I take it that was a joke
 

I take it that was a joke. If anyone is insulting anyone it is Seb. I was just noting the irony that someone who posts on this board would criticize another poster for posting here. Then I was pointing out the ludicrous nature of his remark by noting that according to Seb's method of detecting who has low self-esteem, those who post here the most must be losers IRL.

Talk to Seb if you think you have been criticized, because by implication, that is what he was doing.

I take it that was a joke
 

It was a commentary on your apparent lack of understanding of the dynamics of this site, as I have mentioned before, as much as anything.

Unless of course you simply like all the bitching and moaning, in which case you understand it perfectly.

If I may be serious for a moment, it is a mistake to think you can knowwhat someone is really like based upon how he or she presents himself on the boards.

For example all I have heard tells me (and you will forgive me SD) that SD is a pretty good guy. I wouldn't mind meeting up with him for a cup of coffee next time I am in his neck of the woods. I imagine we would probably have a good conversation and a lot of laughs.

You call Slave by the nickname rapist wannabe or whatever it was. Slave is one of the nicest, kindest people I know. The thought he would harm a woman is laughable and when you call him that I find it vile.

We see here only what people want us to see. Frequently it is just an act, sometimes it is a facet of the person. But no one who only knows me, for example, here, could begin to say they know what I am really like.

I wouldn't begin to judge you off board if I met you and knew who you were, by what you say on here.

I would wonder why you feel the need to present yourself the way you do, but I would give you the benefit of the doubt.

Ho Hum
 

I see Mr. "JFF" is stuck inside with the computer again.

You know Sir, sunlight is actually good for one's health.

not7y(time for my afternoon nap)S

I take it that was a joke
 

I understand the dynamics of this site completely. What you don't like is that I don't conform to your dynamics. You don't have to participate in the dynamics here to understand them. We all post here for different reasons. If anyone doesn't understand something it is you. You are baffled by my presence here and attribute it to some failing on my part.

You will get no quarrel from me on that one. I find myself repeatedly giggling at other posters' attempts to figure out who I am IRL.

As I and others have noted, the fact that you can act in ways here that you cannot IRL is a big draw for many of us.

That seems to contradict your statement that "it is a mistake to think you can knowwhat [sic] someone is really like based upon how he or she presents himself on the boards."

If his postings are anything like he is IRL, he seems pretty base to me.

I find it vile that a man fantasizes about shoving his cock in a women's mouth against her will to shut her up. That is fantasizing about commiting an act of violence of a sexual nature against a women. Men who envison themselves doing that to women are disturbed and in need of professional help so that they don't ever act on their fantasies.

I know if you are anything like who you present yourself to be, you find those types of fantasies vile, too. It is just that Slave helped you with these boards and so you won't admit that. Your motivation in defending him is transparent.

I don't and have never said anything that disagrees with that statement. Somewhere in Slave's mind is this notion that a sex act is to be used in an aggressive and violent manner against a women's will to shut her up. And for some reason, he wanted us all to see that.

Feel free to judge me in virtual life or IRL. I could care less.

Feel free to turn this board all about me, again, too. The politics board is dead today. I am happy to be here. It is paigow that is unhappy to have me here. She can't stand that the board is so taken with me.

Ho Hum
 

And where are you? You are about as intelligent as Seb is when he criticizes me for posting here.

I am, however, getting ready to go for a run. Gotta keep the gluts toned. Its a beautiful day here in the sunny People's Republic of CA.

I take it that was a joke
 

We could go on for some time with this conversation, but somehow I think we would just be talking in circles.

I figured I had to give it a try given I have some level of responsibility here. I tried, clearly it didn't work, so all I have left to say is good luck.

I take it that was a joke
 

"I tried." Well, I guess that is about as good as a comeback as is possible when you lose an argument.

0xFFFF
 

It appears as if leagl has been very industrious :comp: over the weekend, having generated 65535[1] posts thus far[2].

Go leagl, go!



