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John Phoenix 12-08-2009 11:27 PM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 409889)
i'm at the Fed Cir, and can use Metro like a pro, but no car.

Burger U between what and what?

U Street between 9th and 14th. While you're there, get a cupcake from Cake Love (15th and U).

evenodds 12-08-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 409857)
I am fond of The Awl too. I hope those crazy kids start to make some money soon.

I love them enough I've thought about kicking in some ducats for them.

evenodds 12-08-2009 11:56 PM

Re: One more post about ABBA...
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 409876)
How could you leave out his ginormous, throbbing cock?

Actually, he was the least endowed of the men with whom I've slept, which is not exactly a large sample size. I assume he took roids at some point, but he was not rocking it in the ginormous, throbbing cock department.

cheval de frise 12-08-2009 11:59 PM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 409882)
okay. you've got 2 hours in DC and need to get to some truly unique gift shoping: where to go? (for woman and children that have everything so unique is the key word, or offbeat)

If you're going to be near Union Station, there's a store in there that sells interesting natural science-type stuff: necklaces made of ancient amber, art glass, fossils (really beautifully presented), geodes, jewelry, etc. I think it's called Fire & Ice. I saw an iron-nickel meteorite in there a couple of years ago (it was a fragment recovered from a big strike in Africa 80-90 years ago). All types of price points.

CDF

evenodds 12-09-2009 12:00 AM

Re: I need a car
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 409890)
I have yet to meet anyone who has said "I hate(d) my Acura." They are well-reviewed and safe cars. I love our RDX (except for the gas mileage).

My two best friends drive Acuras. My only complaint with them: their interior finishes are substandard relative to price point.

evenodds 12-09-2009 12:21 AM

Traumatized
 
So, tonight was a very bad night.

It began, innocently enough, with my deciding last minute to dash down to my work out. For me, that meant calling a cab, as I live about 7 minutes away and parking can be a bear.

I live downtown, so I take cabs all the time. Usually, the drivers are courteous. Tonight, I thought he was going to kill me. I wish I were exaggerating, but I felt close to death in the back of my cab.

He was imminently suicidal, and I thought, at best, he was going to drive off a bridge with me in the cab. I began a text to my best friends, letting them know what was happening. I did not send it. Instead, I made peace with the universe and contemplated exactly how he was going to kill himself, and by extension, me.

I had him drop me at the first available place, still blocks from my destination, and he refused my money because it just did not matter.

I made it to my workout, shaken by the near-death experience, and was completely freaked. Afterward, I began drinking with my friends. I am a lightweight so I am hammered from exactly 3 drinks -- a shot, a goose and soda, and a cocktail.

This is the kind of thing I am incapable of fully processing right now, but I have rarely been so terrified and I do not frighten easily.

Jack Manfred 12-09-2009 12:38 AM

Re: One more post about ABBA...
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 409862)
That poster was me. I defer to your greater experience with regard to the criminal consequences of DV, but I remain convinced that mandatory arrest laws impose too high a cost to the autonomy of women measured against the obvious benefit of penalizing shitbag abusers. You deal with the criminal justice aspect; my line of work intersects with all of the other social services that the family relies upon while Dad sits in jail and thinks about what he has done. The idea that a victim does not have sole say in the consequences of a crime is a wonderful development -- in fact, it make be a useful hallmark of a civilized society -- but depriving police officers of discretion in making arrests is (in my view) nearly always a statement of frustration by well-intentioned legislators that the facts in this world are not as we would like them to be, so we will proceed bull-headedly to behave as though they are as we believe.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 409868)
This is all very heady, but isn't the law the way it is because once the offender knew the cops were coming, he would just threaten the woman (in most cases) to say nothing was going on with the understanding that if (i) if she didn't act like nothing was wrong or (ii) if he went to jail, there would be absolute hell to pay? Doesn't this remove (to some extent) that consequence since people in this position understand that the cops are taking them in no matter what either person says (even over the sometimes false protests of the victim)? If that's the case, it would seem that a night in jail would be more of a cooling off period than an opportunity for the rage in the offender to grow to murderous proportions.

And wasn't it also drawn up the way it is now because police had proven time and time again that they were incapable of using their discretion in these situations, often just siding with the guy and telling the couple to handle the problem on their own at great risk to the woman?

