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Pretty Little Flower 03-30-2016 10:37 AM
Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499889)
Summers wants to start banning certain bills. This is an unnecessary legislative dictate troubling to anyone who believes we have a right to transact beyond the scope of govt oversight.
Like, hellOOOooooooo, do you, like, even realize that it's the GOVERNMENT who decides what bills to print in the first place. And that it's the GOVERNMENT who then prints those bills? Or did you think money came from the Benjamin Fairy?????

ThurgreedMarshall 03-30-2016 10:50 AM
Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499889)
This is an unnecessary legislative dictate troubling to anyone who believes we have a right to transact beyond the scope of govt oversight.
Whatever did you and your parents do when they eliminated the thousand dollar bill? I assume you spent a few months in a bunker to avoid falling pieces of sky?

TM

Adder 03-30-2016 11:04 AM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 499897)
I am feeling a bit more cheerful today. Trump, upon realizing that he will likely not receive the required delegates, is really starting to melt down a bit. Even Ann Coulter has called him "mental".

My good spirits are precipitated by yesterday's news that Rubio has taken action to affirmatively remove himself from the CA ballot, which should hurt Trump. The polling is tight and generally, Cruz has overperformed and Trump has underperformed the polling by roughly 4-5 points each. Winning CA would be huge. That and a win in Wisconsin for Cruz, which seems pretty certain now with a Scott Walker has endorsed and Trump has appeared typically idiotic in interviews with local radio hosts (which he would never had done if he had competent campaign advisers and management), means that Trump will not get the nomination on the first ballot.

Rubio has further contacted the states where he won delegates and has not released them. Where delegates are usually free to vote their preference after their candidate drops out, Rubio has acted to keep is delegates bound to him on the first ballot, which further hurts Trump. Cruz has been active in states like SC, installing his people as delegates which can only be picked from people who attended the last party convention. He is clearly out-maneuvering the Trump campaign.

While I am a bit more confident that Trump won't win the nomination outright, I do not have words for the hatred and revulsion I feel for John Kasich at this time.
Yay! We might get the actually crazy one instead of the one who maybe kinda sorta is just pretending to be crazy (but who knows for sure)!

Meanwhile, I'm feeling pretty good because either Cruz or Trump will get absolutely smoked in the general election.

What's with the Kasich revulsion? Seems like he should be pretty much up your alley. Or are you buying the silly "moderate" spin too?

ThurgreedMarshall 03-30-2016 11:11 AM
Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499893)
The idea is that the spread of digital technology and connectivity means that it should be getting increasingly cheaper to provide increasingly real-time payments. Things that used to be special should slowly become commodity goods, even payments. Of course, incumbents don't like this and try to use their market power to keep it from happening.
Non-responsive.

TM

Hank Chinaski 03-30-2016 11:15 AM
Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499899)
Whatever did you and your parents do when they eliminated the thousand dollar bill? I assume you spent a few months in a bunker to avoid falling pieces of sky?

TM
I wish they'd bring back the $100,000 bill. When I pay myself my bi-weekly bonii my wallet is so fat now that I'm afraid of attracting muggers:confused:

Hank Chinaski 03-30-2016 11:18 AM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 499900)

Meanwhile, I'm feeling pretty good because either Cruz or Trump will get absolutely smoked in the general election.

What's with the Kasich revulsion? Seems like he should be pretty much up your alley. Or are you buying the silly "moderate" spin too?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.html

Trump getting smoked by Hil, and it would get worse, not better. Cruz close, and will get closer if the nominee. Kasich smoking Hil.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-30-2016 11:31 AM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499885)
He does not support repealing the ACA. He doesn't like it, but has conceded it's not going anywhere, and so has embraced it in Ohio. He's also not in favor of undoing gay marriage. That's bullshit.

Yes, he's got some pro-business views on the courts. But so does every conservative.

Defunding PP is a vacant policy plank for all GOP candidates. It's like HWBush saying he wanted to undo Roe. No GOP candidate actually wants to to do that (except Cruz, who is a psychotic imbecile). It's just some shit you say to the stupid religious freaks.

But yes -- it's disturbing that he felt the need to prove his lunatic bona fides by trying to seriously defund PP at the state level. That criticism is valid.
Look, his own website says he favors repeal of ACA. Kasich has common ground with many of these lunatics, he's just not a firebrand in his approach to advocating for them.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-30-2016 11:34 AM
Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 499898)
Like, hellOOOooooooo, do you, like, even realize that it's the GOVERNMENT who decides what bills to print in the first place. And that it's the GOVERNMENT who then prints those bills? Or did you think money came from the Benjamin Fairy?????
Keep your gubmint away from my money!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-30-2016 11:38 AM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 499897)
While I am a bit more confident that Trump won't win the nomination outright, I do not have words for the hatred and revulsion I feel for John Kasich at this time.
This is what I love about today's Republican party.

