legs?)
I've always fallen for a woman's mind before her body. What can I say?

evenodds 06-20-2003 03:17 PM

Wedding Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Try these in the silver if it's an evening wedding:

http://www.stuartweitzman.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=20

Sorry, too technologically impaired to post the picture. Anyway, I'd go with a lighter colored sandal as well.
Concur with the light colored sandal. I might stick to more of a fleshtone, but ridiculously I associate silver and gold with old lady shoes.

E/O

purse junkie 06-20-2003 03:22 PM

Vanity?
 
Secondary smoke is a fictional PC concept for the tofu frutitcake crowd of lifestyle police. You can smoke at my table whenever you like - hell, blow it right in my face while I eat. The sort of soft personality who imposes his health concerns on the rest of us is exactly the type who ought to be put on a barge to Antartica.

If you're going to say its wrong to rip on fatties, then its also wrong to rip on drinkers and smokers. A little consistency is in order, since without consistency, your position is hypocritical. [/QUOTE]

Wrong. Kill yourself in your own house if you want--though I've watched someone die of emphysema and it's a gasping, miserable way to go, so I rather hope you won't--but don't impose it on the public. It's a needless carcinogen and not unreasonable for nonsmokers to want to avoid it, and I don't hear reeking smokers offering to pay for my dry-cleaning when my coat can't shake their ashtray stench.

If you eat like a pig at McDonald's or drink yourself into cirrhosis it has no direct impact on me whatsoever; sure, I'll pay indirectly for your inflated health care costs, but either vice or decaying old age'll make us all burdens on the system at some point so we all share that one no matter what.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-20-2003 03:25 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Re: working around the fat, absolutely not, unless they are all in those electric wheely-carts, which I now give a wide berth, but that's a wheely-cart problem not a weight problem. But living with them? Yes, actually, I do. Particularly for children with obese parents, but also for other family members exposed to the diet/exercise habits of their loved ones. The children of the obese are far more likely to themselves become obese and die of complications thereof than children exposed to second hand smoke are to die of second-hand-smoke-related illnesses, even given the evidence that SHS slightly increases the chance of a SIDS death in resident infants. Dietary and exercise practices, good and bad, do tend to rub off on the rest of one's family (and children, after all, have to eat what they are given).

And, since you asked, the EPA's much touted 1993 second hand smoke report (still the primary document cited by anti-smoking activists, including Bloomberg justifying the recent NYC ban), which was roundly and pretty justifiably criticized as having no scientific basis whatsoever since it ignored the 2/3 of SHS studies that had findings that didn't support the EPA's position, found a relative risk rate of 1.19 for second hand smoke - this when any relative risk rating of less than 2.0 is considered by the EPA to be inconsequential and indistinguishable from a sample error. That report also found (based on no studies) that non-smokers working full-time in smoky environments (bars) got the equivalent of 1/5 of a cigarette per day, though repeated studies both before and since have found non-smokers in smoky workplaces get the equivalent of 6 cigarettes per year.

BR(unpleasantness of SHS is a MUCH better argument for smoking bans than health)C
I also think the risks related to second-hand smoke are vastly inflated. I don't see why ANYONE would mislead society into thinking that something exists when it doesn't...

And I'm an ex-smoker. But maybe we know best. I've inhaled less smoke (much less) from second-hand in the past three years than I did in one night of first-hand smoke on a Friday night.

Edited to say that it's all about empirical evidence, and as DS said, there just isn't any. And they're have been PLENTY of studies (not conducted by Big Tobacco) that have tried to prove otherwise...

RedLady 06-20-2003 03:25 PM

Harry Potter
 
I did not order Harry Potter earlier, but when I went to the grocery store at lunch I noticed they were going to be selling it tomorrow for $19.99, is that a good price or should I check out Wal-Mart first which will also be selling the book tomorrow I'm sure.

leagleaze 06-20-2003 03:26 PM

http://omnilegalnews.com/
 
Hi folks. In response to the concern Bilmore mentioned, Even Odds suggested the name Omni Legal News as nice and ambiguous. So, I registered the above address. Presently it is just being redirected, when I have a chance I will make it so it becomes an actual address of its own, hopefully, solving the problem Alex mentioned.

It will be operation in a while. When you use it it will actually bring you to a numerical address. The numerical address is the same as lawtalkers.com. This is what I will have to change when I have a chance later, so it actually uses a different numerical address.

