LawTalkers - Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

If I could more concisely make my point, it's that racism remains a problem, but a significant portion of what appears to be racism is actually classism's collateral impact.

I may be wrong, but I think Thurgreed's point was that it is not a coincidence that class lines follow race lines closely. The parallel is not only intentional, but reflective of the fact that one of the things the upper classes have done is work hard to ensure that Blacks, Hispanics, and other races have limited opportunities for upward mobility. Hence the discomfort so many people of the upper classes have in the company of minorities who wind up in their world.

Pretty Little Flower

11-07-2013 12:08 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 484199)

"I hate intellectual conversation with intellectuals because I only care about my opinion." - Karl Lagerfeld

"I'm gonna [expletive] your mother with an [expletive] from under the [expletive] [expletive] without removing the [expletive] or the [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] motherfucker." - Richie Incognito

ThurgreedMarshall

11-07-2013 12:14 PM

Re: I am the Thurax, and I Speak for the Minorities

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 484198)

I think it's hysterical you're speaking for all minorities. Minorities aren't a monolith on this or anything else, and among ten of them, I'm pretty confident you'll find three or four different positions on how they'd like to be considered and described.

I defer to your clearly superior knowledge of the topic.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield

11-07-2013 12:23 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 484201)

"I want all of that. Wearing a velvet dog collar." - Karl Lagerfeld

Replaced_Texan

11-07-2013 12:30 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 484192)

I'm with you (from your first post) on this one. If it never occurred to your kid to tell you he has a black friend, that's awesome.

But don't fall into this "I don't see race," fallacy. It's perfectly okay to describe someone to another person using their race. It's part of who they are. "Deb is the tall, black woman who sits on 4," is very different than, "I was out late last night with my black friend, Deb." As you, of course, know, minorities don't expect or want their differences to be ignored. They want them respected. And they expect to not be judged unfairly based on the stereotypes such differences evoke.

TM

Absolutely. Especially when "not seeing" a characteristic can often mean removing a really important part of who someone is.

Tyrone Slothrop

11-07-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 484189)

If I were a law school professor, I would find a way to include an individual in the witness protection program as a character in each of my exam questions, I would call that individual "Richie Incognito".

You know what would be awesome? "Picabo Incognito."

Tyrone Slothrop

11-07-2013 12:41 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 484195)

Actually, I did read the Jezebel article. Holy crap.

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But I'm not sure you can call that "racism." You don't really know what the homeowner was thinking. It could have been a practical joke gone bad. Or some kind of tribal thing. That stuff happens all the time.

taxwonk

11-07-2013 12:46 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 484125)

The assumption one group is "better" is not the norm.

Never, ever, in your life, have you been so wrong about something.

Hank Chinaski

11-07-2013 12:48 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 484206)

FWIW, i don't think we have stand your ground, at least not to the extent Fla does.

Tyrone Slothrop

11-07-2013 12:52 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

Some of us have been focused on Sacha Kljestan’s pornstache for a while, but now the story has really broken out.

Icky Thump

11-07-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Interesting Article

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 484201)

Sorry, but if you let someone talk to you like that you're a fucking pussy who has no place in an NFL locker room.

Replaced_Texan

11-07-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 484209)

Some of us have been focused on Sacha Kljestan’s pornstache for a while, but now the story has really broken out.

Speaking of soccer, holy fuck Dynamo!! I wasn't expecting them to pull off a win in New York after only drawing here. That was awesome. Bring on Kansas City!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

11-07-2013 01:12 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 484209)

Some of us have been focused on Sacha Kljestan’s pornstache for a while, but now the story has really broken out.

Movember is a great excuse for any mistakes like that, or just because you felt like not shaving that day.

(It is not, however, an excuse to have a prostate exam on live television).

Tyrone Slothrop

11-07-2013 01:37 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 484212)

Movember is a great excuse for any mistakes like that, or just because you felt like not shaving that day.

(It is not, however, an excuse to have a prostate exam on live television).

He has been sporting that one for a while.

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