Shameless plea
 

Will whoever took The Paigow please put her back?

She is a very valuable poster and adds a great deal to this community.

Thank you.

CD

Female Tennis Players
 

So did I - I thought it was a tongue-in-cheek steroids diatribe, nicely aimed.

Female Tennis Players
 

merely pointing out that one person's poison is another's, well, not poison.

Female Tennis Players
 

I just saw some recent pics as well. I think she looks terrific, if not too bulky for my tastes.

Can't comment on Capriati, as I haven't seen a recent pic.

Shameless plea
 

Don't worry, she might leave, but she'll come back.

Female Tennis Players
 

Whew! Thank you. It wasn't supposed to be taken literally. I really don't think they're men. Sorry if I offended you leagleaze - I really was just trying to be funny in a "good lord these girls sure have a suspicious amount of muscle" way...

Female Tennis Players
 

is the theory here that if a woman is a good athelete, she must be on steroids?

cd

peal jam fans are stupid
 

I read it at "The Agonist" here:


You know, I always wondered how you got the words to show up instead of the actual URL so that you just click on the word and it magically transports you to the new site. Even though this program lets you do it without really knowing how (it's like a cheat-sheet) I feel like my web-fu quotient is rising, and (sniff), I'm getting verklempt. Of course, I'm nowhere near taking the grasshopper from the hand, but, the journey of 1,000 miles and yadda yadda yadda...

(I had to work in the phrase "web-fu" in there somehow!)

Female Tennis Players
 

It's a "Jump to Conclusions Mat"! You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO!

Female Tennis Players
 

Is the theory here that, if you can find some way to be offended by something, then that must have been the meaning?

I think it has more to do with muscle mass and development. If you want to take the position that steroid use does not result in an inordinate kind and quantity of development, noticable to the eye, well, . . .

Female Tennis Players
 

Apparently. Or she must be male. HILARIOUS.

And I know you didn't mean to be offensive, and you certainly don't need to apologize to me Coltrane, though I appreciate it. As you have the right to make whatever joke you want, people have the right to find it amusing or not. I found it not.

As MR pointed out it is all in perspective.

Female Tennis Players
 

I think the real question isn't whether anyone is a man, but whether anyone else agrees with me that Venus--and Melissa Rivers particularly, though not a tennis player--looks like a horse.

And of course they're not men. They're just better tennis players than you.

Shameless plea
 

paigow's "apology" was nothing more than a plea for attention. and we're all giving her exactly what she wanted. she's sitting at her desk laughing as she reads these posts.

it's all quite silly.

Shameless plea
 

Agreed, and my point exactly.

It's sort of history you see Darcy. Paigow "leaves" and people beg her to stay, and she might leave for a while, or not, but, she comes back.

All in good fun.

Coltrane, every time you post I find myself compelled to read your signature line. And then I feel bad because I have never really thought about Dignan and prefer to think about myself.

But I don't feel bad enough to actually think about Dignan.

I am having a really shitty day and
 

Translation: I am sorry I have to pull SI stunts to keep people reading my stuff.

TM

Female Tennis Players
 

Serena's clearly a chick. Now Capriati... she may be a hermaphrodite. I think there may be some reverse form of Klinefelter's Syndrome that women like Martina and Capriati get. They all have horse faces and way too much acne for their ages.

I still say Sarah Jessica Parker is a hermaphrodite.

S(so is Jamie Lee Curtis)D

Female Tennis Players
 

I will probably regret this, but what is Klinefelter's Syndrome?

Shameless plea
 

Or all very annoying, depending on your perspective.

Female Tennis Players
 

Where is your "signature" line from? I googled it (I'm high on my burgeoning web-fu techniques), and got only one hit that was some page about climbing mountains. Not very illuminating.


PS -- In case any of you were wondering whether every post of mine from now on will have the word "web-fu" woven into the timeless prose, the answer would be "yes indeedy."

Mullets and Beav Poll
 

Really? Hmmmmm

I like the idea in principle, but I've always appreciated the aesthetics of the contrast the well groomed carpeting provides, even if it is harder to work with.

S(Interesting... your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter)D

peaRl jam fans are stupid
 

I saw it there first, too. Isn't the Magic Linking Thing fun? Particularly fun when used to link to other posts here. :boots:

Let us pause for a moment in the memory of the dearly departed who pioneered the use of such linking, at least in my own little world, and created wonderful things with it until they were taken from us too soon.:sniffle:

edited to put the "r" in pearl jam, the absence of which has been making me wish I was e/o

Carnies
 

In re Serena Williams - I'll quote none other than Austin Powers:

You must admit she is rather mannish. Really, if that is a woman she must have been beaten with an ugly stick

not7yS

Female Tennis Players
 

"Bottle Rocket" - first movie from Owen/Luke/other brother Wilson. 1996 I believe.

