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Lingerie Bowl!
(Spree: "Models Nikki Ziering (L) and Angie Everhart (news) pose for photographers at a news conference announcing plans for 'Lingerie Bowl 2004', a live pay per view event to be televised at halftime during the 2004 Super Bowl, June 25, 2003 in Hollywood. The event will feature two teams of models in custom lingerie taking part in a 7 on 7 tackle football game." Includes a pic of the models in their undies). |
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(Or, a "puddle on the sidewalk of life", but who's counting?) (Prine's coming. (Sung to the tune of "Eli's coming".) I am happy.) ((You dooin OK?) |
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Or a Guinness and a shot of Talisker. :drunk: |
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That's a nordic warrior with roots in Finland. (Well, that clears up a lot, actually . . .) |
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PJ, good choices. I nearly put The Cars on my list. I have some Highway-specific selections. My original list works on any highway, day or night, but certain highways call for certain albums. For example, Highway 1 (at least South of San Luis Obispo) demands a Beach Boys album, I prefer Pet Sounds, but you might choose Surfer Girl. Headed North on Highway 1? A Nick Drake CD sounds even better as the fog wends through the pines of Santa Barbara (or Santa Cruz). Double Bonus Points for playing "The Union Forever" off of White Blood Cells near San Simeon. I'm not much of a beer drinker, and I don't dream of having a Guinness on a hot summer day. Several people on this board must be getting royalties for the Pisco Sour. I reserve the right to have a mojito on a summer day because I abandoned my usual drink for one after they had fallen out of favor (but while California bars still had abundant supplies of fresh mint). The Ivy makes their vodka gimlets with muddled mint; perhaps the Ivy Gimlet can be the FB drink for the summer of 2004. |
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And speaking of great monikers, I always laugh when I see Oliver Wendell Ramone. Just how genius is that? People who need work on their avatars, or at least need to explain their significance to me, in no paritcular order: purse junkie robust puppy leagl(I suggest a gigantic puffy purple LOL!!! to PO TM) thrashers fan T Slo Bilmore (needs to esp lose the number of posts thing- like, is he too good to have his acutal number posted?) |
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And why on earth would you consider puffy nipples nice? They kinda freak me out. S(I have a Playboy subscription, and I haven't received this issue yet)D |
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You are now person #5 in the history of television who doesn't "get" or appreciate the Simpsons. I find it very stange that you of all people would not appreciate the best written show in television history. It works on so many levels. I guess we have a differnce of taste. I find all forms of reality TV utterly dull. The genre is unredeemable in my view... and lord knows I've tried to watch, thinking I was missing something that everyone else was "getting." S(I've watched a few min of every reality show I've come across, yet I just can't stick with it... is there something wrong with me?)D |
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2) Your avatar needs a revision also. So does Anne Elk's. |
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ANd speaking of Daniella, I neglected to report taht she lost 0-6, 6-4, 12-10. I have not seen or read any accounts of this bc I cant get ESPN for some reason. But I note the frist set shows a total blowout whjich could be inpart attributed to the skill of Daniella, bt then the unknown asian catches up. by thethrid set, the inexperienced unknown asian beats Daniella in a long ass set. Daniella cries during the changeover. Is this the anorexia catching up both physically and mentally? Or is the unkonwn asian just really good? |
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But perhaps I should go for Shaggy. I relate well to sweet but ambitionless stoners. |
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A Guinness here is very different from a Guinness elsewhere. I've heard that Heineken is very good outside of the country. Maybe their recipe doesn't cope well with the American rules and regulations. |
