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Cletus Miller 10-05-2009 04:30 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 402400)
It is not unprecedented for a Minnesota player to take less $$ to stay in Minnesota. But Hrbek was a little lazy, would have hated New York, and the Yanks probably didn't want him as much as they want Mauer.**

If Mauer leaves, I'd really hate him to go to the Yankees. I have a longstanding hatred of the Yankees that is more of a George Steinbrenner hatred but it has spread to the whole organization.

**I don't recall which team offered Hrbek more, but it probably wasn't the Yanks.
Seattle and Detroit. And the diff was $200-300k per year for 5 years. Money he would have largely spent on an in season place and flying his family around the country. It's not like the $5mm+ (times 5 or 6 years) difference Mauer (and Morneau) are going to be faced with.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-05-2009 05:00 PM
C'mon
 
We are not comparing Joe Mauer to Kent Fucking Hrbek.

ETA: I guess he was okay in RBI Baseball.

http://www.renoise.com/indepth/wp-co...bibaseball.gif

Adder 10-05-2009 05:00 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 402403)
But with the Yankees, he'd have a better shot of being in post-season play more often. The potential of a World Series ring to two might be a bigger lure than the money. But if you're going to the Yankees, you've got to get every last cent possible to make up for the much more critical fans and press, not to mention the increased COL.
True, but right now he is looking at hitting behind Span and ahead of Morneau, Kubel, Cuddyer and Young for the next five or so years, hopefully with Cabrera in there for awhile too. That's actually almost a Yankee-level offense (if they only had some pitching).

Span - .312, 179 hits, 23 steals,
Cabrera - .292
Mauer - .364, 28 HR, 96 RBI, 1.027 OPS
Morneau (including post injury) - .274, 30 HR, 100 RBI
Kubel - .300, 27 HR, 102 RBI
Cuddyear - .276, 32 HR, 94 RBI
Young - .285, 12 HR, 60 RBI

Although I think the Twins need to give serious consideration to moving him to third next year to replace the always injured Crede and get Morales (.316) into the lineup

Adder 10-05-2009 05:03 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 402407)
Seattle and Detroit. And the diff was $200-300k per year for 5 years. Money he would have largely spent on an in season place and flying his family around the country. It's not like the $5mm+ (times 5 or 6 years) difference Mauer (and Morneau) are going to be faced with.
And Kent was a guy who would very much rather be hunting and fishing than hitting the clubs.

Morneau should be interesting though. Yanks don't need a first baseman, although I guess the Sox have the option of moving Youklis back to third.

Cletus Miller 10-05-2009 05:21 PM
Re: C'mon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 402411)
We are not comparing Joe Mauer to Kent Fucking Hrbek.
Hrbek was offered what would have been the third or fourth largest contract (total dollars) in baseball then. So, yeah, it's a semi-legit comparison. Texeira has the current 3d largest contract ($180mm/8 yrs), and one would expect that's about what the Yanks would offer Mauer.

Pretty Little Flower 10-05-2009 05:23 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 402403)
Once you are rich beyond your dreams, you don't really need to be richer.
This is such fucking buillshit.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2009 05:26 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 402403)
I don't know if it would be only about the money. Once you are rich beyond your dreams, you don't really need to be richer.
Girl, you need some wilder dreams.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-05-2009 05:29 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 402412)
True, but right now he is looking at hitting behind Span and ahead of Morneau, Kubel, Cuddyer and Young for the next five or so years, hopefully with Cabrera in there for awhile too. That's actually almost a Yankee-level offense (if they only had some pitching).

Span - .312, 179 hits, 23 steals,
Cabrera - .292
Mauer - .364, 28 HR, 96 RBI, 1.027 OPS
Morneau (including post injury) - .274, 30 HR, 100 RBI
Kubel - .300, 27 HR, 102 RBI
Cuddyear - .276, 32 HR, 94 RBI
Young - .285, 12 HR, 60 RBI

Although I think the Twins need to give serious consideration to moving him to third next year to replace the always injured Crede and get Morales (.316) into the lineup
Uh...take your pick. Mauer and Morneau or playoff level-pitching.

