Breaking News
 

I realize that most of you probably have this forum bookmarked, or perhaps the front page of the forum section. But on the home page of the site, we have all sorts of interesting breaking news: supreme court decisions, the V&E discrimination law suit, the Altheimer & Gray closing announced last Friday, and Arter & Hadden.

We also have a weblog we update with links back to the appropriate thread on this site http://www.omnilegalnews.com.

Even(I feel as persecuted as Thurgreed: I give and I give and I give . . . ;) )Odds

Splish Splash (I Was Takin' a Ba'ath)
 

Good call on the TG. That's one of the banks that's meant to be appreciated - not listened to.

Splish Splash (I Was Takin' a Ba'ath)
 

I don't know. I kind of got into their "groove" one time when I saw them live. I think you can find music that is far more alienating.

And there you have it.

Things that make you go "hmmmm"
 

Excerpts from book about JFK, Jr. and Carolyn.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90819,00.html

* John once returned to their loft to find Carolyn sprawled on the floor "disheveled and hollow-eyed, snorting cocaine with a gaggle of gay fashionistas," Klein writes. "Without asking John's permission, Carolyn gave keys to their loft to some of her friends so they could come and go as they please."




Okay people, fess up, who among you are the mentioned "gay fashionistas?" And why didn't you invite any of us FBers over when you had the keys to the place?*


*I thought the excerpt was funny but I find the obsession with "everything Kennedy" a bit disturbing.

Things that make you go "hmmmm"
 

Pretty funny stuff. Why the emphasis on "gay" fashionistas? How very odd.

I must admit, I tend to assume "fashionista" refers to a size 0-2 female with a tony but not Ivy undergraduate degree and a $70,000 wardrobe who makes $27,000 per year at Conde Nast fetching other people pencils and coffee. I think gender bias has crept into my thinking while I wasn't looking.

So, were lesbian fashionistas included in this party? Does the author specify "gay" fashonistas to indicate that, while CK was debauched she wasn't unfaithful or lolling about on the floor with possible sexual partners, or to point out the great extent of her degredation, hanging out with homos and all?

Also, I agree 100% about the disturbing emphasis on "everything Kennedy." Most disturbing version: "American Royalty." ??? Whatever. I was under the impression that, even in enterpreneurial America, one didn't even pretend to "aristocracy" until the lucrative criminal activities of your forbearers had been at least somewhat cleansed with time. Or until you used the money to buy a daughter into some European title, at least.

Avatar advice
 

Just like the classic movie/documentary "Man Getting Hit in Crotch with Football."

For Love or Money
 

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Interesting twist that Rob now has incentive to pick a girl who would choose him over the money. Only possibility that leaves is Paige. I kind of felt for her with the teenaged (ok early 20s) angst last night. Plus if she picks him, she has a built in attorney for all of her DUI and other driving changes... I'm looking forward to the moment that the girls find out they have to choose one or the other. More Paige angst is sure to follow.

Anyone have an opinion as to how this show will work when it is the woman choosing the guys? I assume they won't choose such a schmuck of a woman, but I'm anxious to see...

Avatar advice
 

This just reminded me of last night's 10 PM rerun, in which Homer was on the reality show "Frame Up". The hosts were Carmen Electra and some guy with braces. The guy with braces should have been Troy McClure. I'm still pissed at Phil's bitch wife for destroying both McClure and Bill McNeil from Newsradio in one fell swoop. That one stone killed two hilarious birds...

Dating and For Love or Money
 

We watched a bit of For Love or Money late last night. At this point in the show, the guy has to worry about whether the women love him for him or for the money. Women who would not otherwise be interested in him are interested because of the money. They are all rather up-front with the camera that this is the issue.

Watching this show, I realized that it finally captures issues involved in dating in your late 20s and 30s. Does he love me for me? Will she leave me for a "bigger, better deal"?

This will make people put down the cookies
 

What's next? A buzzer in each package?

Kraft Changes Portions Over Fat Fears

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Kraft Foods Inc. (NYSE:KFT - news), the largest U.S. food company, on Tuesday said it would take steps like capping portion sizes and providing more nutrition information as it, like other companies, faces growing concern and even lawsuits due to rising obesity rates.

The maker of Oreo cookies, Velveeta cheese spread and a host of other foods said it will limit portion sizes in single-serve packages, eliminate all in-school marketing and provide nutrition labeling in all markets worldwide, including markets where it is not required.