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Velma blows - she's the most unhot cartoon character in history. No little girl wanted a Velma doll growing up - "Mommmy, I want the spinster librarian action figure.... please, please?" The other creepy thing about Velma was that she's a mid seventies invention which looks eerily similar to mid-70s Elton John. I think somebody in creative development got baked while listening to Goodbye Yello Brick Road and hence, Velma. If not for her ample Barbie-esque endowment which she displays prominently just below her chin, Velma would be very Pat-like. Leagl wouldn't want the Velma avatar either. S(you should be the brunette on Gilligan's Island - a much more aestethically pleasing package of brainsD |
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No, I wouldn't, I'm not terribly librarian looking. And I concur on Maryanne. |
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Not that you necessarily resemble the actress, but everytime you or the men of the FB or ABBA look at it, you'd have to think TITS! Edited to add link to picture: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...4htpw.html&e=1 (warning: fully clothed, though slightly risque) |
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But I am willing to change in order to pursue the laudable goal of avatar reform. Here she is, in handy avatar size: http://www2.abc.net.au/children/foru.../img/daria.gif |
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I dont love all reality tv. I like survivor when there is good strategy going on (which has been like twice) and good interplay. Ditto Big Brother which is probably my favorite. AMazing Race is still obring to me though I tried to watch it this season. Like the travelogue aspect of it though. But its boring. And I like ForLoveOrMoney bc it is revenge of the bims and the frist time we see the "bachelor" as they all really are. To me, it mocks reality dating tv. I also love Last Comic but fell asleep early on Tuesday and sadly, mnissed it. But I love stand up comics and a house full of them is likely a house full of smart, neurotic and highly observant people. Like me. And I loved AI for reasons I could not begin to explail bc I thought I would hate it and didnt watch the first season. I dont know how I even ended up watching the second I have not tried to watch any of the rest of the shows and wont. After all, I am a kayak owner. Oh, and Blind Date is still the standard for reality dating . |
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I think you should post a pic of a bravissima doube dee bra tank top. Bc your double dees are so fb. and so you . |
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Explaining the white trash beer fad
June 22, 2003
The Marketing of No Marketing By ROB WALKER On a recent Saturday evening, about a hundred serious bicyclists, most of them young men, many tattooed and pierced and at least one wearing striped tights and a floral thrift-shop dress, arrived en masse at Alberta Park in northeast Portland, Ore. They gathered near a fenced-off hard-top court and, in teams of three, began a ''bike polo'' tournament. Almost all were bike messengers, about a third of them local (others from Seattle, San Francisco and elsewhere), and they lived up to the image of couriers as marginal, testosterone-charged troublemakers. They drank beer, smoked cigarettes and other things and yelled profane insults at each other. Also, they had a corporate sponsor. What appeared to be a party in the park was part of the West Side Invite, prizes for which were underwritten by a $1,750 contribution from the Pabst Brewing Company. Virtually no banners or signs announced this, and no one from Pabst showed up to glad-hand the bikers. Pabst Blue Ribbon -- P.B.R., as fans call it -- is currently enjoying a highly unlikely comeback. In 2002, sales of the beer, which had been sinking steadily since the 1970's, actually rose 5.3 percent. From the start of 2003 through April 20, supermarket beer sales are up another 9.4 percent. It is endorsed in ''The Hipster Handbook,'' a paperback dissection of cool, and is popping up in trendy bars from the Mission District to the Lower East Side. Sales in Chicago are up 134 percent. But the growth started and is most pronounced in Portland -- a city best known in the cosmology of beer as a haven for fancy microbrews -- where most agree that bike messengers have been in the P.B.R. vanguard. The lowbrow brew has risen to the No. 5-ranked beer in town and is still the fastest-growing of the top-50 domestic beer brands. In local supermarket sales it trails only Coors Light, Budweiser, Bud