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Hank Chinaski 07-11-2017 01:58 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508684)
Lots of parodies showing up on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEdJt2RXoAQWeqt.jpg

This may be an urban myth, BUT when I lived in DC I had a good friend from Sterling Ok. His father visited him, and in a restaurant in Alexandria, supposedly, his father told a waiter, "I believe I'll have me a cup of that there chino."

Hank Chinaski 07-11-2017 02:05 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508682)
There is a David Brooks column today in which he talks about how he inconsiderately takes an uneducated "friend" to a place that serves fancy Italian hams with fancy names, and then realizes how she is out of her element, and so Brooks suggests Mexican instead.

Because working stiffs don't eat capicola.

Real Mexican would have all sorts of food names that would cause even worse heartburn (no pun intended).

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-11-2017 02:25 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 508686)
Real Mexican would have all sorts of food names that would cause even worse heartburn (no pun intended).

Yeah, but you know Brooks only uses the mild salsa and regularly punctuates his meal with statements like, "Now that is some hot stuff" .

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-11-2017 02:42 PM

Re: Fucking Stupid
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508683)
It is just mind-boggling.



They're called Republicans, and what's amazing is that a little more than a year ago, he had minority support within the party. The extent to which they have circled the wagons around him now that he is their standard-bearer is just incredible and depressing.

We're now at the "sure it's collusion with Russia, but collusion is ok and everyone does it" point.

I'm really looking forward to the "sure he paid them to pee on him in Moscow, but that's not prostitution just peeing and, hey, everybody does it."

Tyrone Slothrop 07-11-2017 02:52 PM

excellent point
 
Someone I don't know (Christina Wilkie) points out on Twitter that if the meeting began at 4 pm and ran 20-30 minutes, Trump tweeted his first-ever ask for Hillary's "33,000 emails" about fifteen minutes after the meeting ended.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-11-2017 03:06 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508682)
There is a David Brooks column today in which he talks about how he inconsiderately takes an uneducated "friend" to a place that serves fancy Italian hams with fancy names, and then realizes how she is out of her element, and so Brooks suggests Mexican instead.

Because working stiffs don't eat capicola.

I read this article. If you didn't go to college, you can't ask what the fuck "soppressata" is? I didn't grow up with any specific knowledge of fancy Italian names for cold cuts and yet, here I am, capable of ordering what I want in a gourmet sandwich shop. I also remember having to ask what certain things are that I've never seen before. Hell, I do this now in some restaurants. Sometimes, I outright google that shit (especially when it's in a different fucking language). "Pomodoro" is no less foreign a word than "chimifuckingchanga" until you know it.

I understand feeling out of place, for sure. But the answer isn't to get all paternalistic and protect that person from the embarrassment of not fitting in. This is hardly as overwhelming as if he took her to a group discussion on neoclassical architecture.

And "cultural signifiers" aren't the problem. The structure we have built in which those with money have separated themselves completely from those who don't is the problem. Send your kids to private school and watch the public school in your district go down the toilet--but, hey. My kid needs the best education possible. Parents in public schools? No better. Liberal Brooklyn parents lost their fucking minds when school districts were being redrawn. In Brooklyn. Legacy spots for kids in colleges are expected. Gated communities are bad. Expensive condos are just as bad. Cops patrol neighborhoods looking for people who don't belong instead of actual police work. His article addresses some of this (although he stole it from a similar, and much better written, piece I read weeks ago).

Brooks is an insufferable ass.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-11-2017 03:27 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508690)
Brooks is an insufferable ass.

TM

I hope this is one thing everyone can get behind.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-11-2017 05:21 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
According to Axios, Roger Stone is nuts:

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On the pushback:

There's an emerging strategy to turn this back around on the Democrats.

An extreme example of this approach is Roger Stone, who texted Axios: "The president can turn the tables and dominate the dialogue by ordering the indictment of [James] Clapper, [John] Brennan, [Susan] Rice and [former president Barack] Obama for the wholesale unconstitutional surveillance of Americans... I would seriously arrest [and] perp walk every one of these criminals, making as big a show of it as possible."

