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ThurgreedMarshall 06-30-2003 11:14 AM

Avatar alert: Coltrane
 
Don't remember what yours looks like, but you may like this one:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...hn_ballads.gif

Thurgreed(i just give and give and give...)Marshall

ThurgreedMarshall 06-30-2003 11:33 AM

reality show quiz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
What reality show should you be on?
you're destined for Fear Factor.

Fuck. I thought I would get Amazing Race.

TM

ThrashersFan 06-30-2003 11:37 AM

That's one way to get rid of all TV
 
European Union commissioners are looking to ban television programs that depict women in stereotypical roles and all advertising that does not “respect human dignity,” reports the Financial Times.

A draft of the new law obtained by the Times says that while respecting freedom of expression, sex discrimination and affronts to human dignity should be banned from media and advertising. An explanatory note says: "The purpose of this provision is to avoid throughout all forms of mass media all stereotypical portrayals of women and men, as well as any projection of unacceptable images of men and women affecting human dignity and decency in advertisements."


Which leaves what programs to watch????????????????????

:wtf:

robustpuppy 06-30-2003 11:43 AM

Reality destiny
 
robustpuppy, you're destined for Survivor:

If you're going to put yourself on display for the world to see, you might as well get paid! That's right, your show is Survivor, the Super Bowl of reality shows. Okay, so technically, you'll only be pocketing $650,000 after taxes, but that's pretty good coin for a little camping trip.


I'm surprised. I thought I'd get the Real World.

purse junkie 06-30-2003 11:44 AM

That's one way to get rid of all TV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
European Union commissioners are looking to ban television programs that depict women in stereotypical roles and all advertising that does not “respect human dignity,” reports the Financial Times.

Which leaves what programs to watch????????????????????

:wtf:
Ummm, maybe "Teletubbies"? They're not human...

P(but then, they *are* an affront to human dignity)J

greatwhitenorthchick 06-30-2003 11:45 AM

reality show quiz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
At least we know it is possible for someone to get something other than Road Rules. I was beginning to feel like a schill for Mtv.
I got Survivor. I think because I like to go camping. But not with a bunch of obnoxious yahoos.

I also watched WPT after stumbling on the travel channel. I liked the winner's little skippy dance at the end.

baltassoc 06-30-2003 11:46 AM

A black fly in your chardonnay
 
I just came across this interesting article on irony, in which the author describes the misuse of the term "irony," and make clear why this misuse is not in fact ironic, but rather just stupid.

Sparklehorse 06-30-2003 12:13 PM

Slate on Metrosexuals
 
Slate, jumping off the NYTimes piece, also has something posted on metrosexuality. It borders on beating a dead horse to post but I loved this line: You can be girly and a pig, watch a Pamela Anderson cartoon while doing your nails.

taxwonk 06-30-2003 12:16 PM

I'm hurt
 
Look, Skinny. I don't care if you call me old. I am. I don't care if you accuse me of ogling young coeds, even if you're too fucking assjack stupid to spell the word correctly. I don't even care if you call me a buzz kill.

But I do not think I'm forever young, asshat. I am old. I like it. It gives me perspective. It gives me judgement. It reduces the time I have to spend on my hair. Best of all, it allows me to ignore stupid shit that the younger crowd thinks is so fucking important. Like appletinis, big ass clunky shoes that look amazingly like what janitors wear, dating in general, and worrying about whatever restaurant is trendy at the moment.

Call me a Peter Pan again, and I'll get ahold of your Mama and she'll have your ass chicken hawking in Times Square all summer vacation, you little piece of shit.

Love,

Taxwonk

ThurgreedMarshall 06-30-2003 12:22 PM

I'm hurt
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Look, Skinny. I don't care if you call me old. I am. I don't care if you accuse me of ogling young coeds, even if you're too fucking assjack stupid to spell the word correctly. I don't even care if you call me a buzz kill.

But I do not think I'm forever young, asshat. I am old. I like it. It gives me perspective. It gives me judgement. It reduces the time I have to spend on my hair. Best of all, it allows me to ignore stupid shit that the younger crowd thinks is so fucking important. Like appletinis, big ass clunky shoes that look amazingly like what janitors wear, dating in general, and worrying about whatever restaurant is trendy at the moment.

Call me a Peter Pan again, and I'll get ahold of your Mama and she'll have your ass chicken hawking in Times Square all summer vacation, you little piece of shit.

