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SEC_Chick 04-08-2016 09:19 AM

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For today's update in the incompetence of the Trump campaign, I bring you Colorado.

Colorado has 37 delegates: 3 for state GOP leaders, 13 at-large delegates representing the entire state, and 21 for the state Congressional Districts (3 per Congressional district). The CD delegates are being elected this week and the state-wide delegates will be elected at the state convention tomorrow. Ted Cruz was generally the only one who has been active in securing CO delegates (no surprise), but over the past couple of days Trump realized that he may need some organizational help in that regard and that winning states is only the first step in the process. It seems his hiring of the "best people" hasn't been enough.

CO has allowed each delegate to decide whether to endorse a candidate on the first ballot. Ted Cruz swept the first day, and Donald canceled his attendance at the convention Saturday to stay in NY, but Trump did submit a slate of delegates for district #7 yesterday. Unfortunately, his slate was filled with Cruz supporters. All three delegates were on the Cruz slate as was the first alternate. Of the remaining two alternates, one was unpledged and one a non-slate Cruz supporter. To add insult to injury, two of Trump's delegates didn't even show up on the ballot because they didn't pay the fee. Shockingly, Cruz swept all of the delegates in district #7.

Even when Trump tries to play the delegate game, rather than ignoring it, he fails pretty awesomely. Cue up complaints about how Lyin' Ted "stole" his CO delegates.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-08-2016 12:17 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500248)
For today's update in the incompetence of the Trump campaign, I bring you Colorado.

Colorado has 37 delegates: 3 for state GOP leaders, 13 at-large delegates representing the entire state, and 21 for the state Congressional Districts (3 per Congressional district). The CD delegates are being elected this week and the state-wide delegates will be elected at the state convention tomorrow. Ted Cruz was generally the only one who has been active in securing CO delegates (no surprise), but over the past couple of days Trump realized that he may need some organizational help in that regard and that winning states is only the first step in the process. It seems his hiring of the "best people" hasn't been enough.

CO has allowed each delegate to decide whether to endorse a candidate on the first ballot. Ted Cruz swept the first day, and Donald canceled his attendance at the convention Saturday to stay in NY, but Trump did submit a slate of delegates for district #7 yesterday. Unfortunately, his slate was filled with Cruz supporters. All three delegates were on the Cruz slate as was the first alternate. Of the remaining two alternates, one was unpledged and one a non-slate Cruz supporter. To add insult to injury, two of Trump's delegates didn't even show up on the ballot because they didn't pay the fee. Shockingly, Cruz swept all of the delegates in district #7.

Even when Trump tries to play the delegate game, rather than ignoring it, he fails pretty awesomely. Cue up complaints about how Lyin' Ted "stole" his CO delegates.

Ted, just admit it...

This meme needs to stick. Because honestly, though far, far apart, these Teds are on the same continuum of creepiness.

This is not hyperbole. Cruz is a person of such unique ickiness, he goes in the "Could Easily Have Been a Serial Killer if Born Into a Less Functional Home" category.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-08-2016 12:29 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 500181)
I don't think her principles are as lacking as you claim, but I agree with you that she's going to go with the flow at times, as she did with Iraq, and that sucks, but it still sucks way less than all of the other alternatives.

I don't fault her for being a soulless cipher at times. That's part of politics. But I do want to see her and those who behave like her (meaning most politicians) degraded and debased.

People who seek power at almost any cost are congenitally defective. We should be wary of them, and they should be made to suffer amazing indignities to get what they want.

We all know she's going to win the election. But she's a lousy human being, and she really, really wants it (think Reese Witherspoon's creepy class president in Election). These sorts should be driven through the square and pelted with every rotten egg and spoiled tomato in the village before ascending the highest office. And they should never forget, even most of those voting for them wanted desperately to vote for someone - almost anyone - else.

ETA: The more politicians are debased, the more the process is debased, the less respect is given to the institutions. The less people fear them, and the more people are willing to subvert and test them. Delegitimization is a form of slow, quiet revolution.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 12:33 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500249)
Ted, just admit it...

This meme needs to stick. Because honestly, though far, far apart, these Teds are on the same continuum of creepiness.

This is not hyperbole. Cruz is a person of such unique ickiness, he goes in the "Could Easily Have Been a Serial Killer if Born Into a Less Functional Home" category.

It is amazing. But remember, he's running to lead the war on women. Who better?

Sidd Finch 04-08-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500248)
Cue up complaints about how Lyin' Ted "stole" his CO delegates.

Some of my more conservative Facebook friends were posting attacks on Hillary Clinton a few months ago (I mean, they always post attacks on her -- did you know she murdered Vince Foster? -- but these were about a specific issue), because she was "stealing" the nomination by getting super-delegates to support her.

I have concerns about the super-delegate system -- I certainly did in 2008, but then they appropriately supported Obama -- but my reaction to such posts was, in essence "how DARE she play by the rules!"

Those sort of attacks appear to have vanished lately. Could be coincidence (heh), could be that the new information they have on Vince Foster seems more interesting (double-heh), or could be that the right realized that they are engaged in much sneakier machinations and not in a position to point fingers....

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 12:43 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500248)
For today's update in the incompetence of the Trump campaign, I bring you Colorado.