L

bilmore 06-20-2003 03:27 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RedLady
I did not order Harry Potter earlier, but when I went to the grocery store at lunch I noticed they were going to be selling it tomorrow for $19.99, is that a good price or should I check out Wal-Mart first which will also be selling the book tomorrow I'm sure.
I would guess that, by Monday, you'll be able to download it for free from some web site.

evenodds 06-20-2003 03:34 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RedLady
I did not order Harry Potter earlier, but when I went to the grocery store at lunch I noticed they were going to be selling it tomorrow for $19.99, is that a good price or should I check out Wal-Mart first which will also be selling the book tomorrow I'm sure.
NPR had a story this morning. Apparently, Sam's Club has it for 17 and Costco for a dollar less.

I might have the figures slightly off since i was asleep, but Costco was the lowest.

bilmore 06-20-2003 03:40 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I also think the risks related to second-hand smoke are vastly inflated.
Me too. However, Steve had it right - I try to avoid blowing smoke at non-smokers in public places for the same reason I try to avoid copious farts.

It's not gonna kill 'em, but that doesn't make it a good thing.

RedLady 06-20-2003 03:46 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
NPR had a story this morning. Apparently, Sam's Club has it for 17 and Costco for a dollar less.

I might have the figures slightly off since i was asleep, but Costco was the lowest.

No Costco in my neck of the woods, so Wal-Mart it probably is.

andViolins 06-20-2003 03:48 PM

Harry Potter
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RedLady
No Costco in my neck of the woods, so Wal-Mart it probably is.
The Wal-Mart web site is listing the book for $17.97

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/searc...y=harry+potter

aV

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 04:01 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Me too. However, Steve had it right - I try to avoid blowing smoke at non-smokers in public places for the same reason I try to avoid copious farts.

It's not gonna kill 'em, but that doesn't make it a good thing.
Exactly. I consider it a sad, sad statement about the state of people's manners that everyone assumes that the only grounds they have to complain about smokers imposing their intrusive activities on them involuntarily is to make it a public health issue. How about "it is bad manners to smoke in front of other people without first securing their permission, unless in a designated smoking area?"

BR(though I still think the proprieters of establishments should be able to designate them or not as smoking zones as they see fit, and I say this as a non-smoker who hates stinky smoky sweaters)C

Shape Shifter 06-20-2003 04:06 PM

Silly Mammals
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...uesplitting_dc

(Spree: More tonguesplitting. According to the article, one of the major drawbacks to having a forked tongue is that it makes it difficult to eat ice cream.)

evenodds 06-20-2003 04:07 PM

For Love or Money -- Part II
 
Looks like Paige may be perfect for Rob after all. She was arrested three time for DWI, before she turned 21.

From the Smoking Gun:

JUNE 19--We're beginning to understand why young Paige Jones, the doe-eyed gold digger from NBC's "For Love or Money," hasn't seemed upset by the drunken, grabby-handed antics of Rob Campos, the reality show's creepy bachelor. Turns out that the 21-year-old also knows what it's like to get plastered and act real stupid.

In February 2001, the Texas woman was arrested for driving while intoxicated, according to court records. After blowing through a toll booth on the Dallas North Tollway, Jones--who was driving a Honda with a flat tire--was pursued by a Texas state trooper. According to an arrest warrant, Jones's vehicle was seen weaving across the road and she would not pull over when the officer activated the cruiser's lights and siren. Only when the trooper pulled alongside her car did Jones finally stop. "I didn't see you," she told the arresting officer when asked why she did not stop.

The trooper noted that a bleary-eyed Jones smelled of booze and that her speech was slurred. Asked if she had been drinking, Jones answered candidly: "A whole lot." After staggering out of the Honda, she failed a series of field sobriety tests and later refused to undergo blood and Breathalyzer tests. Cops found a fake ID in her purse, which Jones, then 19, admitted using to "buy drinks at several bars."

In May 2001, Jones was arrested a second time, this time in Richardson, Texas for driving under the influence. She was also picked up for outstanding charges involving driving a vehicle with insufficient insurance and an expired inspection certificate. In July 2001, Jones was busted for the third time in five months. Cops in Ellis County, Texas nabbed her on a misdemeanor charge of driving while her license was suspended. Below you'll find the hat trick of mug shots Jones posed for in 2001, arranged in order of bust.

Full text:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/paigejones1.html

purse junkie 06-20-2003 04:16 PM

Silly Mammals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...uesplitting_dc

(Spree: More tonguesplitting. According to the article, one of the major drawbacks to having a forked tongue is that it makes it difficult to eat ice cream.)
Well, if the fact that I'd look like a snake-tongued freak and be a social pariah (at least among non-psychos) wouldn't stop me from doing this, *that* sure as hell would.