Food companies and fast food chains have faced increased criticism for producing unhealthy, fatty foods. Obesity among adults in the United States has doubled since 1980, and tripled among adolescents, according to the U.S. surgeon general.

Full text: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../food_kraft_dc

pissed off
 

I am very annoyed to be stuck inside on one of the nicest days we've had all year.

carry on.

This will make people put down the cookies
 

Can't we just put big signs at the head of the junk-food aisles saying "EATING TOO MUCH OF THIS IS WHAT'S MAKING YOU FAT AND SICK, YOU GODDAMNED IDIOT", so they don't have to get too graphic with the labels? On the rare occurrence when I do want a couple of Oreos, I don't want to read in huge letters on the package that they can kill me unless they'll make me drop dead instantly--I just want to enjoy them in peace.

pissed off
 

And Canada Day, at that!

Wash. Post Article (spree: what's up with the Berkeleyization of Canada?)

pissed off
 

Gwinky, I love ya you flouncy pouncy hockey bunny :love: so I say this with the utmost of love and tenderness:

Fuck You and your nice day -- there's a damn hurricane down here. Fucking flash floods washing away the bee-u-tiful flowers I planted this past weekend -- arghhhhhhhhh. I have to leave my beloved convertible in the garage and drive my "rain car" instead -- BOOHOO. Tornado watches. :eek: Calgon, take me away.

This will make people put down the cookies
 

Okay, so they've dreamed up a new excuse for ever-smaller packages with ever-higher prices. "It's good for you this way. Yeah, that's the ticket."

A propos of junk food, I was appalled that one can now purchase, which I learned from being given a free sample, chips and cookies that come in a package designed to fit in the cupholder of your car. Just in case you can't make it from office to home without 6 oz. of Chips Ahoy! or Cheez-It.

For Love or Money
 

I hope he picks Erin. Paige is "cute" and all, but annoyingly young and naive. She looks, talks, and acts like a little girl. Her comment about her "fairy tale" coming true made me want to gag. Erin is very pretty, but has a slightly weathered look around the eyes and mouth. How old is she?

This will make people put down the cookies
 

Agreed. This is why the "fat tax" shit needs to be shelved. Those of us who can consume fatty stuff i moderation or otherwise exercise and stay trim should not have to pay for the lack of control of others. If they want to use a tax to discourage obesity, they should just have a fucking weigh-in each year on April 15th and charge people by the pound.

The hurricane is making me crabby.

This will make people put down the cookies
 

Calories per serving: 450

Servings size: 1/2 cookie

This will make people put down the cookies
 

they are very tricky with those serving sizes aren't they? I realized that a few days ago when I discovered I regularly eat about 1000 calories for breakfast.

This will make people put down the cookies
 

ONLY 3 GRAMS OF FAT!!!!!

per serving

One chip = one serving, approximately 74 servings per package

Say What You Want
 

"The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last Tuesday that Web loggers, website operators and e-mail list editors can't be held responsible for libel for information they republish, extending crucial First Amendment protections to do-it-yourself online publishers. "

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59424,00.html

This will make people put down the cookies
 

OMG, that is what that packaging does? I couldn't figure out what in the hell that packaging could possibly do, except create more unrecyclable litter.

In other news...
 

Jeez, did you people all grow up in Canada?


Act I, Scene i. A School-yard.

Bully. Are you a fag in a cage?

Dupe. No.*

Bully. {Pointing & Calling to Friends, &c.} Fag on the loose! Fag on the loose!


Act I, Scene ii. Same.

Bully. Did you know that if your face is the same size as your hand with your fingers spread out, you have cancer?

Dupe. No. I do not want the cancer! I should find out by placing my spread hand in front of my face, with my palm touching the tip of my nose. {He does.}

Bully. {Pushes Dupe's hand into face.} You're cancer free, but why are you hitting yourself?

Dupe. O, the humanity!

{Curtain.}

For boys, the proper heterosexual way to examine your fingernails is to place the palm facing upwards and to curl your fingers inward. Holding the hand flat, palm down will cause grief and misery for you and your parents. For girls, the standard is, of course, reversed.

*Only one person in my schoolyard ever thought he could outwit this system by answering "yes" and mooting the punchline. He was never heard from again.

