For Love or Money
 

I wonder if it's a bigger turn-on for a man to have a woman who is not yet damaged by other men or a woman who is more of an equal in terms of age and experience, but whose age and experience come with issues from past relationships.

For Love or Money
 

I agree with you about Kelly. I liked her and thought that both she and Erin came off looking good last night. I also have to remember that that Paige is a young 20 and Mr. Charisma is 33. If he choses Paige what on earth will they talk about? She wants everything to be like it is in a fairytale. And that just ain't real.

Does anyone know what Mr. Charisma is doing now besides collecting unemployment?

I also agree with you about reality TV. It's insidious how it sucks you in. Now I have to watch (or at least TiVo) the two-hour finale.

Worst Film Accent?
 

[WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILERS of "The Usual Suspects," a movie you have no excuse for not having seen.]

I don't think Kobayashi was Soze --- or, more accurately, that the guy who played Kobayashi in the narrative was Soze in "real" life. I agree that it's Verbal. However, there is no such person as Kobayashi. It's a word Verbal got off the label on the bottom of a coffee cup in the interview room. Since he's telling the story and adding elaboration as Kujan pushes him for more (notice he doesn't start talking about Soze until Kujan asks him, based on the tip from the dying burn victim at the pier, and involuntarily explodes with "Shit!" when Kujan suddenly asks "Who is Kayser Soze?"). He completely made up the Kobayashi character in the narrative in order to get out of Kujan's office. The movie depicts him as being played by the same guy who picks up Verbal in the car on the street as he limps away from the interview room. But it's natural that the visual depiction would use images of people Verbal actually knew. The movie is just the tapestry of Verbal's story, which he's making up as he goes along, getting himself out of jams that his narrative put him in.

So, no, Kobayashi is not Soze, but in the visual story he's "played" by the guy who's Soze's real assistant in "real" life.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Kevin Costner in Robin Hood.

For Love or Money
 

If I was a man (and I can assure you I'm not. NTTAWWT) I'd go for the latter but I think I'd be in the minority. It seems to me that a big turn-on for men is to have a young virgin so that they can be the one to de-flower her and teach her how to get them off without the encumbrances of knowing another man's likes and dislikes. This also gives them bragging rights in the locker room.

Worst Film Accent?; Poll
 

Also Sean Connery in The Hunt for Red October. Sure, most Russians I know have thick Scottish brogues. :rolleyes:

In relationship news, scientists have just confirmed opposites actually do not attract--or if they do, their relationships will go down in flames. Poll: is this true for you?

Forgot to copy the link, but it's at cnn.com.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Why is it that I always get Bill Macy and David Caruso confused? Look the same, seem to act in similar movies and similar roles. Caruso seemed 1100000000 times dumber in snubbing NYPD Blue.

Bottled water
 

My brain was pondering similar scenarios, but I was thinking along the lines of the Verizon commercial, "Is it leaking now?"

Paging the real Jack Ryan
 

I've always wondered why it is that Jack Ryan could never be portrayed by one character - Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford, Ben Affleck. I actually think that Baldwin was the right guy. Youngish and smart. Ford seemed too old for the role and just didn't seem to be the right fit - although his two appearances would seemingly outdo Baldwin's single appearance.

For Love or Money
 

Having added to my bag of tricks but never forever changed my "act" based on any man's likes or dislikes (eg, if your man doesn't like his balls sucked you stop doing it to him but that doesn't mean that you don't give the next guy a chance to object), if I were a man (and I am not) I would agree with fufu. Sometimes it is hard enough getting across your likes and dislikes without having to teach someone how to fuck from the ground up. Besides, you may find that you enjoy something that a man from my past showed me how to do but that you otherwise might have never experienced if I had never brought it along with me into our relationship.:D

Worst Film Accent?
 

Oh dear god, how could I have forgotten this. Clearly the winner.

Opposites Poll
 

I do not think this is true. Like with my first husband (okay, maybe it is true;) ) I married a poor, uneducated, even-tempered man this time around. I would find it hard to exist side by side with a money-hungry, career driven, uber-controlling person but he doesn't seem to mind. Also, he likes to spend and I like to save -- life would suck if both of us saved or both spent too much. We balance each other because he helps me to try being more laid-back and I make him watch the news/documentaries and try not to spend so much of MY money....oops. Our son is a pretty good mix of the two of us which is actually kinda funny.

