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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 376413)

I've said it before - push them into Egypt and led the Arabs who created the problem deal with it.

John Bolton apparently agrees with you. It is an interesting thought, but probably can't happen. And really, the only reason it might work is if the Egyptian government could be effective in taking the same approach to Hamas that it does to the Mulsim Brotherhood (i.e., jail, kill or disappear them). I'm not sure that is what we should be advocating that as the way forward.

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 376413)

I've said it before - push them into Egypt and led the Arabs who created the problem deal with it.

I can agree with that.

All over yo' face(book).

"We have to do it in the Facebook, with the Twittering, the different technology that young people are using today."

-- RNC Superfreak Mike Duncan, on how to rebuild the GOP.

Re: All over yo' face(book).

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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 376453)

"We have to do it in the Facebook, with the Twittering, the different technology that young people are using today."

-- RNC Superfreak Mike Duncan, on how to rebuild the GOP.

D.O.A. What a bunch of loosers.

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 376413)

I've said it before - push them into Egypt and led the Arabs who created the problem deal with it.

Palestinians are not Egyptians, and I'm not sure why you would say that the Arabs created the problem. Presumably because they had the bad judgment to be ruled by the Turks and then the British?

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 376435)

John Bolton apparently agrees with you. It is an interesting thought, but probably can't happen.

It won't work because neither Egypt nor Jordan want to try to rule over restive Palestinians, nor do the Palestinians want to be ruled by Egypt and Jordan. Other than that, it's a fantastic plan.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 376475)

It won't work because neither Egypt nor Jordan want to try to rule over restive Palestinians, nor do the Palestinians want to be ruled by Egypt and Jordan. Other than that, it's a fantastic plan.

Actually, those aren't the only problems, but yeah.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 376475)

It won't work because neither Egypt nor Jordan want to try to rule over restive Palestinians, nor do the Palestinians want to be ruled by Egypt and Jordan. Other than that, it's a fantastic plan.

Other than that, and the fact that it's proposed by John Bolton, it's a fantastic plan.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 376475)

It won't work because neither Egypt nor Jordan want to try to rule over restive Palestinians, nor do the Palestinians want to be ruled by Egypt and Jordan. Other than that, it's a fantastic plan.

Marc Lynch, Foreign Policy:

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John Bolton proposes in today's Washington Post giving up on Palestinian governance and a two-state solution, instead opting for a "three-state approach" in which "Gaza is returned to Egyptian control and the West Bank in some configuration reverts to Jordanian sovereignty."

If a zombie can be defined as a "reanimated corpse," then Bolton's proposal certainly fits the bill. This concept reappears like clockwork whenever there's an Israeli-Palestinian crisis. Some see it as a magic bullet to negate Palestinian nationalism or at least redirect Palestinian ire towards their new/old Arab rulers. Others just can't imagine the emergence of any Palestinian leadership they find acceptable (probably a safe bet) and prefer the predictable dictatorships to the East and South. Most recently, in October, Israeli Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Giora Eiland's Washington Institute for Near East Policy paper proposed a "trilateral" solution (more discussion here).

Variants on this idea pop up so routinely, in fact, that it might be more concerning if the dog didn't bark. So thanks to Bolton for that. But it's still a terrible idea. Leaving aside all the practical impediments, who wants it (other than Bolton and his pals)?

* Not Jordanians. Since severing ties with the West Bank in 1988, Jordan settled on a consensus position for dealing with contentious issues of Jordanian-Palestinian relations: "Jordan is Jordan and Palestine is Palestine". There is no Jordan option because Jordanians of all stripes deeply oppose it and the Hashemites see no benefit in it. King Abdullah has stated repeatedly that "the Jordan option is out of the question."

* Not Egyptians. The Mubarak regime has been doing everything possible to separate from Gaza, not to return to it. As Steve Cook recently pointed out, there is no upside for the Egyptian regime in this crisis. Why would a sclerotic regime obsessed with the "threat" of the Muslim Brotherhood at home and consumed with a difficult transition from an aging President take on responsibility for an enraged and devasted Gaza population which blames Egypt for enforcing the blockade on behalf of Israel?

* Not Palestinians. It's true that a lot of Palestinians are deeply frustrated with both Fatah and Hamas, and despair of their political institutions. But that does not mean that they are ready to abandon their national identity or will willingly accede to Egyptian or Jordanian rule. In a public opinion survey in September, two-thirds of Palestinians opposed reunification with Jordan... and it's probably better not to ask Gazans what they think about Egypt these days.

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Originally Posted by sidd finch (Post 376480)

other than that, and the fact that it's proposed by john bolton, it's a fantastic plan.

roman maroney deported to sweden
claims he's not from there

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 376484)

roman maroney deported to sweden
claims he's not from there

Just when I was wondering what Atticus would be like if stoned, the answer arrives.

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 376487)

Just when I was wondering what Atticus would be like if stoned, the answer arrives.

You lousey corksucker. You have violated my farging rights.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 376473)

Palestinians are not Egyptians, and I'm not sure why you would say that the Arabs created the problem.

No, but they are more or less Jordanians. And the Arab leaguers created the problem by not following the 47 partition plan and going to war. How many second chances do they get?

Gore in 2000 or Coleman in 2009?

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"Something greater than expediency is at stake here.Democracy is not a machine. Sometimes it's messy and inconvenient, and reaching the best conclusion is never quick because speed is not the first objective, fairness is."

And with that Coleman decides that the election should be decided in court, slinging every possible allegation for good measure.

I support these picks. Good on them.