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Only when compared to a military pension, perhaps.

• Percentage of American troops in Iraq who are National Guard or Reserve forces: 40%
• Percentage of National Guard members and reservists who are married, as of May 2004: 56%
• Percentage of married Guard members and reservists who report a loss of income over civilian jobs, as of May 2004: 55%
  Percentage of married Guard members and reservists who report a decrease in pay of $1,000 a month or more, as of May 2004: 49%
• Percentage of married Guard members and reservists who report a decrease in pay of $30,000 a year or more, as of May 2004: 15%

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Are you implying that GiGi's father double-dips?

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what's the percentage of people who were paid in addition to their civilian jobs to be in the Guard for years prior to being called up?

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I didn't need wmd

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Hank,

I know you value your tax cuts, but complaining about paying people who are risking their life for our country is going overboard. These people are and have been sacrificing for all of us, and if they actually enjoyed and got paid for a few weekends of military exercises (and beers) on guard duty, that expense is well deserved for their commitment.

We joke about just about everything here, but let's not belittle the soldiers.

G^3

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He'll probably form an exploratory and bow out about as early as Pete Wilson did.

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Why, do you guys think its dead? Personal accounts probably are, but I'm not sure about reform in general.

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Should the salaries know no limits? This is as unmoored as the Bush argument that the military should get higher pay raises than civilian gov't employees because we're in wartime. Conveniently ignoring that all soldiers in combat get combat pay (and that the military has a large number of civilian non-combat, desk positions), and curiously ignoring the numerous civilian employees (e.g. DHS, FBI) who are engaged in the "war on terror", despite being considered civilians.

Are you saying military pay or pensions are insufficiently generous currently? if so, what is the basis for that statement, other than "whatever they're paying, it should be more" and "my dad deserves to have his standard of living increased by the government, because i'm so greedy (3x, indeed) that I won't increase it for him"?

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I'll agree to that, as long as you don't counter discussion of the elderly by making it about soldiers. I'm not overly fond of the VA cuts myself.

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How do you feel about Israel?

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It's the personal accounts of which I'm speaking. Reform certainly has to happen.

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The admin decided to go to war to benefit the UN? Got it.

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Go do your fucking Roth IRA within your qualified plan, which you can do starting next year, despite the fact you are over the income limit for the original Roths, and shut it.

Add-on personal accounts, or diversion personal accounts?

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The credibility of the UN is based on the credibility of the supporting members. So, Saddam flaunting the resolutions was Saddam flaunting the proponents of the resolutions - us. Which is why Panda's point is inapposite. When someone fails to support "Israel is the source of all that is bad in the world", they're hardly dissing us.

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So now I'm confused. I just said that the personal accounts idea is bad, and should go away, while basic reform of the funding/outlay scheme of SS should happen. Did you switch sides?