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-05-2009 05:31 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 402381)


so our best hitter got bombed Friday night, before what had become a must win game Saturday. I don't know if I buy into the "sober player plays better" meme (hi Ty!) but the guy did stink up the weekend. I suppose he could argue he took White Sox players, that is more than one, out with him, so overall it helped?
I can't figure out who he with. My guesses: Alex Rios and Octavio Dotel.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-05-2009 05:35 PM
Facebook etiquette
 
The mother of decades-ago ex just friended me on Facebook. Isn't that a little weird? She was always a good person, the kind of person I wouldn't want to say "no" to.

Adder 10-05-2009 05:37 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 402417)
Uh...take your pick. Mauer and Morneau or playoff level-pitching.
With the Twins, you never know when they are going to find a Rule 5 guy (Santana) or trade a journeyman catcher (Nathan and Lirano), or a second basemand (Eric Milton) or veteran star (Tapani and Aguilera). Or, unfortunately, trade a stud pitcher for a backup outfielder (Gomez). But yeah, it's a crap shoot.

Cletus Miller 10-05-2009 05:43 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 402418)
I can't figure out who he with. My guesses: Alex Rios and Octavio Dotel.
Who are the Sox from Venezuela? Freddy and, of course, Ozzie.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2009 05:45 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 402419)
The mother of decades-ago ex just friended me on Facebook. Isn't that a little weird? She was always a good person, the kind of person I wouldn't want to say "no" to.
Cu-cu-ca-choo!

I'm facing a facebook friend dilemna. I've been friended by THE asshole in my high school class of 35 people. I suffered 4 years of often racist harangues, physical threats, and occassional acts of violence (he threw me over a couple rows of chairs in the middle of class in a political argument). But now he friends me?

How long am I entitled to hold a grudge?

Adder 10-05-2009 05:49 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402422)
Cu-cu-ca-choo!

I'm facing a facebook friend dilemna. I've been friended by THE asshole in my high school class of 35 people. I suffered 4 years of often racist harangues, physical threats, and occassional acts of violence (he threw me over a couple rows of chairs in the middle of class in a political argument). But now he friends me?

How long am I entitled to hold a grudge?
Forever.

I got a friend request from a similar guy (although without the physical threats and acts of violence -I was bigger than him, although he was crazier), but being not very good at saying no, accepted. He is now on ignore.

Hank Chinaski 10-05-2009 05:50 PM
Re: C'mon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 402414)
Hrbek was offered what would have been the third or fourth largest contract (total dollars) in baseball then. So, yeah, it's a semi-legit comparison. Texeira has the current 3d largest contract ($180mm/8 yrs), and one would expect that's about what the Yanks would offer Mauer.
I'm not sure you can compare then to now. Maybe ask Flower if people's attitudes have changed about this topic since way back then?

ThurgreedMarshall 10-05-2009 05:51 PM
Serious Question.
 
GWNC, is this what your boxing class is like?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.nacho...2b759f904.jpeg

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 10-05-2009 05:53 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402422)
Cu-cu-ca-choo!

I'm facing a facebook friend dilemna. I've been friended by THE asshole in my high school class of 35 people. I suffered 4 years of often racist harangues, physical threats, and occassional acts of violence (he threw me over a couple rows of chairs in the middle of class in a political argument). But now he friends me?

How long am I entitled to hold a grudge?
Where's your dilemma? Tell him to fuck off.

TM

PresentTense Pirate Penske 10-05-2009 05:58 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 402415)
This is such fucking buillshit.
2~! Also, I think it is fucking bullshit, as well. Concur?

ps: Ahoy!

PresentTense Pirate Penske 10-05-2009 05:59 PM
Re: Two Things:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402416)
Girl, you need some wilder dreams.
I want more than enough.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 10-05-2009 06:00 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402422)
Cu-cu-ca-choo!