Although Stone is a longtime confidant of Trump, this in no way reflects the strategy preferred by current White House staffers. With that said, there are already internal conversations about turning this into a conversation about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and the way they handled sensitive intelligence.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-11-2017 06:58 PM

Lost without him
 
I need Sebby to comfort me by telling us that this is all a big nothing burger.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 07-11-2017 08:34 PM

Re: Fucking Stupid
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508688)
We're now at the "sure it's collusion with Russia, but collusion is ok and everyone does it" point.

I'm really looking forward to the "sure he paid them to pee on him in Moscow, but that's not prostitution just peeing and, hey, everybody does it."

Did you see Priebus the other day calling it all a "nothing burger"? It is like Sebastian is a Fox Talking Points robot with a pseudo-Thomson-eque patois. From this point forward, whenever I get caught doing something I shouldn't be doing, or get caught in a big mistake, or say something I shouldn't have said, I am going to just start shouting, "This is nothing but a big nothing burger! A. BIG. NOTHING. BURGER!!!!!!!!" over and over until everyone leaves me alone.

James Brown with "Talking Loud and Saying Nothing" for the Daily Dose. It's funky 'cuz it's true!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZkjo3mNmsA

Pretty Little Flower 07-11-2017 08:37 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508702)
I need Sebby to comfort me by telling us that this is all a big nothing burger.

TM

O.

M.

G.

Sebastian was right!!!! This place is totes an echo chamber. Damn, James Brown could really wring every last bit of funk out of a groove. Amirite??? So funky.

Adder 07-12-2017 12:04 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508692)
According to Axios, Roger Stone is nuts:

I'm sure the career prosecutors at DOJ would be lining up to take these cases...

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-12-2017 12:09 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508705)
I'm sure the career prosecutors at DOJ would be lining up to take these cases...

What about the docs at Bellevue?

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 12:26 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
"The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

sebastian_dangerfield 07-12-2017 02:06 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508702)
I need Sebby to comfort me by telling us that this is all a big nothing burger.

TM

This is a big reveal? That Jr. was meeting with Russians promising intel on HRC? Wasn't that already assumed? And wouldn't it be political malpractice not to explore such a lead?

It's salacious, no doubt, but whatever... It's just more of the Trump Shitshow. Did you expect something else? Did we all assume this would be like the Ford Administration?

Nobody but people who already hate Trump care. All's fair in politics.

I'm more interested in HC and taxes.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-12-2017 02:09 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508716)
This is a big reveal? That Jr. was meeting with Russians promising intel on HRC? Wasn't that already assumed? And wouldn't it be political malpractice not to explore such a lead?

It's salacious, no doubt, but whatever... It's just more of the Trump Shitshow. Did you expect something else? Did we all assume this would be like the Ford Administration?

Nobody but people who already hate Trump care. All's fair in politics.

I'm more interested in HC and taxes.

Ah. Thanks. That was just what I needed.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 07-12-2017 02:11 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508691)
I hope this is one thing everyone can get behind.

Says the effete capicola eating elitist.

"Let them eat prosciutto."

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 02:15 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508716)
Nobody but people who already hate Trump care. All's fair in politics.

Flavius Stilicho defeated Alaric's Goth three times, twice in Italy, saving the Western Roman Empire. But his rivals persuaded the emperor, Honorius, to have him arrested and executed. All's fair in politics, right? Alaric later sacked Rome. C'est la vie.

Adder 07-12-2017 02:22 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508716)
This is a big reveal? That Jr. was meeting with Russians promising intel on HRC? Wasn't that already assumed?

Perhaps, but it was certainly being repeatedly denied. And not just Jr. Also the campaign chairman and a now senior advisor to the president.

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And wouldn't it be political malpractice not to explore such a lead?
No, and it might have been felonious to do so if he was soliciting an in kind donation of opposition research. Oh, and even his cover story is that she was asking a quid pro quo regarding the lifting of sanctions.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 02:32 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508721)
No, and it might have been felonious to do so if he was soliciting an in kind donation of opposition research. Oh, and even his cover story is that she was asking a quid pro quo regarding the lifting of sanctions.