I don't think the law was drafted simply as a statement of frustration. And, once again, you give the police way too much credit.

Thurgreed illustrates why giving police discretion on DV cases is a bad idea. I'm in favor of discretion - for prosecutors. Most DA's offices routinely turn down loads of DV cases, especially the misdemeanor ones. But having a record of the arrest can be useful in seeing whether there's a pattern of escalation or of mutual combat.

If I were able to construct a system from scratch, I would probably emphasize early intervention and diversion programs to avoid convictions and even pleas that can have employment and immigration consequences. As I have to work within the system as it exists, I'd rather that prosecutors exercise discretion days after the event than entrust that role to police officers who may arrive while things are going down or shortly thereafter.

[RANT] Speaking of well-intentioned legislators, the California legislators who decided to give victims of domestic violence the "right" to refuse to testify are as bull-headed as you suspect. When abusers know that they can get their victims to "empower" themselves by opting out of the criminal justice system, justice is not served. [/RANT]

Jack Manfred 12-09-2009 12:45 AM

Re: I need a car
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 409890)
I have yet to meet anyone who has said "I hate(d) my Acura." They are well-reviewed and safe cars.

I loved mine. But I had to give her up.

Jack Manfred 12-09-2009 12:48 AM

Re: Traumatized
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 409897)
So, tonight was a very bad night.

Good Lord. I'm glad you're safe.

Did you make a report? Get a Hack ID? Cab number? That cabbie needs to be in on a psych hold.

Atticus Grinch 12-09-2009 01:15 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 409882)
okay. you've got 2 hours in DC and need to get to some truly unique gift shoping: where to go? (for woman and children that have everything so unique is the key word, or offbeat)

Perfect for the college-age girl is my collection of reggae slow jams, Songs Inspired by the Fragrance by The Bedshitters. Any reasonably good indie record shop will have in on vinyl. The go-to place in D.C. is I&I Records, appropriately on J Street. Tell them Atticus is irie.

Jack Manfred 12-09-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Search on Irish Whiskey
 
I love the finish of the Redbreast whiskey. Time well spent.

Atticus Grinch 12-09-2009 01:28 AM

Re: One more post about ABBA...
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Manfred (Post 409898)
[RANT] Speaking of well-intentioned legislators, the California legislators who decided to give victims of domestic violence the "right" to refuse to testify are as bull-headed as you suspect. When abusers know that they can get their victims to "empower" themselves by opting out of the criminal justice system, justice is not served. [/RANT]

I agree with this. The state senator who carried that bill is a pandering jackass.

evenodds 12-09-2009 01:29 AM

Re: Traumatized
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Manfred (Post 409900)
Good Lord. I'm glad you're safe.

Did you make a report? Get a Hack ID? Cab number? That cabbie needs to be in on a psych hold.

The cab number was blank on the back window and I was too afraid of being shot or hit by the cab to look too closely upon exiting.

He was so angry at the world and I just wanted to escape as quickly as possible.

I called the cab company but I could not get a live person before the workout. It took me a good 20 minutes to be able to tell my buddies the story -- I was obviously distraught -- and I shared it with my SO who immediately wanted me to come over (in a cab, the moron) and offered, unsurprisingly, sex as a palliative. (I passed.)

After the workout, which was awful because I was a wreck, I was too fucking traumatized, so I met my two best friends and embarked on an evening to make me forget how close death felt.

I am afraid to call in now since (I am a bit tipsy and) the only way for them to find the right driver is by looking up my address, which is something I do not want my driver to remember. I know this makes me a terrible person, but right now, I am still afraid for my safety as he knows my address and access code.

Jack Manfred 12-09-2009 02:09 AM

Re: Traumatized
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 409904)
I am afraid to call in now since (I am a bit tipsy and) the only way for them to find the right driver is by looking up my address, which is something I do not want my driver to remember. I know this makes me a terrible person, but right now, I am still afraid for my safety as he knows my address and access code.

You're not a bad person to be concerned for your own safety. I'd get a new access code tomorrow, if I were you. I'd also find a new cab company.

ltl/fb 12-09-2009 02:29 AM

Re: Search on Irish Whiskey
 
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Originally Posted by Jack Manfred (Post 409902)
I love the finish of the Redbreast whiskey. Time well spent.

Where do you get that?


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