I'm facing a facebook friend dilemna. I've been friended by THE asshole in my high school class of 35 people. I suffered 4 years of often racist harangues, physical threats, and occassional acts of violence (he threw me over a couple rows of chairs in the middle of class in a political argument). But now he friends me?

How long am I entitled to hold a grudge?
Any client potential? In the alternative what is the SoL on intentional infliction of emotional distress?

Cletus Miller 10-05-2009 06:03 PM
Re: C'mon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 402424)
I'm not sure you can compare then to now. Maybe ask Flower if people's attitudes have changed about this topic since way back then?
That's fair. Perhaps cultural norms have changed so much that what was considered a baseball player in Minnesota in 1989 would be considered a serial flasher in western North Dakota today. Hrbek would be lucky to get away with 12 months in county lockup, if he were a free agent this year.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 10-05-2009 06:37 PM
Re: C'mon
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 402430)
That's fair. Perhaps cultural norms have changed so much that what was considered a baseball player in Minnesota in 1989 would be considered a serial flasher in western North Dakota today. Hrbek would be lucky to get away with 12 months in county lockup, if he were a free agent this year.
If he could be sentenced to that by Judge Herman thomas he might be able to get even luckier :eek:

Ouch!l

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2009 07:07 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 402429)
Any client potential? In the alternative what is the SoL on intentional infliction of emotional distress?
I doubt there is client potential, though his page claims he is now running his own technology company in Tennessee.

I am sure his view is that my continued reference to him as a "fucking racist cracker" justified everything, but, then, he was, quite overtly, a fucking racist cracker.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2009 07:07 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 402426)
Where's your dilemma? Tell him to fuck off.

TM
Yeh, actually, the more I think about, the more I wish I could respond not by clicking "ignore" but "fuck off" - can we ask facebook to get a "fuck off" button?

PresentTense Pirate Penske 10-05-2009 07:20 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402433)
Yeh, actually, the more I think about, the more I wish I could respond not by clicking "ignore" but "fuck off" - can we ask facebook to get a "fuck off" button?
Can't you friend him and then post a "fuck you racist cracker" message to his facebook and then, shortly thereafter de-friend him? Seems like that might be an even better "fuck you" strategy.

leagleaze 10-05-2009 07:45 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 402426)
Where's your dilemma? Tell him to fuck off.
Agreed, nothing says you have to be friends with anyone on facebook. It doesn't sound like you are holding a grudge, it just sounds like you just don't like the asshole.

Another note apparently thigh high boots are very popular. http://projectrungay.blogspot.com/20...igh-boots.html

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2009 07:50 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leagleaze (Post 402436)
Agreed, nothing says you have to be friends with anyone on facebook. It doesn't sound like you are holding a grudge, it just sounds like you just don't like the asshole.

Another note apparently thigh high boots are very popular. http://projectrungay.blogspot.com/20...igh-boots.html
Two things:

1. I really don't know if he's still an asshole. He may have reformed himself. It happens.

2. Even today, after many years of being wholly unaware of his existence, thinking back on our time together in High School, and the things that were said and done, I can honestly say that I do, very truly and sincerely, hold a deep-seated grudge against the fucking asshole.

Hank Chinaski 10-05-2009 07:59 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402437)
Two things:

1. I really don't know if he's still an asshole. He may have reformed himself. It happens.

2. Even today, after many years of being wholly unaware of his existence, thinking back on our time together in High School, and the things that were said and done, I can honestly say that I do, very truly and sincerely, hold a deep-seated grudge against the fucking asshole.
1 ignoring the request is easy- you could simply be ignorant of the where to see requests. passive aggressive maybe

2 i have a good friend from bumfuck Oklahoma- one sister married an Egyptian another an AA guy- a guy who was a friend in HS (unknown as a racist), friends him. my guy figures the guy can't be so bad still so he accepts- once he was a "friend" the racist posts some pix from HS and tags my guy. that gives his sisters a feed and they go to the racist guy's page. turns out the racist guy is now a racist and has some seriously nasty anti-muslim and black shit up. both sisters gave him grief.