[1] This number can be very fashionably expressed as FFFF in hexadecimal.
[2] This appears to be the maximum number of posts that the counter can handle -- assuming it is only two bytes long -- until the code resets it to zero.

Phone Booth
 

This is an eminently watachable movie, the best I've yet to see in 2003. Certainly, none of the guys flicks this year touch it. (Props though to Colin Farrell's bullseye in Daredevil and the opening footrace in narc.)

There's hookers with plenty of one liners for comic relief (one comes close to matching the phrase "pimp hand").

Colin Farrell is on the whole time. For all the hoopla about his ability to flawlessly do US accents though, his accent sounds more Irish than NYC at times.

Kiefer's great too. He's a perfect voice of disembodied evil, Colin's own personal FM broadcast from KHELL.

--RT & RP, proceed directly to the theatre for your Farrell fix.

The preview for the Italian Job with Marky Mark & Ed Norton is dissappointing. I'm tired for Marky Mark. He isn't much of an actor, and he's aging badly. I won't miss him after he's gone.

The preview for the upcoming Ed Burns, Dustin Hoffman is better. I'll be happy to see Ed Burns as a fast-talking grifter, rather than some John Cusack-type softie.

Movies
 

Mo matter what he does for the rest of his career, I will always be a Colin Farrell fan for his performance in Tigerland.

The paper had an interesting story about another favorite movie Three Kings. You can find the article at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/06/mo...6EDEL.html?th.

I take it that was a joke
 

JFF,

You're incorrigible.

1. You are only baffling in the same way a horrible car accident demands a second glance.

2. You are the center of attention on this board because slapping you around is like whiffle ball.

3. Slave has never fantasized about shoving his cock in your mouth. You are so unbelievably tone deaf to subtle arguments that he decided it was easier to use a coarse insult rather than waste breath explaining his position to you. He played you like a fiddle with that comment.

If you are really PatentGreedy, then I say touche. I've been awfully gullible and you're played me like a fiddle.

If you are posting in earnest, I'd say your way too old not to recognize the difference between people laughing with you and people laughing at you.

S(I am amazed you have an SO - attempting to have a logical discussion with you is like trying to organize cats)D

I take it that was a joke
 

Seb, you are short IRL aren't you? You definitely come across as a guy with short-man syndrome.

I take it that was a joke
 

He's actually 8' 3" and is a hunka-hunka burnin man. Just your type, actually.

I take it that was a joke
 

JFF,

6'1.

S(and I don't do those thick soled shoes that are in style these days)D

I take it that was a joke
 

So he's ten years older than her (but looks 8 years younger than he is) and has trouble getting it up if his mate doesn't have a killer body?

For gods sake, people, stop talking to the man behind the curtain -- he's having a ball at your expense! I say this as someone who mistakenly took this person for real for about three posts and wasted about seven minutes of my time actually responding. I've been in your shoes, but now I'm a recovering sock-flamer. Come to a meeting with me, have some coffee and cigarettes, and we can get through the 2 steps together. Step 1 -- hit yourself on the forehead and say "duh, of course this person isn't for real. Step 2 -- stop responding.

Are you hot?
 

Did anyone watch this? A friend of mine actually TiVoed it. Sigh. And I watched the Big Shocking Finale (not) yesterday.

The best thing about the show were the little titles (sort of like when you watch the news and it says "Prime Minister of Britain" or "Witness" underneath the name of the person being interviewed). Absolutely cracked me up - when someone was dinged, their title would become "not hot enough." :D

And the guy who is now The Hottest Guy in America is indeed quite hot. But the chick? C'mon... She was cute, but I wouldn't say she was hotter than the other women who were finalists. Lorenzo seemed to have a problem with women who were really skinny, so I was surprised that she was deemed The! Hottest! Woman! in! America! Oh well, to each his own.

C(this has been your public fluff announcement of the day)deuced

Are you hot?
 

I can only assume that production costs decreased dramtically on the show to save money for the Howard Stern lawsuit.

aV

Sorority/Fraternity Life
 

Anyone else watching this?

I'm thinking that with all the sorority pledges hating each other and forming high-school cliques we're in for an entertaining bloodbath by season's end.