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 04:23 PM

Silly Mammals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Well, if the fact that I'd look like a snake-tongued freak and be a social pariah (at least among non-psychos) wouldn't stop me from doing this, *that* sure as hell would.
This reminds me that a few weeks ago I saw a man that I would guess to be in his late 50s with random tattoos covering his entire body, including three separate and unrelated facial tats and neck and scalp tats. He also had spacers in his ears and a round nose ring. Didn't notice whether his tongue was split.

I found it intriguing that he seemingly put no thought into developing a theme or even color scheme with his tats.

Aside from this dude, I don't usually see people over the age of about 35 with this kind of ornatmentation. Except, I suppose, the Prince Albert guy, who was also in his 50s. Still scarred by that.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-20-2003 04:33 PM

Silly Mammals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
This reminds me that a few weeks ago I saw a man that I would guess to be in his late 50s with random tattoos covering his entire body, including three separate and unrelated facial tats and neck and scalp tats. He also had spacers in his ears and a round nose ring. Didn't notice whether his tongue was split.

I found it intriguing that he seemingly put no thought into developing a theme or even color scheme with his tats.

Aside from this dude, I don't usually see people over the age of about 35 with this kind of ornatmentation. Except, I suppose, the Prince Albert guy, who was also in his 50s. Still scarred by that.
My hairdresser just informed me that he is 40. He looks late 20's at the most. His arms are totally covered with tattoos, and he has a pierced tongue. Apparently he is a scratch golfer (told to me by someone who golfed with him). I guess he played since he was a little kid and that is why he is so good, but I cannot see him joining a stuffy golf club anytime soon (is there such a thing as a non-stuffy golf club).

purse junkie 06-20-2003 04:49 PM

Silly Mammals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
(all-body tattoos)
I'm too scared I'd end up with regrets that would make me get either a painful laser removal or a half-assed correction like Johnny Depp's "Wino Forever." But aside from my personal wuss factor I've got nothing against 'em on anyone else.

The extreme body-modification stuff makes me woozy though.

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 04:52 PM

Silly Mammals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
My hairdresser just informed me that he is 40. He looks late 20's at the most. His arms are totally covered with tattoos, and he has a pierced tongue. Apparently he is a scratch golfer (told to me by someone who golfed with him). I guess he played since he was a little kid and that is why he is so good, but I cannot see him joining a stuffy golf club anytime soon (is there such a thing as a non-stuffy golf club).
Isn't Alice Cooper an avid golfer?

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-20-2003 05:14 PM

Accessories question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
I bought this dress to wear to a wedding and I'm trying to determine how to accessorize. Despite the recommendation of the Ann Taylor web site, I'm not sure I like the look of dark sandals with this dress. Any thoughts or ideas?

I have a great beaded clutch bag which is white with light blue diagonal stripes.

http://fp.anntaylor.com/@v=0112@/Ima...775_1391xl.jpg
I agree with the nude/silver sandal crowd, either one. You could also go with white strappy sandals, as well, which would work with that bag.

in terms of other accessories, consider:

16-18 inch (short) necklace (pearls?)

shawl with some pattern in it (flowers?) Or a cardigan in a pastel color would be pretty, too.

you could pin a silk flower at the waist where the dress ties shut. It would be very '30s/retro, but it could be cute. keep jewelry low-key and classic if you do this - pearl earrings/necklace should be about it.

sparkly bangle bracelets would be fun with the bare arms

long dangly/chandalier earrings (but not with a necklace)

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 06-20-2003 05:18 PM

Chicks dig porn
 
Women, apparently, are not picky about their porn; hetero, lesbian, or gay, it's all good.

edited to note that I had no idea "the vagina becomes darker during arousal."

ABBAKiss 06-20-2003 05:20 PM

Accessories question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
A bunch of fashion ideas that sound nice for other people but that I would never wear
I HATE silver and white shoes, although I have two pairs of silver sandals from two separate weddings I was in.

A friend has a very similar dress in a very similar color and she recently found periwinkel sandals with just a butterfly band across the toes at Macy's (on sale, she said, so probably not this season??)that would look cute with the dress. That's the type of shoe I would look for.

But then, I would never wear pearls or a cardigan either. Like the look on others, but I would look like I am pretending to be someone I am not if I were to wear such things.

Atticus Grinch 06-20-2003 05:23 PM

Vanity?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I also think the risks related to second-hand smoke are vastly inflated. I don't see why ANYONE would mislead society into thinking that something exists when it doesn't...
Ooooh, ooooh, I know! Because you want to motivate the society to do something it otherwise wouldn't, like banning smoking in bars or invading Iraq, because it's an incremental step toward an undisclosed agenda that's distasteful, like banning smoking altogether or remaking the face of the Middle East?

Sorry, too obvious?


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