I am squishing your head, rimmer
 

squish squish squish

I think everyone who I forwarded your PMs knows exactly what I am talking about.

Oh, and I am sorry for bringing out your worst case paranoia and stupidity.

Now I am REALLY gone and no amount of tennis posts are going to keep me here.

And leagl, I think you need to reread your FB history books or get the Emmanuels from Ollie or someone.

Shameless plea
 

I'm not. D'oh!:doh:

Female Tennis Players
 

nope. that's why i phrased my question as a question.

from your clarification, it sounds like the theory (one theory) is that if a woman -- or perhaps any person, male or female -- has certain muscle size and/or shape, they must be using steroids. is that closer to the mark?

i wouldn't dispute that steroid use results in muscle mass, etc., but i do think it's insulting to athletes who work very hard to do what they do to assume that i can tell just by looking at someone that they use steroids.

i know some people do use steroids. and not all athletes work hard. but i also think the human body can do astonishing things, and varies immensely in terms of shape, size, strengths and abilities across people.

am i spelling athlete wrong? looks odd.

cd

Please think about Dignan. Please.

I don't know that the original post was really theorizing on anything. It seemed to me like just a comment.

Venus and Serena
 

Speaking of tennis players, did anyone else read the article where Venus is starting her own interior design biz? I'm not sure if she's just planning for the future after tennis or if she's tired of everyone pointing out that her little sister is beating her and planning on getting out sooner than expecte.

Either way, I'm hoping the Williams' sisters taste in tennis outfits isn't a glimpse of their design sense.

Female Tennis Players
 

"Bottlerocket"

Carnies
 

Call me crazy, but I think she's pretty and has a beautiful smile. She is a ... um, powerful woman, but I don't think that means she can't be considered pretty.

http://www.carolduboc.com/images9602...c_williams.jpg



Shoot -- and can't figure a way to work in "web-fu" somewhere -- wait -- I just did!

Elizabeth Hurley
 

is the theory here that if a woman is a good athlete, she must be ugly?

[for those having an even more difficult day than i am, the foregoing was a joke.]

i think serena's better looking than venus. that's just me.

cd

A cornucopia of subjects
 

I played tennis with Melissa Rivers last week. She might still be lingering from the effects of spending two weeks in the Aussie Rainforest, but she SUCKED. No backhand at all. And don't get me started on her serve . . .

Bottle Rocket is a must see movie. If you liked Rushmore or Royal Tenenbaums in the least, go see Wes' first (and in many ways, best) movie. Plus, Inez is HOT. And it's got Applejack/Kumar. I will not debate this.

Finally, WTF is "squishing your head," Paigs. If'n you're referring to the Kids in the Hall set-piece, it's "I'm crushing your head," (which can only be countered by the "nobody home" thumb gambit). So: NOBODY HOME.

Resume normalcy.

str(If Gwinky were here she'd know what I'm talking about)8.

Female Tennis Players
 

A. Sorry if that came off bitchy.

B. There's no absolute, and exercise will do great things, but when a certain stage of muscle development is reached, yeah, the prediction of steroid use is fairly reliable, esp. when combined withe the presence of some other physical changes they provoke.

Carnies
 

Serena ain't ugly. Her features are just not European enough for the likes of you (that was a joke, bilmore). Hell, you think Pink is hot. And aside for her "Get the party started video," she is decidedly not.

TM

Female Tennis Players
 

I think Serena is rather striking, not in the with -a-stick kind of way. Venus, not so much. But despite their muscle build they both present themselves as pretty feminine from what I've seen.

(And yet a good waxer can remove the tell tale steroid induced facial hair).

former (neither man, nor hermaphrodite)gov't.

Female Tennis Players
 

oh.
i guess i don't know enough about stages and the other physical changes. are we talking voice deepening, facial hair, things like that? do serena and capriati have them? (just curious, not trying to argue for its own sake). do men who take steroids get the same side effects?

cd

Venus and Serena
 

I saw that. I think she realizes, correctly, that her younger sis is both a better tennis player and more attractive woman than her. The worst thing about the former fact is that Richard Williams has been proven correct that Serena would, in time, become the better player.

Not being a fan of the "less is more" approach of interior design, or tennis dress, I agree with your hope. I can assure you that I want my interior design to cover me from all angles. I don't particularly relish curtains that cover only, say, the upper corners of the windows. Or neon carpeting.

Venus is in the enviable position of having such incredibly deep pockets plus a well-known name, that she, unlike most interior designers, will have a decent chance of making it through many lean years before she can actually strike it rich.

Did Dignan ever think about me?

You probably never even think about me.

Think about that.

Or Paigow will be sorry...