When Sebby says that all's fair in politics, he means that he has no problems with felonies. It's all fair. Because it's politics.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-12-2017 02:49 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508722)
When Sebby says that all's fair in politics, he means that he has no problems with felonies. It's all fair. Because it's politics.

Almost everything's a felony when the Feds want you. The fed crim code's a joke.

I don't care. If Jr. fucked up, he could be in serious trouble. Caveat emptor, novice. Time to call dad for lawyers, guns, and money!

(I've met Jr. Seemed like a quiet, almost shy sort. Didn't seem like the kind who'd do well in jail. But then, fed white collar jail is easy time, and he could make some good business connections.)

sebastian_dangerfield 07-12-2017 02:56 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508721)
Perhaps, but it was certainly being repeatedly denied. And not just Jr. Also the campaign chairman and a now senior advisor to the president.

No, and it might have been felonious to do so if he was soliciting an in kind donation of opposition research. Oh, and even his cover story is that she was asking a quid pro quo regarding the lifting of sanctions.

Lying to the media's not a crime.

Manafort and Jared might be going to Club Fed. "Buy the ticket, take the ride...". Whatevs.

This is a carnival show. Just like HRC's emails.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 03:02 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508723)
Almost everything's a felony when the Feds want you. The fed crim code's a joke.

While loopy, this tends to put your view of the criminality of Hillary's email server arrangements in a somewhat better light. Not good, but better.

Adder 07-12-2017 03:03 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508724)
Manafort and Jared might be going to Club Fed.

Ho hum, his senior advisors and close family members are crooks.

Oh, and 45 said the evening that Don Jr confirmed the meeting that he was going to have a press conference with dirt on Hillary. And tweeted for the first time about the Russians finding Hillary's emails.

But sure. He didn't know. Just a coincidence.

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Just like HRC's emails.
You're truly a moron.

Pretty Little Flower 07-12-2017 03:14 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508722)
When Sebby says that all's fair in politics, he means that he has no problems with felonies. It's all fair. Because it's politics.

It's a giant motherfucking nothing burger. You know why? Because the burger IS MADE OF NOTHING! Have you ever eaten a burger made of nothing? How would you even know? It is all meaningless meaninglessness that will lead to nothing because that is what is unfair in politics. Nothing. Take that and make a burger out of it and I think you'll begin to understand. Ask Tricky Dick. He didn't do shit. But the Feds decided they didn't like him so suddenly committing crimes while in the White House was a "felony." Felony shmelony. Treason shmeason. A giant load of bullshit is what this is. The only people who care about Trump committing "felonies" are the people who hate Trump already, and the people who hate Trump already only hate him because he commits "felonies." It's like a snake eating its own tail. After eating a whole fucking platter of nothing burgers.

Here is Funkadelic with "Red Hot mama" for the Daily Dose. You might want to skip to about 1:23 unless you're on acid, in which case you might want to only listen to the first minute and 23 seconds, over and over again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeNkRuYHy8k

Pretty Little Flower 07-12-2017 03:24 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508716)
It's just more of the Trump Shitshow. Did you expect something else? Did we all assume this would be like the Ford Administration?

I did assume that. I guess I let myself get fooled by the people who posted here back in the fall that Trump, while unpredictable, would be almost completely reigned in by his cadre of seasoned moderate political advisors, who would prevent this administration from devolving into a daily fucking inside out clown car. But you know what they say . . . . fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice and I'm going to fucking stab you in the eye. Because you shouldn't be fooling me so much.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 03:59 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 508728)
But you know what they say . . . . fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice and I'm going to fucking stab you in the eye. Because you shouldn't be fooling me so much.

Speaking of which, tomorrow's David Brooks column:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEdHdmRXkAAg20Y.jpg

SEC_Chick 07-12-2017 05:21 PM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508725)
While loopy, this tends to put your view of the criminality of Hillary's email server arrangements in a somewhat better light. Not good, but better.

I'll still throw down on the criminality of Hillary's email, but my friend's dad literally spent 9 months in solitary confinement for doing far less than Hillary (or either of the Donalds Trump).

