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Adder 11-03-2013 01:10 AM

Re: Bunnies!
 
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Originally Posted by sunnybunny (Post 484008)

Pretty sure you still owe any number of us. Just sayin.

Hank Chinaski 11-04-2013 12:31 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
http://img.deseretnews.com/images/ar...47/1241547.jpg

Okay, this is the hottest teacher to bang a student, yes?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 11-04-2013 01:03 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 484020)
http://img.deseretnews.com/images/ar...47/1241547.jpg

Okay, this is the hottest teacher to bang a student, yes?

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-conten...a_Lafave-1.jpg

ThurgreedMarshall 11-04-2013 01:30 PM

Interesting Article
 
Here's an article about minorities in private school that's a pretty good read: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/ny...pagewanted=all

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 11-04-2013 01:33 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 484021)

Is this woman hot or just blonde? I don't find her attractive at all.

TM

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 11-04-2013 02:38 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 484023)
Is this woman hot or just blonde? I don't find her attractive at all.

TM

Eyes are nice, but an internet search shows this picture is quite charitable to her looks.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-04-2013 03:02 PM

Re: Interesting Article
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 484022)
Here's an article about minorities in private school that's a pretty good read: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/ny...pagewanted=all

TM

She makes some excellent points, but I'd refine them in a couple of ways:

1) some points relate to being minority, but some relate to finances, and she should differentiate the two.

2) some of the disconnects would ring even truer in the average UMC suburban public school than in any prep school; I know it's more fun to beat up on prep schools, but they're actually more likely to try to productively address the issues that the public schools are.

Certainly, the private schools my kids have attended have been both more racially and more economically diverse, and more conscious of having a problem to address, than the local public school (which sets an uncommonly low standard on all scores, admittedly).

Atticus Grinch 11-04-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Interesting Article
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 484022)
Here's an article about minorities in private school that's a pretty good read: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/ny...pagewanted=all

Depressing. We have institutions here touting their "diversity," but diversity is not the finish line, integration is. What use is it to have a diverse demographic profile but not fully integrate? More harm than good in that.

In fairness to those prep schools, the identical thing happens in the public school setting when you try to integrate low SES students of color with wealthy whites. The parents and administrators have the best of intentions but there are precious few tools for making a seventh grader invite someone to a birthday party — and even if invited, what do you give to a kid who has everything? In the Hallmark movie of life, it would be a handcrafted gesture of friendship, but we don't live in that world.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-04-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 484020)
http://img.deseretnews.com/images/ar...47/1241547.jpg

Okay, this is the hottest teacher to bang a student, yes?

No. But it's definitely an example of "Batshit Crazy" eyes. She's got that look-- It's hard to describe exactly, but it's a sort of malignant peppiness... Everyone's fucked someone with those eyes and it's never good. She's nuts. Four star, card carrying crazy.

We need to hire school admins who've slept with more crazy women. These sorts of hires would never occur.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-04-2013 03:26 PM

Re: Interesting Article
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 484028)
Depressing. We have institutions here touting their "diversity," but diversity is not the finish line, integration is. What use is it to have a diverse demographic profile but not fully integrate? More harm than good in that.

In fairness to those prep schools, the identical thing happens in the public school setting when you try to integrate low SES students of color with wealthy whites. The parents and administrators have the best of intentions but there are precious few tools for making a seventh grader invite someone to a birthday party — and even if invited, what do you give to a kid who has everything? In the Hallmark movie of life, it would be a handcrafted gesture of friendship, but we don't live in that world.

what is a low SES student?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-04-2013 03:28 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 484029)
No. But it's definitely an example of "Batshit Crazy" eyes. She's got that look-- It's hard to describe exactly, but it's a sort of malignant peppiness... Everyone's fucked someone with those eyes and it's never good. She's nuts. Four star, card carrying crazy.

We need to hire school admins who've slept with more crazy women. These sorts of hires would never occur.

It's Utah, man. It's not a question of is she bat shit crazy, just what variety of bat shit crazy she is. Can't blame a Utah school admin for an inability to differentiate.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 11-04-2013 04:12 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 484031)
It's Utah, man. It's not a question of is she bat shit crazy, just what variety of bat shit crazy she is. Can't blame a Utah school admin for an inability to differentiate.

Shouldn't Utahns be better able to distinguish between varieties of bat shit crazy? They may all look alike to us, but to them?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-04-2013 04:22 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 484034)
Shouldn't Utahns be better able to distinguish between varieties of bat shit crazy? They may all look alike to us, but to them?

Eskimos have many words for snow because they can distinguish between snow's many uses: snow as building material, snow as camoflauge, snow for sledding, etc. I think the crazy is more compartmentalized for Utahns, where each has their own special batshit form that's really of no special use to anyone else. Think of Utah as a sort of big PB.

ThurgreedMarshall 11-04-2013 05:04 PM

Re: Interesting Article
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 484026)
She makes some excellent points, but I'd refine them in a couple of ways:

1) some points relate to being minority, but some relate to finances, and she should differentiate the two.

2) some of the disconnects would ring even truer in the average UMC suburban public school than in any prep school; I know it's more fun to beat up on prep schools, but they're actually more likely to try to productively address the issues that the public schools are.

Certainly, the private schools my kids have attended have been both more racially and more economically diverse, and more conscious of having a problem to address, than the local public school (which sets an uncommonly low standard on all scores, admittedly).

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 484028)
Depressing. We have institutions here touting their "diversity," but diversity is not the finish line, integration is. What use is it to have a diverse demographic profile but not fully integrate? More harm than good in that.

In fairness to those prep schools, the identical thing happens in the public school setting when you try to integrate low SES students of color with wealthy whites. The parents and administrators have the best of intentions but there are precious few tools for making a seventh grader invite someone to a birthday party — and even if invited, what do you give to a kid who has everything? In the Hallmark movie of life, it would be a handcrafted gesture of friendship, but we don't live in that world.

Guys, it's an interesting article. I wasn't posting it as the definitive take on the issue.

Clearly there are general race/class problems that must be faced everywhere in the world. You'll see it in private schools and very wealthy school districts. Yes. Well said, both of you.

I think the point of the article is to show that despite the good intentions of schools like this (especially the ones in NYC), it may not be the best option for your (minority) child, even if they are being offered a world-class education. Parents are understandably excited about it because they see the access as a great opportunity. But it turns out that the access isn't necessarily full access and the fact that these kids never really feel comfortable can do significant damage. While the schools probably have the best of intentions, based on my and my wife's experience with private schools in the city, it often feels like the rich parents' think minority kids are there as a service to the rich kids who belong--to enrich their kids' experience.

It echoes my experience in college. Poor kid from the city at a school with kids whose economic situation was quite different. The black college kids at our school ended up socializing and eating together in much the same way as those in this school. It sucks, but the rich will always find ways to remove themselves.

TM

Atticus Grinch 11-04-2013 05:08 PM

Re: Interesting Article
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 484030)
what is a low SES student?

Low socio-economic status. It's the buzzword the social scientists use when they want to talk about race but can't for various reasons.


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