Light and Corona. Of course, not even bike messengers can drink enough beer to explain this. So what does? At first, even the people at Pabst -- which has barely advertised for more than 20 years -- were at a loss. But any trend with even the slightest commercial implications in the American marketplace immediately becomes subject to two iron laws. The first is that it will attract a swarm of consultants, marketers and journalists, trying to deduce the trend's origins. Second, efforts will be made to amplify and prolong the trend, profitably. The most interesting theory is that P.B.R.'s fan base grew not despite the lack of marketing support, but because of it. The beer industry as a whole spends about $1 billion a year to pitch its product. Most of this advertising, through huge TV campaigns and relentless logo-slathering, is devoted to image-building (not surprising, since Consumer Reports concluded a few years ago that even devoted fans of the megasellers Budweiser and Miller Genuine Draft could rarely tell them apart by taste). Long-neglected P.B.R. had no image. It was just there. Understanding why some people might find this attractive is easy. The hard part is figuring how to exploit it. The answer that the Pabst Brewing Company has come up with involves cash payments to rowdy bike messengers. And the brewer may be onto something. Neal Stewart was 27 when he joined Pabst as a divisional marketing manager in the summer of 2000. Stodgy Pabst was in the process of shutting down its breweries and contracting its actual beer-making (formula preserved) primarily to the Miller Brewing Company. P.B.R. was not hot. In 2001 sales would fall, yet again, to less than a million barrels, its lowest figure in decades and 90 percent below its 1975 peak. There were minor signs of a new constituency -- Kid Rock wearing a P.B.R. belt buckle, a bunch of top snowboarders in Utah running a ''Pabst Bowl'' on Super Bowl Sundays -- but for the most part Pabst was still focused on its stalwart 45-to-60 demographic. But a sales rep in Portland had noticed that ''these alternative people'' were ''starting to get into the brand,'' Stewart, now a baby-faced 29-year-old with blond-streaked hair and a snowboard on his office wall, told me. The rep, Stewart said, ''was as strait-laced as could be. He wasn't someone who really understood the culture.'' Pabst was still not targeting these drinkers. ''It was just a group of people who embraced the brand.'' So Stewart went to Portland, visiting bars like the Lutz Tavern near Reed College and the Ash Street Saloon, a bike-messenger hangout downtown. He learned that the kind of people who had ''embraced the brand'' were also the kind of people who detest marketing. But this was not necessarily bad news. He would walk in -- wearing street clothes, never a Pabst logo -- tell the bartender who he was and ''really just sit there,'' he said. ''The word would leak out -- 'Hey, the Pabst guy is here.''' He carried a bag of P.B.R. keychains and T-shirts. Stewart had once been a cog in the gigantic Anheuser-Busch marketing machine in St. Louis and had firsthand experience with barging up to drinkers and foisting trinkets on them. For the Pabst Guy in Portland, that wasn't necessary. ''I was mobbed,'' he says. The trend-explaining industry has mostly framed the rise of P.B.R. as part of an alleged ''retro-chic'' movement. Of course, iterations of retro-chic (Fiestaware, cocktail music, etc.) have bubbled through the culture for a decade or more now. A subset ''white trash'' theory links P.B.R. to Levi's (whose sales have actually fallen) and trucker hats (a fad that was revealed and snuffed out almost simultaneously, when Ashton Kutcher wore one on his MTV show, ''Punk'd''). One zeitgeistmeister has even suggested that P.B.R. drinkers were inspired by the blue-collar heroes of 9/11. A person who has put a lot of thought into P.B.R. is Alex Wipperfurth, of a San Francisco marketing boutique called Plan B, whose clients have included Napster and Doc Martens. He has a particular interest in brands whose identity is created not by their owners but by consumers. Plan B did a little consulting work for Pabst last year, and Wipperfurth includes P.B.R. in a book he's completing called ''Brand Hijack.'' To Wipperfurth, P.B.R., a long-withered brand, had few negative connotations. A false rumor that Pabst was about to go out of business (untrue) worked for some as a ''rallying cry.'' P.B.R.'s scarcity, and its cheapness, also helped make it an ''underground darling.'' The single key text in Neal