Love,

Taxwonk
Awesome. A total shot in the dark on my part and I get this kind of reaction. I still got it, baby!

But if you're going to correct me on the spelling of "coed," learn how to spell "judgment."

Thurgreed(i just wanted to include you since I haven't insulted you in so long. besides, peter pan looks young -- you're more like peter pan's great uncle)Marshall

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 12:23 PM

reality show quiz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
ThrashersFan, you're destined for American Idol

Stars aren't born they're created — just ask the Monkees. All you need is the big break and American Idol is it. Whether it was an impromptu serenade in the school cafeteria or the business presentation-turned-standup routine, you've always been a performer at heart.


Fuck them, that is so not me. I am a brainiac who would rather be shot in the head than speak in front of people. American Idol? sheesh.

Edited to say that I think I now understand this a bit more. Everyone else got chosen for Road Rules and I got AI because I don't play well with others. If that is why the quizmaster chose AI for me I will have to retract my statement above (not apologize though, still holding onto that in case there is a God) and say that this is right the fuck on target.
OK, TF, looks like I'll be on AI with you. This really is a stupid quiz because no one has agreed with their results. Personally, I can't sing. Never could. I hate the recording industry (tying themes together) and I would hate being on stage. Looks like we'll be up there with stage fright together - and I promise not to dye my hair pink and wear "body inappropriate" clothing.
Maybe I was chosen because of the aversion to camping answers to those questions.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-30-2003 12:33 PM

Spooky, I dare ya to flame PLF
 
Well, Spooky, you're not alone. The following makes no sense at all:

Greedy, Greedy, you're destined for Fear Factor

"What a wuss, I could totally do that." Of course you could, that's why your reality show is Fear Factor.

You're the fearless type — always the one jumping off the highest rock, riding the biggest wave, taking the biggest dare. You are fiercely competitive, most likely to turn a nice dinner into an eating contest. Sure it scares your friends when you play chicken on a two-lane highway, but it's good training for your reality show debut. Read more about your reality show...



So, Spooky, I guess I'll see you on the show.

Anne Elk 06-30-2003 12:33 PM

reality show quiz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I was fascinated by the final of the world poker tour, which was replayed this weekend (remarkable final hand). But it's like reality shows -- it's a lot more fun watching other people screw up.

Query about the WPT: How boring is it for the studio audience? On TV, we get to see the hole cards, but surely the audience can't see those, lest they gasp when a pair of aces comes out (or whatever). Seeing only the flop (if they can see that), surely doesn't make for compelling viewing.
I watched part of it this weekend. How do they know what cards the players have in their hands?

It is fascinating, but I need to have a better understanding of the lingo and the rules of the game before I can truly appreciate the skill involved. I loved the foreign guy with the Walkman, singing along to his tunes in Spanish.

fufu 06-30-2003 12:36 PM

reality show quiz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Also road rules. I guess bc I said I like road trips?
I indicated that I liked road trips and eMode decided I should be on the Bachelor show.

evenodds 06-30-2003 12:36 PM

New Magazine for Gambling Metrosexual FBers
 
The LA Times reports on the new JAQK magazine:

JAQK (that's jack, ace, queen, and king) mag, due out next spring. His target reader is a gambling guy who likes to spend -- not bank -- his winnings. "I can see us doing stories on traveling in the south of France on 5,000 euros a day," says a JAQK editor, "or taking a two-week trip on the Trans-Siberian Railway or visiting all the best martini bars in the world."

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/s...w29jun29.story

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 12:53 PM

Newsflash - headbanger is a very old term
 
On the other hand - McJob? Frankenfood? Is this in current usage enough for dictionary inclusion?

SPRINGFIELD, Mass., June 30 — A former dot-commer working a McJob was listening to some headbangers while laying out the last of his dead presidents for longnecks and some less than heart-healthy Frankenfood. Confused? Consult the new edition of the Collegiate Dictionary from the folks at Merriam-Webster.
ONCE A DECADE, Merriam-Webster updates its best-selling dictionary. The 11th edition, available in bookstores Tuesday, includes 10,000 new words and more than 100,000 new meanings and revisions among its 225,000 definitions.
Pop culture remains a vibrant source of new words, with such additions as “headbanger” (defined as both a hard rock musician and a fan), “dead presidents” (paper currency), “McJob” (low paying and dead-end work), “Frankenfood” (genetically engineered food) and “longneck” (beer served in a bottle with a long neck).
Some of the new words have been a longtime getting the widespread assimilation that merits a move from the unabridged dictionary to the Collegiate. The citation file on the Yiddish exclamation “oy,” for example, dates back to the immigrant waves of the 1890s. Others have zoomed into the language with the speed of the Internet.
Oy, get back to your McJob - full story here