Guys: seem to be incapable of integrating frat commitments and any interaction with women, so if they're straight, it looks like it's shaping up to be a celibate 4 years.

In defense of Elvis
 

Actually its Liv Tyler's sister who is the "plus sized" model. I think Liv Tyler is a size 0 - of course I also believe her sister is a size 10 - not quite plus sized IMHO.

Sorority/Fraternity Life
 

The shows are very strange. My favorite character is Brooke who seems like she cannot believe she is stuck in the house with those horrible girls.

I still cannot decide what is worse, their behavior or their accents.

Sorority/Fraternity Life
 

I tried to watch sorority life this week, but I must have accidentally tuned into some horror movie b/c I all could see was a bunch of young girls running around screaming and screeching and trying to escape from some creepy guys by crawling out of the window of a filthy scary mansion. Like most women in horror flicks, instead of trying to grab real weapons, they tried to fend off the psychopaths with shaving cream. And there was this other woman who I think was the Bride of Frankenstein given her hairstyle, but for some reason the women weren't afraid of her.

Anybody watching MBA? (evenodds, I know you are) Is there any doubt that Billie Jeanne and Tony are kaput tonight? Although, in true Fox tradition, I bet they crap on their loyal viewers and don't even announce tonight who's getting kicked off but make us wait till next week's show.

I take it that was a joke
 

me: what's the point of going to the circus if you can't laugh at the clown? or going to the zoo if you can't laugh at the monkey?

:rolleyes:

ms. naughty diplomat

Trading Spaces
 

In less lurid (sorry) reality TV, WTF is it Kia and wallpaper borders? Why is she incapable of designing a single room without relying on them? Every room ends up looking exactly the same. I thought she'd been fired since I hadn't seen her for a while but tragically she has returned.

Doug and Hildy can occasionally do a truly hideous space but at least they take a risk every time.

I take it that was a joke
 

me: justfourteen, you're fat in real life aren't you? you definitely come across as a girl with fat-girl syndrome.

now go ahead and call me a sexist self-hating woman, justfortyone for saying that you must be fat, while ignoring the sexism implicit in your comment to sebby. i want to be entertained :p

and incidentially, i'm pretty sure that justfourteen isn't patentgreedy. i stand by my assessment that she is the same poster who used to post as erica.

ms. naughty diplomat

In defense of Elvis
 

A few months ago, I saw who I thought was Liv Tyler in a clothing shop, and thought to myself, "Gee, she's, uh.... bigger than what I would have expected from seeing her in the movies." When I told my husband, he said that it was probably her sister, who is a "plus-sized" model.

Three things:

1. The sister (if it was indeed the sister whom I saw) looks EXACTLY like Liv Tyler (in the face, anyway.)

2. She is a big girl. I do NOT mean fat -- I mean really big -- she's got to be 5'10" or so, and just big boned. She did not seem fat, but she was no size 0, that's for sure.

3. I just saw some movie on cable over the weekend with Richard Gere and a bunch of women (including Farrah Fawcett -- can't remember the name) and Liv Tyler was in it too (she played Kate Hudson's lesbian girlfriend). I remember thinking Liv looked big in that movie and wondered whether if maybe it had actually been Liv in the store.

Whoever it was, she had a beautiful face -- and flawless skin -- unlike most movie stars I have seen in person.

I take it that was a joke
 

2. NTTAWWT.

Trading Spaces
 

Thank you! Gawd, she drives me nuts. I like about 50% of what she does in a room. The borders obsession is mind-boggling, as they usually aren't even decent borders (if such exist). That shell room? Horrid! I thought the whole room was just crap, including the colors, the theme and the actual execution.

Though I loved that one of the guys (who was working with Hildi on the gallery room - wtf? they wanted a living room, not a sit and view Hildi's art room) called a spade a spade, or rather, a Ty an idiot and said that Ty was clearly the beauty and not the brains of the show.