Stewart's codification of the meaning of P.B.R. is the book ''No Logo,'' by the journalist Naomi Klein. Published in 2000, ''No Logo'' is about the incursion of brands and marketing into every sphere of public life, the bullying and rapacious mind-set that this trend represents and evidence of a grass-roots backlash against it, especially among young people. Klein's view is that this would feed a new wave of activists who targeted corporations. Stewart's view is that the book contains ''many good marketing ideas.'' He says it ''really articulated the feelings, the coming feelings, of the consumer out there: eventually people are gonna get sick of all this stuff'' -- all this marketing -- ''and say enough is enough.'' In these circumstances, the thinking goes, P.B.R. needs to stay neutral, ''always look and act the underdog'' and not worry about those who look down on the beer, presumably because they're snobs whose negative opinion only boosts its street cred. The Plan B analysis even says that P.B.R.'s embrace by punks, skaters and bike messengers make it a political, ''social protest'' brand. These ''lifestyle as dissent'' or ''consumption as protest'' constituencies are about freedom and rejecting middle-class mores, and ''P.B.R. is seen as a symbol and fellow dissenter.'' Eventually all of this sounds like satire, but the punch line is that it isn't really that far off from P.B.R.'s strategy. In theory, a company that discovers one of its products has started growing of its own accord could simply do nothing. But it's hard to do nothing. Especially for marketers. For P.B.R. it was clearly important to at least appear to be doing as little as possible. This is one reason that a traditional response to the discovery that ''alternative people'' were buying the beer in Portland -- taking out ads on local alt-rock stations -- was nixed. It's one reason that when Kid Rock's lawyer came sniffing around to work an endorsement deal, Pabst said no. It's one reason that the company has passed on the chance to back a major snowboarding event or to sponsor an extreme athlete. It's one reason that even upbeat five-year plans for where the brand may go envision no television advertising at all. When Stewart talks about the small-scale projects the brand has been involved in, he constantly uses words like ''organic'' and ''genuine'' and phrases like ''let the consumer lead the brand.'' All marketers do that, but it's striking how many of P.B.R.'s mini-relationships were initiated by the representative of some subculture approaching Pabst. Stewart didn't court the bike messengers of Portland; one of them approached him. Later he started hearing from messenger groups in New York and elsewhere. Other sponsorship requests were relayed to him through contacts at underground-ish magazines like Vice and Arthur. Each little sponsorship effort -- skateboard movie screenings, art galleries, independent publishers -- expands the network. P.B.R. was starting to sound like some kind of small-scale National Endowment for the Arts for young American outsider culture, which seemed pretty cool, although not quite a marketing strategy. But think back to the notion of P.B.R. as a somehow ''political'' brand. It's a cliche to say that political parties operate like marketers. But here it's marketing that is like politics. When Pabst provides direct support to the subcultures that first embraced P.B.R., it is shoring up its new base. The brewer still needs the swing voters -- beer buyers whose loyalty is up for grabs, and who may latch on to a hot-button brand -- and hopes that its conspicuously cool base will influence them. But without the base, the whole structure comes down. In April 2001, Pabst Brewing got a new C.E.O., Brian Kovalchuk, formerly the C.F.O. of Benetton, and the company's marketing department began to be overhauled. Last July Pabst hired a new vice president of marketing, Alan Willner, a 44-year-old Coors veteran. The temptation must have been overwhelming to do all the things marketers usually do when a product seems to be catching on -- a splashy new package design, ads full of glamorously ''edgy'' people, etc. But Pabst did none of it. Of course, one reason is that Pabst is a bit player in its industry, and the P.B.R. marketing budget is measly. Stewart reckons that a deal with Kid Rock -- maybe half a million to sign him up and another million promoting the association -- would have emptied his coffers for the year. Still, Willner seems concerned about the beer getting too trendy when he emphasizes how ''we're