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-30-2003 12:59 PM

New Magazine for Gambling Metrosexual FBers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
The LA Times reports on the new JAQK magazine:

JAQK (that's jack, ace, queen, and king) mag, due out next spring. His target reader is a gambling guy who likes to spend -- not bank -- his winnings. "I can see us doing stories on traveling in the south of France on 5,000 euros a day," says a JAQK editor, "or taking a two-week trip on the Trans-Siberian Railway or visiting all the best martini bars in the world."

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/s...w29jun29.story
E5000 a day is a serious vacation. I wonder if they'll do the article about the guy who has to hitchhike back to LA from the south of France, because he blew all his vacation money in Monte Carlo on day 2.

I also like this tidbit:

JAQK will not be about physical risk, though — at least not about taking risks for the sheer adrenaline rush, for the thrill of living on the edge, close to danger. Skydiving, bungee-jumping and parasailing will find no place in JAQK.

"We're not interested in people who put their lives in peril for no real reason," says Mike Pesca, 31, the executive editor in charge of the Risk section of the magazine.


Lives in peril--who'd want to read about that? Money in peril-- That's a golden idea!

Isn't this Cigar Afficianado without a cover picture of a celebrity smoking a cigar?

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 06-30-2003 01:03 PM

Found Him!
 
MIA Chef has been spotted in Missouri:

http://www.ilovebacon.com/063003/thongs.jpg

Ollie (the "show me" state) Ramone

sebastian_dangerfield 06-30-2003 01:04 PM

I'm hurt
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk

But I do not think I'm forever young, asshat. I am old. I like it. It gives me perspective. It gives me judgement. It reduces the time I have to spend on my hair. Best of all, it allows me to ignore stupid shit that the younger crowd thinks is so fucking important. Like appletinis, big ass clunky shoes that look amazingly like what janitors wear, dating in general, and worrying about whatever restaurant is trendy at the moment.

Call me a Peter Pan again, and I'll get ahold of your Mama and she'll have your ass chicken hawking in Times Square all summer vacation, you little piece of shit.

Love,

Taxwonk
Classic post.

Those clunky shoes are not attractive or stylish - they are clown shoes and they look like shit with a suit. Nothing says "dumb kid" like a nitwit in a Hugo Boss suit and fat thick soled clunkers. Not only are those wheels reminiscent of what a janitor would wear, they are also similar to the sort of medically corrective shoes worn by the elderly, handicapped and mentally retarded. I find it perfectly fitting that Kenneth Cole and Ferragamo have made a mint selling shoes for the retarded to the crowd of people who tend to buy those clunky shoes.

Fruity "martini" = fruity drinker. I'll have a bourbon on the rocks, my wife can have the fucking appletini. If you have a penis and you need your booze lathered in fruit juice, you probably give great head.

Trendy restaurants make me thank god I never "clubbed." Although it is damn funny to watch what passes for Eurotrash in Philly.

str8outavannuys 06-30-2003 01:07 PM

Poker Free since July '03
 
Hey gang. So after a 12 hour marathon yesterday that included 2 tournaments and a live game (net result -$85), I've decided again that I'm a compulsive gambler and am completely giving up the bet. Anyone have any luck in kicking addictions? Last time I gave up gambling, it was for three years and I did it myself. I attended 2 Gamblers' Anonymous meetings but didn't care for the heavy Christian overtones.

Anyways, I think (hope) that announcing here that June 30, 2003 is my last day of gambling and might help me hold to it. Besides, who needs poker when one is gambling for much higher stakes by buying a house at the height of the hottest house market in Los Angeles history?

str8.

purse junkie 06-30-2003 01:11 PM

Fashion in the Dictionary
 
I'm sad that the word "comb-over" even needs to exist enough to be included in the new edition.

Gentlemen, please don't do it, ever. Because one of these days I will have an aggressive flash of sympathy and have to assault some sap and shave his head in the street rather'n let him continue to live that way.