Bottled water
 

I don't understand the obsession with everyone walking around with one. Is America THAT dehydrated? Other countries seem to be doing just fine waiting until they get to an actual PLACE to get water. We apparently can't go five minutes w/out drinking some. I can understand if you're a tourist and you'll be walking around all day, but I see people with them for the walk/train/bus ride home for the office. Are these people going to pass out? Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest hydration advocate in the world, but I think it's gone too far. Maybe drinking too much water is making us fat...

The GF ALWAYS carries one, and asks me every five minutes if I would like a sip. She pees every 20 minutes.

We didn't drink this much water when we were skinny did we? I'm talking '70s/80s skinny. You drank a glass when you were thirsty. Why are we forcing ourselves to drink more?

Edited to add that, lately, I've been forcing myself to drink more. Not water though...

This will make people put down the cookies
 

This is getting ridiculous. It is not McDonald's or Kraft's or anybody's duty to protect us from ourselves. The idea that they can't market their unhealthy product because we may be stupid enough to buy it is ludicrous. The idea that McDonalds can't sell fat-filled fries because some people eat too much of them is insane.

I want those things to be available. I can control myself and I am in shape. If I feel like having something that I know is unhealthy, I should be able to. I can always go to a healthier restaurant. Sometimes I don't want to. Hell, even if I was a huge fatty that weighed 400 pounds (think Wonk -- and you don't want to Wonk), I should still have the option to stuff fist fulls of fries in my fat fucking face.

All they should be required to do is disclose the ingredients and nutritional breakdown of the products they sell. You're on notice, so shut the fuck up.

TM

Bottled water
 

I do the same thing. The bottle always in hand, the sip-offering and the perpetual peeing. It's a weird water-obsession disease I think.

Bottled water
 

Given all the health messages to drink more water, I can see where it's coming from.

Now, my question is, why do people willingly spend $1-2 on a small bottle of "spring" water, when the stuff is available completely free? NYC has always had some of the best tap water anywhere, so why so many water bottles? And it's not like other cities have polluted water (except on some rare occassions). What's even more recockulous is that Dasani (and I think other products) are just city water (of the local bottling plant) which is filtered, purified, and then has a mineral/flavoring pack mixed in to give it a uniform national "taste." Folks, that's tap water.

Now, this doesn't say anything about the folks with the Nalgene bottles, or the few who refill their poland spring bottles from the tap. But $1 for water? What are people doing complaining about gas prices?

Bottled water
 

Chicago water is fine too.

Indianapolis water is disgusting. Brita doesn't even filter that shit.

What's wrong with Nalgene? I have three.*

Attaching the Nalgene to your belt loop via a carabiner makes you a dork.**

*but they're only carried around in a daypack for hikes, beach, etc.

**I've done this.

Bottled water
 

I think some people are drinking water constantly so they don't just stuff their faces with junk food instead. Or maybe they never got over the breastfeeding-as-security thing and sucking water from a bottle is the closest substitute.

Me, I'd rather have a glass of sangria to quench my thirst on a hot day, but quite unjustly I am apparently not supposed to do that at work.

Bottled water
 

It's because - and believe this if you want to - there's a difference in taste. Arrowhead and Aquafina are the worst. Aquafina has way too much chlorine, and Arrowhead tastes like it came out of my fish tank. Between the Big 2 (pepsi and coke bottlers) Dasani tastes a smidgen better - less chlorine less soapy. I'll spend the extra for Fiji (my favorite) or Evian - there's just a cleaner taste.

And I'm with you on the health messages re: drinking more water. Every single diet book, anti-aging book states in bold "and remember to drink plenty of water - 8 glasses a day" and then pee your guts out. Our doctor told us that you should be peeing about every hour - give or take. Too often, and you're depriving your body of essential minerals and electrolytes, too seldom, and you're clogging your kidneys with crap. I don't think there was as much emphasis on drinking water back in the 70's-80's. We all drank a lot of pop when we were thirsty.

Bottled water
 

We have a water service because the local water is (a) nasty tasting with a slightly metallic taste, and (b) from time to time launches illnesses throughout our fair city.

My favorite water is evian, which I drink at room temperature. Any other water, I chill or disguise with lime or emer-gen-c. I can no longer justify spending $2.39 a bottle, since we discovered we spent about $40 a week on bottled water, pre-water service.

Even(now drinking prole water)Odds

Bottled water
 

Nothing. I figure those folks just filled up with tap water, or from one of those big E/O water-service tanks.

BTW, are the claims that Nalgene bottles don't leak accurate?

Bottled water
 

What is Nalgene?

