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Re: On a "need to know" basis

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 409106)

That's because however much most people (or some, or all -- depends who you ask) are wired for non-monogamy, they are even more wired for jealousy.

Which is kind of a different way of saying wired for monogamy, right? At least in a relationship with a relative equal power dynamic (which of course is a very recent development for the most part).

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 409071)

How about sisterfuckers -- can they change?

...right there on the Group W bench....

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409078)

Better to not have her grow up in a household without trust, sufficient respect between parents, anger and eventually no love. I went through this.

I remember bilmore posting about some study that said it's always better for the kids for the parents to stay together. I think this is absolute bullshit. My daughter is very happy and has two very loving homes. This, although obviously not ideal, beats the hell out of living in a house where the parents don't really want to be together.

That said, divorce for older children must be really hard. My daughter has grown up outside the traditional household structure. She's 8 (and, so far) is a happy, well-adjusted kid.

So, fuck all that pressure and guilt so many people throw at you. Focus on being a good parent and do what you think is best, not only for your child, but for you.

TM

Amen.

My wife's parents divorced when she was 13. She's the oldest, and she and her siblings moved to the U.S. with their mother. The divorce should have come much sooner. They tried to keep it together "for the kids" but the environment was unbelievably corrosive.

The whole thing ended with my father-in-law threatening to try to have my mother-in-law committed. They were living in his native country, surrounded by his relatives, and my mother-in-law was isolated and handicapped culturally, lingustically, and religiously (their social life revolved around a splinter conservative sect founded by my wife's grandfather). A flight to the U.S. embassy ensued, along with a visitation battle involving two countries' courts. Thankfully, my father-in-law ultimately dropped the custody battle.

30 years on, some of the raw edges have worn away. My wife and her siblings have a relationship with their father (thanks to her). Both my mother-in-law and my father-in-law attended our wedding, and the grandkids know both grandparents. But my wife and her siblings endured a living hell to get there, both before and for years after the divorce that should have happened almost 10 years previously.

For what it's worth.

CDF

Re: Weed, Whites and Wine

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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 409109)

Apropos of nothing* and for the 3 out there who might possibly care, the Black Crowes ended their gig last night with a great cover of "Willin'"

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*and not really nothing - the idea of Muffin reconciling for the umpteenth time with McDouche wants me to immediately seek out heavy doses of weed, whites and wine.

Right here, baby.

And may I take this opportunity to add a no fucking way of my own.

Re: Weed, Whites and Wine

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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 409113)

no fucking way

Like in Charlize pulling out the Ireland ball in the practice for the WC draw?

Re: On a "need to know" basis

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 409108)

I'm going to take this rare opportunity to completely, emphatically, and whole-heartedly agree with Hank.

Some woman, somewhere, is going to be very scared and unhappy in a "relationship" with him.

Don't let it be you.

CDF

Re: Weed, Whites and Wine

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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 409109)

Racist.

TM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409078)

Some people might say that you're a really terrible mother.

I'll just say 2.

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409078)

I remember bilmore posting about some study that said it's always better for the kids for the parents to stay together. I think this is absolute bullshit. My daughter is very happy and has two very loving homes. This, although obviously not ideal, beats the hell out of living in a house where the parents don't really want to be together.

That said, divorce for older children must be really hard. My daughter has grown up outside the traditional household structure. She's 8 (and, so far) is a happy, well-adjusted kid.

IMHO, divorce is harder on kids the older they get, except that it gets much less hard once they leave home.

Jesper Parnevik with a few choice quotes. Nike will be thrilled:

http://golf.fanhouse.com/2009/12/02/...usspor00000002

CDF

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 409118)

IMHO, divorce is harder on kids the older they get, except that it gets much less hard once they leave home.

I'm not entirely sure this is always true.

I had a boyfriend who's parents divorced when he was almost 30, after almost 40 years of marriage. It totally rocked his perception of reality and he swore he'd never marry because everything he thought he knew about love and marriage was wrong.

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 409120)

Can you be certain he actually had a perception of reality predating his parents' divorce?

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 409121)

Can you be certain he actually had a perception of reality predating his parents' divorce?

I can only tell you what he told me.

Which was that everything he thought to be true turned out not to be true.

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409082)

Yes.

TM

Smashing. I look forward to being on the other side of a deal from you one day! :rolleyes:

Re: Weed, Whites and Wine

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409116)

Racist.

TM

Ha. I was thinking of saying something like, "You mean a bunch of Klan members?" but wasn't sure it would be accepted in the intended spirit.