P(tho' I know I needn't lecture the Board metrosexuals on this point)J

Shape Shifter 06-30-2003 01:24 PM

Poker Free since July '03
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys

Anyways, I think (hope) that announcing here that June 30, 2003 is my last day of gambling and might help me hold to it. Besides, who needs poker when one is gambling for much higher stakes by buying a house at the height of the hottest house market in Los Angeles history?

str8.
I bet you can't quit.

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 01:26 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Hey Leagl...Bill Frist says you're a criminal in your own home. You gonna take that? I know this seems like a topic for politics, but since he has a "comb-over" I thought it would be appropriate here. But move it if you'd like.

WASHINGTON, June 30 — The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supports a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States.
SEN. BILL FRIST, R-Tenn., said the Supreme Court’s decision last week on gay sex threatens to make the American home a place where criminality is condoned.
The court on Thursday threw out a Texas law that prohibited acts of sodomy between homosexuals in a private home, saying that such a prohibition violates the defendants’ privacy rights under the Constitution. The ruling invalidated the Texas law and similar statutes in 12 other states.
“I have this fear that this zone of privacy that we all want protected in our own homes is gradually — or I’m concerned about the potential for it gradually being encroached upon, where criminal activity within the home would in some way be condoned,” Frist told ABC’s “This Week.”
“And I’m thinking of — whether it’s prostitution or illegal commercial drug activity in the home — ... to have the courts come in, in this zone of privacy, and begin to define it gives me some concern.”
Asked whether he supported an amendment that would ban any marriage in the United States except a union of a man and a woman, Frist said: “I absolutely do, of course I do.
Do you really need to amend the constitution?

Atticus Grinch 06-30-2003 01:34 PM

Slate on Metrosexuals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
Slate, jumping off the NYTimes piece, also has something posted on metrosexuality. It borders on beating a dead horse to post but I loved this line: You can be girly and a pig, watch a Pamela Anderson cartoon while doing your nails.
Well, shit. If it's in Slate, it ain't counterculture any more. We need a hip new FB-cool term to describe metrosexuality, lest the coin lose its lustre by excessive prole handling.

I vote for "wax fruit."

purse junkie 06-30-2003 01:35 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Hey Leagl...Bill Frist says you're a criminal in your own home. You gonna take that? I know this seems like a topic for politics, but since he has a "comb-over" I thought it would be appropriate here. But move it if you'd like.

WASHINGTON, June 30 — The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supports a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States.
SEN. BILL FRIST, R-Tenn., said the Supreme Court’s decision last week on gay sex threatens to make the American home a place where criminality is condoned.
What an idiot. Threaten to make having jailbait mistresses on the side truly criminal and half the goddamned Congress'll have to back off. What is the freakin' fuss over this issue?

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 01:41 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
What an idiot. Threaten to make having jailbait mistresses on the side truly criminal and half the goddamned Congress'll have to back off. What is the freakin' fuss over this issue?
Apparently Bill's never had a "Lewinsky" or else he's not sure what all sodomy includes.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-30-2003 01:42 PM

Slate on Metrosexuals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Well, shit. If it's in Slate, it ain't counterculture any more. We need a hip new FB-cool term to describe metrosexuality, lest the coin lose its lustre by excessive prole handling.

I vote for "wax fruit."
I think being in the Chicago Trib is worse than Slate. Middle America knows about it now...

Atticus Grinch 06-30-2003 01:44 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
“I have this fear that this zone of privacy that we all want protected in our own homes is gradually — or I’m concerned about the potential for it gradually being encroached upon, where criminal activity within the home would in some way be condoned,” Frist told ABC’s “This Week.”
So well spoken.

But I'm still confused. What do we want protected "in our own homes"? I didn't realize Mr. Frist owned the home in which Mr. Lawrence was buggering Mr. Garner. Indeed, I thought that Mr. Lawrence owned the home. Perhaps Mr. Frist believes in communal ownership of property.*

Whatever it is, I'm sure it's well thought out, because you can't rise to a position of leadership in today's GOP on Christian demogoguery and illicit kitten vivisection alone.

*It's a well-known fact that homosexuals are always asking for special rights, like the right to own private property.

leagleaze 06-30-2003 01:53 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Hey Leagl...Bill Frist says you're a criminal in your own home. You gonna take that? I know this seems like a topic for politics, but since he has a "comb-over" I thought it would be appropriate here. But move it if you'd like.
Yeah well, I can't help it if he doesn't like it when I go down on my girlfriend(s). What does he want from me? Tickets to the show?