once i heard the story i unfriended coltrane- plus the hat always bothered me about him.

evenodds 10-05-2009 08:28 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402437)
Two things:

1. I really don't know if he's still an asshole. He may have reformed himself. It happens.

2. Even today, after many years of being wholly unaware of his existence, thinking back on our time together in High School, and the things that were said and done, I can honestly say that I do, very truly and sincerely, hold a deep-seated grudge against the fucking asshole.
I live far from my hometown, but I have recently reconnected with old school chums via facebook, including a girl who had bullied me mercilessly. I still remember the sting of her taunts (and how ridiculous they actually were). Not unlike Tina Fey in that 30 Rock ep, apparently I had my moments of bully-dom, but that's just sort of what adolescence is like.

She now lives here and we have become friends again. Speaking to her about our experiences and our hometown and the strangeness thereof (it's a seriously strange place) has been really edifying.

Even though our lives are very different, we have some fundamental things in common, a way of looking at the world that's not necessarily shared by other friends in our lives.

So, you never know, he might have changed and you may gain something valuable. If not, I keep a lot of people on ignore and set into groups so they can't see anything anyway.

evenodds 10-05-2009 08:33 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leagleaze (Post 402436)
Another note apparently thigh high boots are very popular. http://projectrungay.blogspot.com/20...igh-boots.html
I tried some on last weekend and they are extremely challenging to wear. To make them look right, proportionally, I had to wear either jeans or leggings under them or a very short skirt. No matter how we styled it, I looked like a whore.

Er, more of a whore than usual.

Adder 10-05-2009 08:39 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 402440)
I looked like a whore.
You say that like it is a bad thing.

leagleaze 10-05-2009 09:40 PM
Re: Facebook etiquette
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 402437)
Two things:

1. I really don't know if he's still an asshole. He may have reformed himself. It happens.

2. Even today, after many years of being wholly unaware of his existence, thinking back on our time together in High School, and the things that were said and done, I can honestly say that I do, very truly and sincerely, hold a deep-seated grudge against the fucking asshole.
I think this is causing you more angst than it is worth. If you don't like him, for whatever reason, don't friend him. If you want to find out if he has changed, friend him. You can always unfriend him later.

ltl/fb 10-05-2009 10:18 PM
Protein powder, chocolate
 
What store do I buy this in if I could not find it at the fancy, large, new grocery store in West Hollywood? Or do I need to look harder? Whole Foods?Vitamin store at the mall? I would rather not order it from online. Thanks. I feel I am not getting enough protein.

evenodds 10-05-2009 10:20 PM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 402443)
What store do I buy this in if I could not find it at the fancy, large, new grocery store in West Hollywood? Or do I need to look harder? Whole Foods?Vitamin store at the mall? I would rather not order it from online. Thanks. I feel I am not getting enough protein.
Whole Foods has a ton of protein powders. I recommend whey over soy.

Hank Chinaski 10-05-2009 10:33 PM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 402443)
What store do I buy this in if I could not find it at the fancy, large, new grocery store in West Hollywood? Or do I need to look harder? Whole Foods?Vitamin store at the mall? I would rather not order it from online. Thanks. I feel I am not getting enough protein.
i. am. married.

ltl/fb 10-05-2009 10:53 PM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 402444)
Whole Foods has a ton of protein powders. I recommend whey over soy.
Gotcha. Good to know.

ltl/fb 10-05-2009 10:54 PM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 402445)
i. am. married.
Powder?

Hank Chinaski 10-05-2009 11:02 PM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 402448)
Powder?
sure. shipping/handling $20 in advance.

bold_n_brazen 10-06-2009 08:23 AM
Re: Protein powder, chocolate
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 402444)
Whole Foods has a ton of protein powders. I recommend whey over soy.
Both whey and soy tend to upset my stomach. I am a big fan of the Jay Robb egg white powders which I buy at the local health food store but which I believe you can also get at Whole Foods.

bold_n_brazen 10-06-2009 08:28 AM
Excellent.
 
http://boulder.craigslist.org/etc/1406819680.html


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