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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Incidentally, this letter from Wilson to two Senators clears up many of charges Slave and others have made against him.

Ty, it ain't a good idea to offer a letter written by the accused professing his innocence, after the charges have been filed (or even before), as evidence of his innocence. I'm just sayin'.

Penske_Account

07-15-2005 07:41 PM

Wilson

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ty, it ain't a good idea to offer a letter written by the accused professing his innocence, after the charges have been filed (or even before), as evidence of his innocence. I'm just sayin'.

I will put more credence in this guy's claims of innocence as soon as he starts putting in some time and effourt trying to find the real killer.

Like OJ.

ltl/fb

07-15-2005 08:01 PM

"Hack" Wilson keeps talking

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
You lie! You know you want to have dinner with me!

I have confidence in our ability to keep the conversation focused on food, beverages, sex, and what other people are wearing. Although you are ostensibly straight, I think it would be sort of like the dinners the women on SaTC had with the short balding gay guy. Except cattier.

Penske_Account

07-15-2005 08:09 PM

"Hack" Wilson keeps talking

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I have confidence in our ability to keep the conversation focused on food, beverages, sex, and what other people are wearing. Although you are ostensibly straight, I think it would be sort of like the dinners the women on SaTC had with the short balding gay guy. Except cattier.

I am not bald.

Tyrone Slothrop

07-15-2005 08:24 PM

Wilson

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I know all of you are too cool to read the letter, but I think he does an effective job of addressing some of bullshit about which he has allegedly lied.

Diane_Keaton

07-15-2005 09:33 PM

Frozen

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's moving for me. Get yourself a frappucino.

No, the dino is not moving, darling.

For the weekend, I bring you the wedding photo of this couple.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/tv...050523_wpn.jpg

It's too bad she couldn't marry him before he became a Fat Samoan and was still a hot-looking 6th grader.

Shape Shifter

07-15-2005 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
So you think it is smug self superiority to believe that all human being on this planet deserve basic human rights. The southern slave owners always referred to the norther abolitionists as smug, self superior and self righteous. Of course they were avoiding the point.

Just answer the question:

Do you believe having a say in the government that governs you is a human right?

Do you believe Arabs deserve basic human rights?

If you answer yes to those:

Do you think it is bigoted to want to impose "human rights" on arab nations?

Do you think it is bigoted to say that arabs don't need or want "human rights?

This sort of talk might get you the medal at the 8th Grade "Why Democracy Is Good" speech contest at the VFW post, but it doesn't fly very far as a practical solution to the problems in the ME. While the spread of democracy is the only solution to these problems in the long run, it is naive to believe they want it imposed on them at the point of a gun by the US. Remember your point about peace -- it has to be achieved. Same thing with democracy.

sgtclub

07-15-2005 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This sort of talk might get you the medal at the 8th Grade "Why Democracy Is Good" speech contest at the VFW post, but it doesn't fly very far as a practical solution to the problems in the ME. While the spread of democracy is the only solution to these problems in the long run, it is naive to believe they want it imposed on them at the point of a gun by the US. Remember your point about peace -- it has to be achieved. Same thing with democracy.

How ironic that Ayn's words are being used in this context.

Spanky

07-16-2005 12:26 AM

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What does this mean? This is such a weak attempt to divert from the issue we were dicussing. If you can't make a logical argument, then let it go. This pathetic attempt at obscuring the issue fools no one. You refuse to answer the questions because you know that these questions demonstrate that your position is ridiculous. But instead of facing that, you say that these questions are something an eight grader would come up with. Well that would be an eighth grader that put a lot more thought into this issue than you have. Why don't you answer these simple eigth grade questions.

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter While the spread of democracy is the only solution to these problems in the long run, it is naive to believe they want it imposed on them at the point of a gun by the US. Remember your point about peace -- it has to be achieved. Same thing with democracy.

You said that is was bigoted or racist to try and impose democracy on the middle ease. Now all of a sudden you have admited that Democracy is good for the Middle East in the long run. Just admit that your statement was stupid and lets move on. But don't try and pretend we were arguing about something else. We were arguing about your statement - nothing else.

sgtclub

07-16-2005 12:26 AM

We've Fallen So Low

So I'm sitting here on a Friday night, killing time and waiting to go out, and I go back and read some of the posts from this board from a couple of years ago. Very, very interesting. Not only were we all a whole lot more substantive back then, but we also had more respect for one another. Even Billmore and Ty were exchanging on fairly respectful terms. And Ted Kennedy was no where to be found. I miss those times.

Penske_Account

07-16-2005 01:59 AM

We've Fallen So Low

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Originally posted by sgtclub
So I'm sitting here on a Friday night, killing time and waiting to go out, and I go back and read some of the posts from this board from a couple of years ago. Very, very interesting. Not only were we all a whole lot more substantive back then, but we also had more respect for one another. Even Billmore and Ty were exchanging on fairly respectful terms. And Ted Kennedy was no where to be found. I miss those times.

Sheesh, way to have my back Club. Do you remember ken pornstarr?

eta: [hi ty!]very nice syrahs tonight[/hi ty!]

Tyrone Slothrop

07-16-2005 03:19 AM

We've Fallen So Low

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Politics in this country is more polarized. It's not an accident, and it's not a good thing.

eta: [yo, P.]I had a Seghesio wine tonight that was from Italy, not California -- very odd [eata: in the sense that I thought I was getting a California wine, and didn't], but tasty.[/yo, P.]

Shape Shifter

07-16-2005 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Spanky
What does this mean? This is such a weak attempt to divert from the issue we were dicussing. If you can't make a logical argument, then let it go. This pathetic attempt at obscuring the issue fools no one. You refuse to answer the questions because you know that these questions demonstrate that your position is ridiculous. But instead of facing that, you say that these questions are something an eight grader would come up with. Well that would be an eighth grader that put a lot more thought into this issue than you have. Why don't you answer these simple eigth grade questions.

You said that is was bigoted or racist to try and impose democracy on the middle ease. Now all of a sudden you have admited that Democracy is good for the Middle East in the long run. Just admit that your statement was stupid and lets move on. But don't try and pretend we were arguing about something else. We were arguing about your statement - nothing else.

Look, Spank, I don't really think anything substantive is being discussed. I never said it was bigoted or racist to impose democracy on the ME (though it may be unwise). I was trying to make a subtle point, and I missed, apparently. When it gets to this point, I've found it's best to just let it drop.