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 01:55 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
So well spoken.

But I'm still confused. What do we want protected "in our own homes"? I didn't realize Mr. Frist owned the home in which Mr. Lawrence was buggering Mr. Garner. Indeed, I thought that Mr. Lawrence owned the home. Perhaps Mr. Frist believes in communal ownership of property.*

Whatever it is, I'm sure it's well thought out, because you can't rise to a position of leadership in today's GOP on Christian demogoguery and illicit kitten vivisection alone.

*It's a well-known fact that homosexuals are always asking for special rights, like the right to own private property.
You're right. It is confusing. It sounds like he's saying that he is afraid that the zone of privacy is being encroached upon - in the same breath he wants the zone of privacy eliminated but just for homosexuals. If he's going after criminal activity in the home...what will become of my meth lab?

greatwhitenorthchick 06-30-2003 02:24 PM

gay marriage
 
I realize I could probably look this up, but one of you likely knows the answer to this - I had a request from a gay acquaintance the other day about nice hotels to stay in in Toronto, places to see etc. It seems he is planning a trip there (lives in NYC) to get married. I didn't ask him this, but will it do him any good here - would NY recognize a gay marriage that is legal in Canada but not here? It seems to me he would have to actually move there to get any of the legal benefits of being married.

I mean - my marriage took place there and is recognized here, but it's not a same sex marriage.

NotFromHere 06-30-2003 02:29 PM

Beer Question
 
So a buddy of mine came back from Phoenix last week and says that the bars (away from the ball park) can only serve beer in plastic cups while the Diamondbacks are playing. Is this true? What the hell kind of ordinance is that?
:confused:

MisterEbola 06-30-2003 02:32 PM

Beer Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
So a buddy of mine came back from Phoenix last week and says that the bars (away from the ball park) can only serve beer in plastic cups while the Diamondbacks are playing. Is this true? What the hell kind of ordinance is that?
:confused:
Taking a page from the book of South Carolina law which lets you buy hard alcohol at bars - only from those outrageous little mini-bar bottles.

Atticus Grinch 06-30-2003 02:33 PM

gay marriage
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I realize I could probably look this up, but one of you likely knows the answer to this - I had a request from a gay acquaintance the other day about nice hotels to stay in in Toronto, places to see etc. It seems he is planning a trip there (lives in NYC) to get married. I didn't ask him this, but will it do him any good here - would NY recognize a gay marriage that is legal in Canada but not here? It seems to me he would have to actually move there to get any of the legal benefits of being married.

I mean - my marriage took place there and is recognized here, but it's not a same sex marriage.
I heard a LS prof on NPR address this issue. The short answer is that it's unlikely to be recognized. A whole bunch of states passed "Defense of Marriage" acts that define marriage as M/F. They also can use their courts to deny full faith & credit to out-of-state U.S. marriages on the grounds of state public policy, which apparently is a recognized exception to FF&C in Con Law. Add to this Congress's own definition of marriage as M/F, and you're hard pressed to force a state to recognize a Canadian same-sex marriage, since foreign marriages are recognized on principles of comity --- and comity has been resoundingly absent on the same-sex marriage issue.

I think a bunch of people should go to Canada to do this anyway. If we've got a trade deficit in the bridal industry, maybe there'll be a lobbying effort by all the wedding planners.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-30-2003 02:34 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
You're right. It is confusing. It sounds like he's saying that he is afraid that the zone of privacy is being encroached upon - in the same breath he wants the zone of privacy eliminated but just for homosexuals. If he's going after criminal activity in the home...what will become of my meth lab?
The argument that expanding the right to privacy will invite incest, meth labs, bestiality, etc.. is the same bullshit "states' rights" argument used by the anti-affirm action crowd. Neither group can come right out and say "Goddmanit, I don't like losing my spot in line to coloreds" or "Faggots offend me conservative Christian sensibilities," so they couch the argument in the classic Chicken Little "slipper slope" argument.

I love it when folks like Pat Robertson accidentally say what folks like Frist really mean but torture semantics to avoid. It always struck me as funny that republicans chided Santorum for saying in plain English exactly what most of them believe.

We will see the Jesus Nazis whipsawed in the next congressional election. They've pushed for too much too soon.