not overcommunicating false promises.'' No doubt what's on his mind is the third iron law of cultural trends: the backlash. You can tell Scott Proctor is a beer veteran -- he refers to bars as ''accounts.'' He spent years working for Oregon's Blitz-Weinhard before its brands were sold or discontinued and its brewery shut down in 1999. A few months ago Proctor joined Pabst as its Oregon sales manager. He remembers Pabst having ''a minute base'' in Portland -- four years ago the company had just 41 accounts there. Today the number is more than 10 times that. Proctor is 48, affable and openly baffled by the ''weird'' P.B.R. base. ''I've seen some different accounts than I would normally see, if I was gonna go have a beverage myself,'' he says. ''I had to open my mind a little bit.'' We visited the Lutz Tavern, a homey place with a pool table and an apple-green linoleum bar top. Slumming students here used to drink Blitz, now a defunct brand. But in 1999 the owner decided to start selling cans of Pabst for $1 (they cost the bar about 35 cents each) as a summer special. More than four years later, the sale hasn't ended, and P.B.R. is the bar's top seller. As ''Planet Claire'' by the B-52s played on the jukebox, the bartender and a few post-college-age patrons, all drinking cans of P.B.R., mulled the state of the brand. They promptly brought up the no-advertising thing, and while the subject of poseurs treating the beer as a fashion accessory came up, it didn't seem like much of a problem. Later, at the scruffy Ash Street Saloon, I met a 28-year-old named Phil Barnes, who recently went through four tattoo sessions to get a Pabst logo about a foot square burned into his back, which he showed me. ''Pabst is part of my subculture,'' he said, somewhat emphatically. ''It's the only beer I think about.'' He's a skateboarder, works as a cook and describes his peer group as ''punk rockers.'' A couple of weeks earlier, a local alternative paper, Willamette Week, ran a big picture of a guy drinking P.B.R. at the Lutz Tavern, with a blurb that mocked ''middle-class, college-educated, salaried Portland hipsters'' for drinking P.B.R., and raised the connection to Miller Brewing: ''It's totally not indie rock! So there!'' Barnes had given this a lot of thought, and had concluded that he did not care. ''The only thing that's going to stop me from drinking Pabst is when I die,'' he said. I also talked to the bike-polo crowd about this. Ryan Kelley, a mild-mannered guy who actually arranged the first P.B.R. sponsorship, allowed that the beer's newfound popularity was slightly annoying. ''But basically,'' he said, ''we're going to drink whatever beer costs a dollar.'' F">or a mass-market product, subcultures aren't enough. Pabst Blue Ribbon has about 2.5 percent of the beer market in Portland. But as Benj Steinman, editor of ''Beer Marketer's Insights,'' points out, it's only roughly one-half of 1 percent of the market in the United States as a whole, and its parent company's business is ''declining substantially.'' P.B.R. needs more swing voters. Summer is prime beer-selling season, and Pabst is trying a couple of new strategies. The Portland music licenser Rumblefish is arranging with indie bands in two other cities to issue both a P.B.R. CD compilation of their previously recorded music and a series of seven-inch vinyl singles, which will be given to the bands, to sell, give away or whatever they want. The idea is for Pabst to position itself as a supporter of local music, rather than chase endorsements from famous artists. Pabst has also hired a small Chicago marketing firm called Liquid Intelligence to help expand its network of contacts. ''Field marketing reps'' will be hired in Chicago and four other cities -- reps, Stewart says, ''who live in the cool neighborhood, who know people down at the tattoo parlor and the record store.'' Basically they'll help P.B.R. sponsor more small-scale events. Earlier I was assured by the author of ''The Hipster Handbook,'' Robert Lanham, that there is no sign of a backlash in New York either. (New York may or may not be the ultimate birthplace of new trends in American pop culture, but it is absolutely the ultimate birthplace of backlashes.) ''If Ashton Kutcher shows up on 'Punk'd' drinking a Pabst,'' Lanham mused, ''there might be a backlash.'' I mentioned the Kutcher Factor to Willner and suggested that he might want to start sending Kutcher free cases . . . of Miller High Life. On the side of every can of Pabst Blue Ribbon is a P.O. box in Milwaukee. Pabst does trace its roots to a