Edited after reading EOs post that hubby and I come from totally different family backgrounds (he a single parent and me the typical working dad and SAHM; he is eldest and I am youngest), economic (his poor versus my middle-class), and parts of the country (plains versus NY). Our opinions differ on so many things.

Worst Film Accent?
 

I was reminded of him after I read that he's just become engaged - no wedding date set though.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Then to delve deep into the Hollywood archives: John Wayne in Genghis Khan.

Opposites Attract Poll
 

This is absolutely true for us.

Despite our external differences, the OM is probably the most like me of any man I have dated: virtually the same age, virtually the same socio-economic background, similar childhoods, similar family structures, similar interests (though our tastes are different). We have different personalities and we have made very different choices with our lives before meeting, but we are really quite similar.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins, the king of all bad accents
Christopher Lambert in Highlander
Sean Connery in Highlander (yes, I know, he didn't bother doing an accent, but no way a sort-of-Egyptian-sort-of-Spanish guy should sound like an Edinburgh street tough)
Everyone in Highlander, let's just cover our bases.
Everyone in Titanic, too.
Everyone in Lethal Weapon II
Everyone in Captain Corelli's Mandolin
Everyone in Queen of the Damned (so ... ALL vampires, from where ever and when ever, sound like Bela Legosi?)
Brad Pitt in the Devil's Own.
Nicholas Cage, Con Air (but, so funny I'm not sure I care)
John Wayne in the Conqueror (if you haven't seen that, rent it 'cause it is BRILLIANTLY bad, Wayne plays Ghengis Khan, which should tell you everything you need to know)
John Voight in Anaconda (but he was having so much fun that, again, I don't care)
Pacino in Carlito's Way.
Meryl Streep in Dingos Ate My Baby
Mel Gibson in Braveheart (and everyone else, too, yes)
DiCaprio in Gangs of New York
Rosanna Arquette in the Whole 9 Yards
Gary Oldman in a lot, but particularly 5th Element, and, per a Romania friend, in Dracula, too

Worst Film Accent?; Poll
 

The cnn story had this quote that I thought was funny:

"From the public's perspective, our results suggest that individuals seeking stable long-term relationships should not seek the highest quality partner available, but should simply look for partners who are similar to themselves," they said"

You see, egomaniacs like me assume that by seeking the highest quality partner available, we are looking for a partner that is similar to ourselves, so we find quotes like this hard to understand.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Jinx.

God, what a FABULOUS movie. I have GOT to get it on DVD.

Worst Film Accent?
 

It's so bad it's great. Definitely a DVD to purchase. Watch it with a group of friends on a rainy day with plenty of alcohol.

It's not a stretch for Yul Brynner to be Genghis Khan as I think he was part Mongolian but John Wayne? What on earth was Hollywood thinking?

btw Bad: loved the list

Worst Film Accent?
 

Exactly. I actually shrieked with laughter when I first saw it, by accident, at about 2 am one night. That one seems to make every list of the "worst 10 movies of all time" that I've ever seen. The only other I've seen that is nearly as catastrophically bad is Battlefield Earth, which also was hilarious but so long that I actually started scrubbing the floors to avoid having to finish watching the video.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Though it doesn't involve accents, I think "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" is the worst film of all time. I never watched another episode of Friends after seeing the already-annoying Lisa Kudrow in this heinous moronathon.

Worst Film Accent?; Poll
 

I find if we are too different it doesn't work, but if I am exactly the same as the other person (this has never happened mind you) I would think that would be a problem too. My best relationships have been with people who have some differences and some similarities. And generally those things compliment each other.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Gwyneth Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love

Opposites Poll
 

I agree. Of the three long-term relatiosnhips I've had:

one was with someone completely opposite from me: she just drove me absolutely crazy. She was (and still is) nuts.

one was very similar to me: we usually agreed on everything, which meant that when we disagreed we had no idea how to handle it. All arguments were nuclear holocausts (as opposed to being at least a little bit constructive).

current SO is somewhere in between. Just right. Of course if we ever split up I'll be sure to fit her into one of the two above categories.

edited to correct spelling and re: line

Worst Film Accent?
 

Worse offenders:

Drew Barrymore, Ever After.

Chris O'Donnell, Circle of Friends.

But at least James Lipton never spooged himself over how "spot on" their accents were, as he did for Gwynnie.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Can we give an honorary nomination to Madonna for her "real life" "british" "accent"?

opposites?
 