C(not a reality show fan, but I do heart AI and TS)deuced

Trading Spaces
 

yes, Ty gets major points for knocking over and smashing the (ugly, but whatever) focal point of Kia's room then swearing about Kia being a moron (not that she isn't one, but not for that reason). Aside from the sticks she glued on to the thing, wasn't Ty the one who built it?

Plus what gives with the 'art' on this show? If any nit can smush paint randomly on a canvas and convince the homeowner it's MOMA-worthy, why not just kill all the real artists so they dont' have to live to see that?

In defense of Elvis
 

Here's one of the more flattering pics I saw of Mia Tyler (there were lots of semi-nude ones that showed off all her rolls):http://members.aol.com/pscptrull/lardbiscuit/miat03.jpg

tm

In defense of Elvis
 

Okay, that was NOT the girl I saw in the store. Unless there's another sister out there, it was Liv Tyler.

She is a big girl. Not fat (no rolls of flabby flesh or anything), but she's really tall, and really big boned.

(No wonder I was so struck by the facial resemblance!)

In defense of Elvis
 

I doubt Liv Tyler is a size zero. She looks to be about an 8 to me. NTTAWWT. Mia Tyler is a plus-size model, and she is definitely "overweight." I think our society has placed such an emphasis lately on self-esteem that we have lost sight of what an ideal weight truly is. It's neither Skeletor nor Mia.

In defense of Elvis
 

I googled to see if I could find out vitals. One site stated she is 5'10" and 112. 112 for that frame is scary-thin. I'm doubting it. Judge for yourself.

http://216.40.225.63/t/tyler_liv/ima...ctures/010.jpg

spooky(she looks just about right to me)fish

[Edited so as not to sound like Tonto]

In defense of Elvis
 

You need to use my formula.

I'm at my ideal weight right now.

If I lose ten pounds, I will be at my NEW ideal weight.

If I gain ten pounds, I will, once again, be at another, newer ideal weight.

(No worries.)

In defense of Elvis
 

Am I sick because I want to see the rolls? Post it.

TM

In defense of Elvis
 

I think you're confusing cause and effect.

Remember this?
 

I think we were talking about this on the FB. I'm surprised at the decision.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/04/07/sc....ap/index.html

[spree: A divided Supreme Court upheld a state ban on cross burning, ruling Monday that the history of racial intimidation attached to this symbol outweighs the free speech protection of Ku Klux Klansmen]

TM

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

Forgive my ignorance, but is this size 0 thing a recent development? I've heard of it before, but it seems just, well -- weird. I mean, is it a recent response to the body nazi, anorexia/bulimia, fashion-magazine supermodel funhouse-mirror bodyimage bullshit?

I could see a size 1, but really, what type of figure is a size 0 supposed to fit? Calista Flockhart types? I guess what I'm trying to find out is how would a size zero, compare to an "average" woman with regard to height, weight, measurements, etc.

spooky(enquiring minds want to know)fish

Trading Spaces
 

I am a TS addict -would not let either Hildi or Kia near my house. I'd like to sees Hildi's own house to see if she's imposed her self-important "style" there - any straw on the wall. Unlike the other designers neither of them seem to care about the homeowners tastes at all.

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

As a former adult size zero (and a neither tall nor short 5'4"), I can tell you that the body type that can wear a size zero at my height is really very thin and "unwomanly." Not always--some women truly are small boned and naturally thin. Also, some size charts are skewed (for example, some of my clothing is size 3-4 and some is 7-8--it is the sizing that is different, not me). But in terms of how a size zero compares to the "average" woman, the typical size zero looks like a high school student.

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

Here's a link to J.Crew's size chart. Also, sizes now are cut bigger than they used to be--that is, a woman who is a size 10 now probably would've been a size 12 or so back in 1965-70--essentially in response to fattening American women getting pissed at the size labels which confirmed they were getting larger. Marilyn Monroe I believe was a size 10, so would've been a 12 or 14 today--in other words, she would never ever have been able to get a job.

Size 0 is for an incredibly tiny (no pun intended) of women naturally, but mostly for women on starvation diets or who abuse laxatives.