brewery founded there in 1844. These days Pabst Brewing Company is based in San Antonio. In 1985, the brewery was bought by Paul Kalmanovitz, a self-made beer and real-estate baron. While other big brewers were spending to build national, image-based brands, Kalmanovitz's idea, apparently, was to buy up ailing ales, slash all associated costs and let them ''decline profitably.'' Kalmanovitz died in 1987; Pabst is owned by the charitable foundation he left behind, and its current portfolio of has-been brews includes Schlitz, Falstaff, Stroh's and Colt 45. Its top seller, with about 1 percent of the American beer market, is Old Milwaukee. Along the way, Pabst shuttered its Milwaukee brewery, eliminating nearly 250 jobs and touching off a legal battle over pension obligations to former workers. This might explain another quirk of the Pabst resurgence -- that it has radiated out from part of the country that had no particular historic tie to the brand. ''They really alienated people in Milwaukee,'' says Dennis E. Garrett, a marketing professor at Marquette University. In 2001, Pabst finalized its outsourcing deal with Miller, becoming a ''virtual brewer,'' as one executive put it at the time. Having virtually wiped out its blue-collar work force, Pabst now employs just 166 people, about half of them selling beer in the field, and the rest in the home office (exactly the kind of corporate future that ''No Logo'' was complaining about). Does it matter? I actually doubt that a single P.B.R. drinker who hears the history of Pabst Brewing will give up the beer as a result. P.B.R. may be a ''political'' brand but not in a 1960's sense of political, which assumes a kind of zero-sum ideological game. In this politics, symbolic solidarity with the blue-collar heartland trumps the real thing. (Actually, the brand's growth is occurring in urban centers; it's losing share in the rural Midwest.) And you could argue that no-benefits line cooks, bike messengers and temps add up to new blue-collar equivalents. But perhaps the way to think of it is that the P.B.R. base is less concerned with protesting boorish and heartless corporate behavior than with protesting boorish and invasive corporate sales tactics. The connection to Miller seemed more potentially damaging to such an ideology than the elimination of a few hundred pension-bearing jobs. (How many recent college grads expect a pension nowadays?) It's very much a politics of individual freedom, of rejecting overt pitches and elite tastes. Pabst did not set out to fill that niche, but it's well positioned to do so. Turns out that P.B.R. actually does have an image, but it's an image that its consumer base can hardly complain about, because they're the ones who created it. That's what makes it perfect. Rob Walker, a columnist for Slate, writes often about marketing. |
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The life cycle of trends is now so short that fads are over before they make it from their point of origin.
I am trend-free in oh-three. I no longer care which Japanese designer I've never heard of or seen in any fashion mag my brother wears. I don't carry the cell phone everyone uses on film sets in TCOTU that won't be released here until 2004. I am not sure which NY indie band will break through in 2005 for a minute and a half before they return to playing bars in the East Village. I tell you what: trends are SO over. E/O |
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Tired of Law? Try stripping.
From an article in this morning's SF Chronicle about exotic dancers who recently bought out their own strip club: One dancer is a lawyer. Delinqua said the woman always wanted to be an artist, and practicing law "made her feel like a whore." Now she dances naked for a living. Here's a link to the whole story: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...6/BA280244.DTL So what say ye, is this whitebread? Seven |
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Crap. Utter mindless drivel in a hip package. Agreed, however, that Curb Your Enthusiasm is simply fantastic. As to LOTR, Matrix, Hulk etc... people who rush out to see those things crack me up. I wonder if they stay at home and play Dungeons and Dragons when they don't have sci fi fantasies to drool over. If its got wizards, unicorns, warlocks, elves, or any form of forest nymph, faery or goblin in it, I ain't watching it. Star Wars is about as far as I go with the sci-fi nonsense. S(my kids will never read the Ring trilogy)D |
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