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All of the lies proffered by Ty and TurdShifter have come from blogs.

Ergo, it's only fair to point that out.

PS- You know I have no truck in your fight with Penske, so leave me the fuck out of it, for numerous reasons. Bitch, :-)

It would have been a bit more time if he had received even a hearing in the Democratic controlled Senate in the early 90's, no? Ironic that the D's have less to attack since they prevented him from exposing them to his views starting 12 years ago. Good job!

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There might be turmoil but that doesn't make it unconstitutional. There's turmoil in DC every year on the anniversary of Roe too.

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Hey, I'd be all for it, if they could just amend the law to state that the man who knocks the woman up has to spend nine months carrying an equally heavy weight, and has to live with the child until adulthood.

I think that'd be fair, but try selling that to the promiscuous assholes who try to fuck everything they can get drunk then run away when their seduction reaps unexpected results.

If there must be responsibility for the fucking, then that responsibility must be apportioned equaled to both parties involved in the act. Only seems fair to me...

No, paternity and child support are not enough. He's got to suck up exactly the same shit the pregnant woman has to. If we can work that through legislation, I agree with you 100%.

Lets see how far that goes on Capitol Hill.

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I think we all assume more risk knowing that we can take care of things if our risk/benefit calculations were wrong.

I think the Dems should just wave this one through. We should be thankful it wasn't Brown or Coulter or somebody. The R's on the Gang of 14 will never buy this one as an extraordinary circumstance, so Roberts will sail through. If a Dem senator tries to filibuster, the right will shriek and howl about how unreasonable they are, and I personally wouldn't disagree. Let's get back to discussing what a slimebag Karl Rove is, asap.

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I'm on board with that. Should we send out the highly coordinated e-mails to our bretheren and sistren on the left and have them all retreat in an orderly manner?

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You have a problem with the "opt-out" right?

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My guess is that you are wrong, but we'll never know because it will never happen, mostly because of the turmoil.

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You're missing a large part of the problem: how to deal with the unwanted child. It's great to say personal responsibility when the result if a fried brain or an ugly tattoo. But pregnancy results in more than that.

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Uh, the Senate has and has had rules requiring supermajorities to raise taxes, raise spending, raise spending without raising taxes, at various points. So, where's the turmoil?

Also, the Cal. legislature's rule is irrelevant to the U.S. constitutional discussion. Unless you're saying it violates the guarantee clause, and it makes Cal's gov't non-republican.

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Every child a wanted child. I feel strongly about this.

Oh, and they did a study on kids who are now 8 who were born very prematurely (like 29 weeks, I think -- it's on Yahoo or CNN or NYT today) and something like 79% had some kind of developmental disorder/disability. Just wanted to throw that into the mix of magical trimesters, because 29 weeks is just over the edge into the *third* trimester, I think.

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Opt out? I'm sorry. I don't understand.

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You do realize you're offering a new Gordian Knot here. I've avoided the "when is it ok to abort due to birth defect" area because I think this one will really rub some nerves raw.

That said, when my wife has a kid, we're getting every test they can give to make sure its ok. If its not, even if we have to go to Switzerland, that kid ain't getting born.

Boy am I lucky to not be poor in a GOP revolution...

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It's a wonderful "works great in theory, sorta" thing he and DS blather on about. And possibly Less. Something about the guy contractually opting out of responsibility for any child that results from sex he has.

I look forward to this discussion.

ETA I think a guy and I have a tacit understanding that if he doesn't yap about politics, I won't explicitly say that if I ever got pregnant, I would absolutely not have the kid. It's a much more satisfactory relationship.