The Mr. is basically my clone, only larger and hairier. We often complete each others sentences, voice each other's random cross-associations, and we can't play charades with one another because if one of us makes the signal for "book" the other immediately (and correctly) calls out "Kant's Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals!" We have completely congruent neuroses that (fortunately) usually kick in at different times. The only significant difference I've been able to suss out between us is that he likes Romantic composers more than Baroque, and I'm the reverse. Oh, and I like bitters and he likes lager. So as far as I'm concerned, the study is correct.

Though I had a lot of fun dating my opposites.

Say What You Want
 

Phew :partytime


Except...we're kind of in the 3rd circuit.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Only if we also give an honorable mention to everyone who has ever appeared on Masterpiece Theater.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Why, in college, when the students in English lit classes were required to read aloud from Shakespeare, did they feel it necessary to affect a British accent? Especially the drama students. What's with that?

Worst Film Accent?
 

I cracked up when you mentioned Battlefield Earth. Some of my other favorite bad movies:

(1) Waterworld
(2) The Postman
(3) Showgirls
(4) Striptease
(5) Ishtar
(6) Howard Duck
(7) Titanic
(8) G.I Jane
(9) any of the Star Wars movies released after The Empire Strikes Back
(10) any film with Madonna

A CD that I'm very happy I finally bought
 

Picked up the New Pornographers thanks to you, and I do mean thanks to you.

Worst Film Accent?
 

And while we're at it, let's pick on Kathleen Turner for her "you can't tell where the fuck I'm from, but today it sounds like it might be Italy" accent.

Until I saw Body Heat (a movie with one of the best lines of all time), I never understood her allure. She certainly could not have built a career on goodwill generated by Romancing the Stone (the first movie I saw her in).

Say What You Want
 

Perhaps more importantly, e-mail criticizing former employer is protected.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/01/em....ap/index.html

In a 4-3 decision Monday, the California Supreme Court overturned a lower-court injunction barring Kourosh Kenneth Hamidi from sending e-mail to his former colleagues. Santa Clara-based Intel had sought the injunction, arguing that Hamidi was trespassing on its computer servers just as though he were intruding on private property.

"He no more invaded Intel's property than does a protester holding a sign or shouting through a bullhorn outside corporate headquarters, posting a letter through the mail, or telephoning to complain of a corporate practice," Justice Kathryn Werdegar wrote for the in majority.

The majority's reasoning does not give a legal nod to those sending spam, or unsolicited e-mail, en masse, she noted.

Edited to add the important part: She added that Intel's chief concern was the content of his e-mails, which are protected speech.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Did anyone see the SNL skit where they had "Matt Lauer" (done pretty well by one of the newish guys) interviewing Madonna? He asks her if she has any regrets, and she says (of course), "No" (the chick playing Madonna is really good, come to think of it). The following conversation ensues:

Matt: Really? What about Shanghai Surprise?

Madonna: I never saw it.

[other bad movies -- other Madonna justifications]

Matt: What about Swept Away?

Madonna (with an eye-roll and head-toss and peevish sigh): That was a movie that wasn't supposed to be good... And if people just don't understand that, well... [loud sniff and eye roll].

I cannot think of anything she's appeared in that wasn't puke-all-over-yourself awful. (Not that I have seen the entire Madonna canon -- in no small part because of the aforementioned emetic effects.)

Worst Film Accent?
 

I'm fairly sure that's all you need to see. In fact, you're best advised to stop right there.

Worst Film Accent?
 

I did not puke all over myself when I saw "A League of Their Own", but I may have pooped my pants a little bit.

Worst Film Accent?
 

And why, when using those affected British accents, did they feel that Elizabethan royalty probably spoke with the same accent used by uptight twentieth century British twits?

Half the time the royal spouses were imports from Spain or Germany, and to the extent they came from anywhere in those islands, the Tudors and Stuarts had more Scottish than Twit blood.

Worst Film Accent?
 

And why is the hell is a British accent the world standard for classiness, particularly to Americans, when we wailed on their effete little empire? And why does every film set in ancient Rome have its actors affect British accents as if that indicates their high status? Weren't the Brits a bunch of mud-dwelling ignorant barbarians when the Romans busy were conquering half the planet?

Worst Film Accent?
 

What is that about bloodlines?