Tyrone Slothrop 07-12-2017 06:38 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
If Christie were the Attorney General, would he have to recuse from a prosecution of Jared, or could he be first chair?

sebastian_dangerfield 07-13-2017 09:27 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508731)
If Christie were the Attorney General, would he have to recuse from a prosecution of Jared, or could he be first chair?

Flyover Land, Where They Don't Care. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN19X2TN

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-13-2017 09:43 AM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 508730)
I'll still throw down on the criminality of Hillary's email, but my friend's dad literally spent 9 months in solitary confinement for doing far less than Hillary (or either of the Donalds Trump).

Wait, how was solitary part of the sentence, and what did he do to merit it? I sense a colorful story here.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-13-2017 09:49 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508732)
Flyover Land, Where They Don't Care. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN19X2TN


I find the sudden plethora of "Jay-walking" articles about Trump supporters kind of bizarre. Still waiting to see some of the idiots I grew up with taking a break from their landscaping jobs and Italian lunch meats to answer some cub reporters' questions.

Adder 07-13-2017 10:26 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508732)
Flyover Land, Where They Don't Care. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN19X2TN

Wait, you think it only matters if it convinces his most ardent supporters?? You know that's not how politics works, right?

ThurgreedMarshall 07-13-2017 10:46 AM

Re: Lost without him
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508724)
This is a carnival show. Just like HRC's emails.

I know you're trying your best to troll, but at a certain point you just look fucking stupid.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 07-13-2017 10:50 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508732)
Flyover Land, Where They Don't Care. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN19X2TN

You should move there. You could be their dumbass king.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 07-13-2017 10:55 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508737)
You should move there. You could be their dumbass king.

TM

I'm telling you you're in a bubble.

Your hair remains on fire, you wonder how your message doesn't win elections. That article explains why. Ohio is a microcosm of the country.

You just don't get it.

But yes -- I like reminding you of that.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-13-2017 10:59 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508732)
Flyover Land, Where They Don't Care. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN19X2TN

How odd. The article says that 76% of the county voted for Trump, but every single voter quoted in the story is a Trump supporter. It's almost as if the reporter went looking for them.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-13-2017 11:00 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508735)
You know that's not how politics works, right?

I know you're trying your best to troll, but at a certain point you just sound sanctimonious.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-13-2017 11:24 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508738)
I'm telling you you're in a bubble.

Your hair remains on fire, you wonder how your message doesn't win elections. That article explains why. Ohio is a microcosm of the country.

You just don't get it.

But yes -- I like reminding you of that.

You are an imbecile. You think you're informing me that there are idiots out there who will believe ridiculous shit. If you think you're passing along news, you are in a bubble of your own creation. Everyone knows this shit.

Not only that, but this constant refrain that people who live in cities, who are well informed, and who share space with tons of different types of people with all sorts of experiences and opinions (from far right to far left) are the ones who live in a bubble (as opposed to the undereducated, misinformed, small town or rural, small-minded assholes whose only debate with the strictly white people they've known their whole lives is whether Trump is a great President or the greatest President) is beyond fucking stupid.

You can keep telling everyone they don't get it, but at some point you have to realize that the minute you turn your back, everyone is laughing at you.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-13-2017 11:27 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508738)
I'm telling you you're in a bubble.

Your hair remains on fire, you wonder how your message doesn't win elections. That article explains why. Ohio is a microcosm of the country.

You just don't get it.

But yes -- I like reminding you of that.

OMG, now you're going Charles Murray on us.

I grew up in the bubble that is rural America. A "bubble" occurs when one is not being open to ideas or to experiences that are unfamiliar. Bubbles are places where there is xenophobia and intolerance for others. The general sense that food might be better someplace other than Applebees or that it's worth actually reviewing a few facts instead of spouting Foxified platitudes is not living in a bubble.

The fact that I make fun of half-wit relatives who have never managed to see the Ocean while living five hours from it is not a bubble.

You do realize Murray is a buffoon? He's the Jeff Lord of the Harvard Faculty, who only has a job their because they needed a token conservative no matter how dumb?


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