Sidd Finch 03-30-2016 11:49 AM
Re: Trump/Sanders Voters
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 499886)

Wow, this Molotov sounds like a real character. A thin-skinned, xenophobic, megalomaniacal bully who was willing to tell whatever lie, no matter how absurd, to avoid admitting to his darker actions and beliefs.

Was his wife hot?

sebastian_dangerfield 03-30-2016 12:19 PM
Re: Trump/Sanders Voters
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 499892)
I'm just trying to enforce a minimum standard mental discipline here. But I'm not an ogre and don't like to pile on, so I am going to let slip the fact that I don't think you know what all the terms you used in your post mean.
I'll let slip the fact that other than to give me deserved shit for mangling "Malatov" (I could plead Belgian beer, but honestly I think it might be brain damage), your post said nothing.

Don't get me wrong -- you raise a mildly amusing comparison. And you demonstrate a fast Wikipedia finger. But that reply adds little to the back and forth TM and I were having.

Substitute "hand grenade" for the apparently too general use of "Molotov cocktail" in my post and then offer a reply.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-30-2016 12:28 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 499904)
Look, his own website says he favors repeal of ACA. Kasich has common ground with many of these lunatics, he's just not a firebrand in his approach to advocating for them.
Cruz would actually try to repeal the ACA. Kasich has said, numerous times, that while he favors its repeal, such a thing is impossible, so it's better just to accept it and work with it. That's significant.

I don't know how you cannot see enormous daylight between Kasich and a full on psychopath like Cruz. I can't do the compare and contrast thing with Trump because I don't think Trump even knows what he believes, or would do in office.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-30-2016 12:46 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499909)
Cruz would actually try to repeal the ACA. Kasich has said, numerous times, that while he favors its repeal, such a thing is impossible, so it's better just to accept it and work with it. That's significant.

I don't know how you cannot see enormous daylight between Kasich and a full on psychopath like Cruz. I can't do the compare and contrast thing with Trump because I don't think Trump even knows what he believes, or would do in office.
There is indeed daylight between the Buckley faction (neo-fascism with good spelling and diction and a bit of due process) and the Cruz faction (screw the due process, screw them all, dam the spelling).

Just not on the substantive issues. (Cue debate over when process becomes substance, concede point, move on).

SEC_Chick 03-30-2016 12:51 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 499900)

What's with the Kasich revulsion? Seems like he should be pretty much up your alley. Or are you buying the silly "moderate" spin too?

Kasich's nice guy/only adult in the room spiel is all an act. He's a pretty well known a-hole in GOP circles. Even among other career politicians. That's saying something. For an example, see his account of his 2008 traffic stop:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/nTf_qyRXhxk

He claimed a fake Romney endorsement in Utah, when Romney was stumping for Cruz. He did not get enough signatures to get on the ballot in Pennsylvania and is there only by the graces of a college kid Rubio supporter who dropped the challenge when Rubio suspended. He also did not get enough signatures to get on the ballot in Illinois, which personally offends my rule-following ways. When Rubio encouraged his Ohio supporters to vote Kasich, he received a big middle finger in return in Florida. His asserts that he likes to keep religion out of things only until he invokes it in expanding Medicaid telling those that disagree that they are un-Christian.

He is well liked by the people on this board. Democrats. Is it that hard to understand why many Republicans dislike him? Obamacare, path to citizenship, Common Core, assault weapons ban -- he's on the non-Republican side of a lot of issues. Of the original 17 candidates, there was a dozen of them I would get behind. Kasich wasn't one of them.

Kasich needs about 2000% of the remaining delegates to win. He's won exactly one state and gets offended when confronted with, you know, math. He thinks he can win on a subsequent ballot while there will likely be riots in Cleveland (courtesy of Trump supporters). Heck, he came in 4th place after Rubio in Nevada a week after Rubio dropped out. Given the impossibility of him winning, he seems to almost intentionally spoiling the #NeverTrump movement. A vote for Kasich is a vote for Trump.

Adder 03-30-2016 12:57 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 499911)
Kasich's nice guy/only adult in the room spiel is all an act. He's a pretty well known a-hole in GOP circles. Even among other career politicians.
Yeah, I've heard that.

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He is well liked by the people on this board.
He is?


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