S(thankfully, pigs get slaughtered)D

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-30-2003 02:36 PM

Beer Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
So a buddy of mine came back from Phoenix last week and says that the bars (away from the ball park) can only serve beer in plastic cups while the Diamondbacks are playing. Is this true? What the hell kind of ordinance is that?
:confused:
Weird. Maybe the ordinance has to apply uniformly to all publicans in Phoenix, including the d'backs, so it sez "no person shall serve beer in the city of Phoenix other than in a plastic cup during home games of the AZ diamondbacks" or something. Now, why they couldn't create an exception is beyond me.

Or maybe too many people started throwing glass bottles in anger during the games.

ThrashersFan 06-30-2003 02:48 PM

Beer Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Weird. Maybe the ordinance has to apply uniformly to all publicans in Phoenix, including the d'backs, so it sez "no person shall serve beer in the city of Phoenix other than in a plastic cup during home games of the AZ diamondbacks" or something. Now, why they couldn't create an exception is beyond me.

Or maybe too many people started throwing glass bottles in anger during the games.
Maybe the DBacks organization owns a plastic cup company and maybe they told the City of Phoenix that they would become the New Mexico DBacks unless the City ensured increased business for their company. ;)

Fuck, other communities have done more to keep a ballclub.:D

Gattigap 06-30-2003 02:48 PM

Frist says you're a criminal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Yeah well, I can't help it if he doesn't like it when I go down on my girlfriend(s). What does he want from me? Tickets to the show?
Possibly, but from trying to interpret his statements I, like Atticus, think he's oddly hung up on the concept of the home itself. If you went down on your girlfriend(s) somewhere other than the home, then I think we can bring Bill around.

Fortunately, you have an FB community at your disposal to offer alternate venues, and to take over the administrative burden of that ticket thingie.

Gattigap

taxwonk 06-30-2003 02:56 PM

malaise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Thurgreed(I can spring for the Miller Lites that you'll need to unpucker a bit)Marshall
To borrow from one of my favorite old punch lines.


"Loosen up? Sure, but dont ya want to open them beers first?"

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-30-2003 03:02 PM

Frist is a fucking biggoted asshole
 
Quote:

Originally posted by atticus
I think a bunch of people should go to Canada to do this anyway. If we've got a trade deficit in the bridal industry, maybe there'll be a lobbying effort by all the wedding planners.
I think a bunch of people should go to Canada and do this because, regardless of an individual state's legal recognition of the same, the gay couples will then be able, with an entirely straight face and total social legitimacy, to introduce themselves socially, and demand equal social if not legal treatment, as a married couple. And it appears that a general social acceptance needs to happen here first, since there isn't the will to implement the change from the top down.

I'm of mixed feelings about that. On the one hand it is sort of a shame that, although the courts and politicians were willing to do (even some constitutionally dubious) things to force people to do right with respect to race and, sort of, gender, they don't seem to be up to forcing the issue with sexual orientation. Then again, maybe it's not so bad if this issue will be resolved more slowly and gradually (and frustratingly for the discriminated against) but with less long-lasting social and cultural damage than the remedies for race & gender discrimination have caused if the change in policy is permitted to bubble up from the bottom. Then again (again), no one should have to wait to be accorded their basic human rights and to be protected from the damage biggoted assholes like that fucker Frist can do to them.

FWIW, I think it is very unlikely that a constitutional amendment will get the votes - a lot of people remain biggoted assholes, but I firmly believe it is not enough to pull that off. I, for one, will be a one-issue voter on this matter.

Then again, I am constantly being saddened by the ability of people to disappoint my belief in the inherent fairness and sense of justice of the common man. Maybe 3/4 of the states, and 2/3 of the jugheads we elected to Congress, really do want to knowingly continue to discriminate and effectively endorse hatred of members of their own society, even though the heroism of the Civil Rights movement is so fresh in our collective national mind that it is impossible that they not be tipped off that they are on the "fucking biggoted asshole hate-monger [I would include "Nazi" but I'd automatically lose the point]" side of this one.

Then again (again), people of that fucking fuck-head Frist's generation will be dead soon, and people of my generation seem not to have their heads so much up their asses on this matter. And if that is how long we must wait to see some basic human rights protections in this area, then, when it comes, I invite all of my like-minded compatriots to joint me for a Girl-Drink and Conga Line Party on the fucker's grave. We'll get drunk, have promiscuous same-sex necking, and pee on his fucking rotting biggoted corpse so we can drink and celebrate some more.

BR(hmm, tell us how you really feel, BRC)C


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