Bottled water
 

I've bought a lot of water recently to bring with me to my morning workout, mainly because I'm too lazy at 6:00 am to refill one of the bottles with tap water and take it with me. At that time of the morning, my brain works easier stopping in a convienence store and handing over a dollar before getting to the workout. Lately, I've been drinking the Deja Blue brand.

I have a 44 ounce cup from a fast food restaruant on my desk at work, and I refill it probably three or four times a day. It's a habit I got into about two or so years ago. I keep busboys in restaurants busy, constantly refilling my water and iced tea glasses.

My kitchen sink has a filtration system underneath, so the water in my kitchen actually tastes pretty good, but the water in my bathroom sucks.

Bottled water
 

Wow! That seems like a lot. How many times do you get up at night?

If I have to pee more than three times a day, or get up at night to pee I start worrying about my prostate.

DT

Bottled water
 

Yep, my Nalgene gets tap water.

I've never had one leak. They've really cornered the market on "liquid containers that fit nicely into the side webbing of your backpack/daypack"...

Worst Film Accent?
 

The following list lost all credibility with me because it failed to list Kevin Costner in Robin Hood (which should have been number one -- Hell, even his American accent is painful and whiny). And Keanu should be number two.

POLL: WORST FILM ACCENTS

1. Sean Connery, "The Untouchables" (1987)
2. Dick Van Dyke, "Mary Poppins" (1964)
3. Brad Pitt, "Seven Years In Tibet" (1997)
4. Charlton Heston, "Touch of Evil" (1958)
5. Heather Graham, "From Hell" (2001)
6. Keanu Reeves, "Bram Stoker's Dracula" (1992)
7. Julia Roberts, "Mary Reilly" (1996)
8. Laurence Olivier, "The Jazz Singer" (1980)
9. Peter Postlewaite, "The Usual Suspects" (1995)
10. Meryl Streep, "Out of Africa" (1985)

-- Source: Empire Magazine

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ent/index.html

I think Connery's accent isn't mocked as much over here because we don't really give a shit that there's a difference between Scottish and Irish. And when he's playing a Russian speaking English, his gruff Scottish accent sounds just fine because it's foreign. Hell, I was watching "Brotherhood of the Wolf" the other day (a french film set in France) and it was dubbed so that all of the actors had British accents. Makes no sense.

Anyone have any to add to the list?

Thurgreed(do NOT rent Brotherhood of the Wolf)Marshall

Bottled water
 

Yep, at least mine doesn't. I can toss it when it's full into my handbag and no matter how it tumbles around it won't leak.

However, please don't kick my ass if yours leaks and wrecks your stuff. I recall I got into a lot of trouble when I told a poster how to drink from a glass without getting lipstick on it and ended up being threatened with dry-cleaning bills when she stained her blouse trying. :(

Are you a Metrosexual
 

This has gotten out of hand. Who started this? Now it's on MSNBC!

Are you a metrosexual

June 30 — Turns out there’s a crisis in masculinity afoot. Not a new crisis, so much as the same crisis that comes along every couple of years, articulated by one of two questions: “Are men too manly?” or “Are men manly enough?” The latest rehashing of this issue is encapsulated in the term “metrosexual,” entertainingly explored in a recent edition of The New York Times.
ACCORDING TO Warren St. John’s article, this is a term coined by writer Mark Simpson several years ago “to satirize what he saw as consumerism’s toll on traditional masculinity.” But recently marketers have repositioned the term to denote guys who are secure in their need for, say, skin moisturizer or body spray-”straight urban men willing, even eager, to embrace their feminine sides,” as St. John puts it. (In some descriptions, the metrosexual idea seems to equate homosexuality with femininity in ways that suggest a Three’s Company level of analysis, but leave that aside.) We may, the Times says, “be on the verge of a metrosexual moment.”
What’s a little startling about this is that it seems like only yesterday that we were still enthralled with the New Piggery of the Maxim cohort, which has mustered enough of a cultural presence to inspire an “unapologetically male” TV network. Is that over? To answer this question we turn to the marketing efforts in support of a body spray deodorant called Axe, apparently a prime example of a metrosexual product, and according to its maker, Unilever, “A stylish brand [that] boosts young men’s confidence and attraction through the combination of a distinctive masculine fragrance and long-lasting deodorant protection.”

Bottled water
 

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/image...rsHomepage.jpg

Preferred by kayakers everywhere. Or so it seems.

Note to Coltrane--looks like the new colors also sport a pre-caribinered version.