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Tyrone Slothrop 07-15-2005 12:46 PM

Andrew Sullivan prints this e-mail from Sana'a, Yemen:
  • "I have been in Sana'a, Yemen working on an English language magazine and I felt the need to tell you that the climate here is angry. I read your blog daily and have the highest esteem for your intellectual pursuits. But, you've got it wrong about the "war is good because it stops the breeding of terrorists" thing. It's only making it worse - much, much worse. The U.S. is seen in a terrifically unenthusiastic light and all the war in Iraq seems to be doing is creating a culture of furious, uneducated 13 year olds who have to prove their manhood. The U.S. was something made up to them before this war. It was a far off place of blonde girls in bikinis and dudes who blow-dry their hair five times a day. Now, it's real and it's cramping their style. All the work our soft power did to create positive relations in the Arab world is becoming moot. Democracy is something a nation has to want, something a nation has to want so much they will shed blood for it. And the Arab world wants democracy as much as they want a hole in the head. They don't get it, they don't care to get it and it seems to be making life particularly shitty for their Iraqi brothers. I don't care what Bush or Wolfowitz or any of that crew have to say, people are not going to embrace this imposed "freedom." I am here, you aren't."

Shape Shifter 07-15-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
You'd have to ask the authors of the Lanham Act, but I'd imagine that as a matter of public policy they'd point to a distinction between restricting the government's ability to limit offensive speech versus the government offering affirmative rights to enable people to profit from it.
Can I get CLE credit for this?

sgtclub 07-15-2005 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
You'd have to ask the authors of the Lanham Act, but I'd imagine that as a matter of public policy they'd point to a distinction between restricting the government's ability to limit offensive speech versus the government offering affirmative rights to enable people to profit from it.
Isn't Hank a self-professed IP Guru? Where is he. Hank, this is the first time in the history of this board that someone actually is interested in what you do for a living. Carpe Diem!

Sexual Harassment Panda 07-15-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Andrew Sullivan prints this e-mail from Sana'a, Yemen:
  • "I have been in Sana'a, Yemen working on an English language magazine and I felt the need to tell you that the climate here is angry. I read your blog daily and have the highest esteem for your intellectual pursuits. But, you've got it wrong about the "war is good because it stops the breeding of terrorists" thing. It's only making it worse - much, much worse. The U.S. is seen in a terrifically unenthusiastic light and all the war in Iraq seems to be doing is creating a culture of furious, uneducated 13 year olds who have to prove their manhood. The U.S. was something made up to them before this war. It was a far off place of blonde girls in bikinis and dudes who blow-dry their hair five times a day. Now, it's real and it's cramping their style. All the work our soft power did to create positive relations in the Arab world is becoming moot. Democracy is something a nation has to want, something a nation has to want so much they will shed blood for it. And the Arab world wants democracy as much as they want a hole in the head. They don't get it, they don't care to get it and it seems to be making life particularly shitty for their Iraqi brothers. I don't care what Bush or Wolfowitz or any of that crew have to say, people are not going to embrace this imposed "freedom." I am here, you aren't."

But, but...bilmore has some buddies in the Green Zone who say everything's going great!! Must be a self-hating liberal.

Sexual Harassment Panda 07-15-2005 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't Hank a self-professed IP Guru? Where is he. Hank, this is the first time in the history of this board that someone actually is interested in what you do for a living. Carpe Diem!
He can't help. This is a trademark issue, and Hank does design patents for automobile wheel covers. Kind of a narrow niche, but there's no doubt he's the go-to guy for all the big boys. It's why he's so up on all the hip-hop culture, as well.

Gattigap 07-15-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Can I get CLE credit for this?
If you pay me an attendance fee, sure.

futbol fan 07-15-2005 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
But, but...bilmore has some buddies in the Green Zone who say everything's going great!! Must be a self-hating liberal.
This misses the point. The freedom hating Islamofascists have and always will hate us -- for our freedom (duh). Our actions are entirely irrelevant, because the "Arab Street" is not comprised of people with opinions that can be swayed in one direction or another by U.S. action (or the exercise of restraint), but is rather a solid mass of shrieking fanatics who lust (lust! I say) for our blood. See, e.g., Pony Trekker for suggested approaches to this seemingly intractable problem.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-15-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
And what is the rationale for not offering protection for "offensive" marks? We protect all sorts of "offensive" material and speach.
We don't give government granted monopolies for it though. You can't ban speech, but you don't have to subsidize it.

Gattigap 07-15-2005 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
We don't give government granted monopolies for it though. You can't ban speech, but you don't have to subsidize it.
This is why burger gets to chair the CLE events, and I'm the guy who tries to rouse the group's flagging attention for the 4:45 time slot.

sgtclub 07-15-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
We don't give government granted monopolies for it though. You can't ban speech, but you don't have to subsidize it.
Isn't porn entitled to copyright protection?

Bad_Rich_Chic 07-15-2005 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
But, but...bilmore has some buddies in the Green Zone who say everything's going great!! Must be a self-hating liberal.
Regardless of how its going, this person seems to have the rather odd impression that, until we invaded Iraq, the syndication of Bay Watch was about to make every disaffected youth in the middle east fall madly in love with us. And that their objection to the invasion is that it "cramps their style."

I am not inspired to trust this correspondent's judgment. But maybe I'm wrong, and all the teens in the middle east are really slacker mall rats.

BR(Yemen, New Jersey - people all over the world really are the same after all!)C

ltl/fb 07-15-2005 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't porn entitled to copyright protection?
Trademark, copyright. Trademark, copyright. Different things.

sgtclub 07-15-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Trademark, copyright. Trademark, copyright. Different things.
Understood, but we are still protecting "offensive" material for purposes of profit.

ltl/fb 07-15-2005 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Understood, but we are still protecting "offensive" material for purposes of profit.
From what I vaguely remember from some kind of IP class I took because it fit into my "no classes Mon or Fri" schedule, you don't ahve ot register to get copyright protection, but in your scenario the group is trying to register their trademark.

God, this is boringer than taxes. Hank, will you please explain this? Or Gatti. anyone.

SlaveNoMore 07-15-2005 01:39 PM

Two interesting breaking news bits:
 
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Gattigap
Quite the contrary. Rehnquist's actions have told Novak, bilmore, Penkse and Slave to take their predictions and go piss in the corner.

Further, such actions have made the Baby Jesus cry. The stars had aligned for Bush to nominate two -- TWO -- SC justices this summer, after which Bush would be consumed in holy light immediately preceding the Rapture. Rehnquist's intransigence in the face of this divine providence is just fucking things up, and if he knows what's good for him, he'd better remember what happens when you get on Rove's shit list.

My 2 cents-

Rehnquist will stick around - health willing - until the O'Connor replacement is named.


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