Colorado has 37 delegates: 3 for state GOP leaders, 13 at-large delegates representing the entire state, and 21 for the state Congressional Districts (3 per Congressional district). The CD delegates are being elected this week and the state-wide delegates will be elected at the state convention tomorrow. Ted Cruz was generally the only one who has been active in securing CO delegates (no surprise), but over the past couple of days Trump realized that he may need some organizational help in that regard and that winning states is only the first step in the process. It seems his hiring of the "best people" hasn't been enough.

CO has allowed each delegate to decide whether to endorse a candidate on the first ballot. Ted Cruz swept the first day, and Donald canceled his attendance at the convention Saturday to stay in NY, but Trump did submit a slate of delegates for district #7 yesterday. Unfortunately, his slate was filled with Cruz supporters. All three delegates were on the Cruz slate as was the first alternate. Of the remaining two alternates, one was unpledged and one a non-slate Cruz supporter. To add insult to injury, two of Trump's delegates didn't even show up on the ballot because they didn't pay the fee. Shockingly, Cruz swept all of the delegates in district #7.

Even when Trump tries to play the delegate game, rather than ignoring it, he fails pretty awesomely. Cue up complaints about how Lyin' Ted "stole" his CO delegates.

For today's update on incompetence on the Campaign Trail we have the latest from "New York Values" Cruz, who is now in a distant third behind a week Kasich: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...in-third-place

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/...che=8iboilirfr

I have a cousin in NY who is a big trump supporter. Her facebook page these days is rockin'. They're having fun putting this ass in his place. From what I can see, the next couple weeks are all about an entire state hating on Cruz.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 12:46 PM

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Another favorite:

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.ne...U0UkAAQyIN.jpg

The News has a ton of great Cruz covers: "Below the Beltway", on his sex scandal, is one of my favorites.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 12:48 PM

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Long and short of it: there is an increasing chance that Trump will take all of NY's delegates, even though it is not a statewide winner-take-all state, putting him right back in the hunt for a first ballot victory.

And it is all about how much New Yorkers hate Ted Cruz. Even though he comes from a country that is right next door.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-08-2016 12:55 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500255)
Long and short of it: there is an increasing chance that Trump will take all of NY's votes, even though it is not a winner-take-all state, putting him right back in the hunt for a first ballot victory.

And it is all about how much New Yorkers hate Ted Cruz.

The entire Mid Atlantic and Northeast hates Cruz.

That worn out argument, used in every election, that the South and Midwest represent "real" American values needs to be retired. Perhaps this will finally do it.

ETA: And take off those ridiculous cowboy boots, you tool.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 01:02 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500256)
The entire Mid Atlantic and Northeast hates Cruz.

That worn out argument, used in every election, that the South and Midwest represent "real" American values needs to be retired. Perhaps this will finally do it.

ETA: And take off those ridiculous cowboy boots, you tool.

And really, when you go to the South, isn't the real culture there African American?

Hank Chinaski 04-08-2016 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500257)
And really, when you go to the South, isn't the real culture there African American?

Huh? You ever see Flower or Thurgreed linking to this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYY2FQHFwE

SEC_Chick 04-08-2016 01:51 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500255)
Long and short of it: there is an increasing chance that Trump will take all of NY's delegates, even though it is not a statewide winner-take-all state, putting him right back in the hunt for a first ballot victory.

And it is all about how much New Yorkers hate Ted Cruz. Even though he comes from a country that is right next door.

That is the exact opposite of what I have read. The problem for Trump is that, even worse than the voter registration deadline being past, the deadline for changing your party affiliation on existing voter registrations was last October. Given that Trump canceled an appearance in CA and his appearance at the CO state convention because he's not leaving NY until after the primary, it seems that Trump is in panic mode more than exuding confidence. Trump needs 85 delegates out of NY, which means he needs to break 50% in all but 6 of the congressional districts. In places like the Bronx, where there are exceedingly few registered Rs (and 11K votes can put you over 50%), even Pataki is saying Cruz has a chance to peel off delegates.

From Redstate, Trump is still failing at the delegate selection game. This time Washington state:

"Good: Team Trump sent out an email blast to loyal Trump supporters encouraging them to go sign up to be potential Trump delegates in Washington State. Yay!
◾Bad: Well, they mixed up the location a little, and sent that email blast to Trump supporters in Washington, DC. Boo!
◾TRUMP: …and the deadline to sign up for being a delegate in Washington State was two days ago. Dur!"

Replaced_Texan 04-08-2016 02:05 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500256)

ETA: And take off those ridiculous cowboy boots, you tool.


FWIW, I'd say a good 20-40 percent of the population wears cowboy boots somewhat regularly down here, including me. My brother has a boot guy down in the Valley if you're interested in a custom pair.

Adder 04-08-2016 02:11 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500259)
Trump needs 85 delegates out of NY, which means he needs to break 50% in all but 6 of the congressional districts.

fivethirtyeight currently has him projected at ~52% and a >99% chance of "winning."

sebastian_dangerfield 04-08-2016 02:30 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 500260)
FWIW, I'd say a good 20-40 percent of the population wears cowboy boots somewhat regularly down here, including me. My brother has a boot guy down in the Valley if you're interested in a custom pair.

Down there it's fine. In the DC-Boston corridor, it's a bit much. Particularly when you've just insulted the nation's true capitol, claiming you're from "real" America.

I would wear snakeskin cowboy boots. But for now, I'll stick with the pairs of Chelseas.


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