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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 08-02-2010 04:43 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 430437)
breastroke

What about this?

Flinty_McFlint 08-02-2010 04:43 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
[QUOTE=ABBAKiss;430441]
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 430433)

It's a sucky situation all around but you have to put your daughter first and not do anything that would give them grounds for a judge to sanction you or give some of your time to him or his parents.

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What does this even mean. He and his parents get to abuse the shit out of me and I have to just take it, but if I demand respect I will be sanctioned and my time with my child will be given to his parents? Are you fucking kidding me?

Your anger is misplaced. Go somewhere else for a while, take a walk, and then come back.

Hank Chinaski 08-02-2010 04:45 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430441)

Your anger is misplaced. Go somewhere else for a while, take a walk, and then come back.

There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything.

Atticus Grinch 08-02-2010 04:46 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 430437)
I can't agree with this. My nieces (age 13 and 11) and my nephew are pretty savvy as to the douchiness of their dads. I won't get into the douchiness here, but lets just say it can be pretty bad. In spite of that, they get along well with their dads and as well they are, generally speaking, happy, extremely high-performing (at academics and athletics*), well-adjusted kids. I think kids can figure out a lot more than we give them credit for.

(1) Your nieces sound exceptional.

(2) Eleven and thirteen is WAY too early to do any victory dances about the health of their relationships with their father. Loads of non-douchey moms and dads are being put through hell right now, as we speak, by teenagers who only days before were adorable.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-02-2010 04:46 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 430444)
What about this?

ooh, I didn't even realize that one. neat.

Cletus Miller 08-02-2010 04:47 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430441)
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 430433)

It's a sucky situation all around but you have to put your daughter first and not do anything that would give them grounds for a judge to sanction you or give some of your time to him or his parents.

What does this even mean. He and his parents get to abuse the shit out of me and I have to just take it, but if I demand respect I will be sanctioned and my time with my child will be given to his parents? Are you fucking kidding me?

Unfortunately, and grandly unfairly, yeah that might be the way it happens. Because what you might do might be considered "interfering with custodial rights" or something and it's (usually) considered worse than even a documented pattern of harassment.

Does everything get heard by the same judge, or does it bounced around?

J. Fred Muggs 08-02-2010 04:48 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430428)
is there the equivalent of divorced couples counciling? it sounds like the best thing might be to make him realizing trying to hurt you mostly hurts her. someone explaining that might help.

I'm going to try to be corgil about this. You should reconsider how you are going to spell counciling in the future.

Fugee 08-02-2010 04:48 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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It's a sucky situation all around but you have to put your daughter first and not do anything that would give them grounds for a judge to sanction you or give some of your time to him or his parents.
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What does this even mean. He and his parents get to abuse the shit out of me and I have to just take it, but if I demand respect I will be sanctioned and my time with my child will be given to his parents? Are you fucking kidding me?
Of course not. But I am saying:

1. Don't do anything stupid that will give them grounds for the judge to change orders in their favor. Not saying don't demand respect -- just be smart. And consider that the more they know they are pissing the hell out of you, the more satisfaction they get. Document their abuse. Don't retaliate. By your actions keep showing the judge that you are the responsible adult who is putting your daughter's interests first.

2. It looks like they are going to be jerks for awhile. You can't control that. All you can control is how you react to it. See a counselor to deal with your anger. This anger is not healthy for you or your daughter.

Flinty_McFlint 08-02-2010 04:48 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
[QUOTE=Hank Chinaski;430447]
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Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint (Post 430445)

There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything.

I swear to god, either your wife stole your login, or the denizens of Detroit ought to be worried about pods underneath their beds.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 04:50 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430441)
What does this even mean. He and his parents get to abuse the shit out of me and I have to just take it, but if I demand respect I will be sanctioned and my time with my child will be given to his parents? Are you fucking kidding me?

How are those demands going for you so far? You're just making it worse.

And Fugee meant: Don't do something drastic like refuse to allow these assholes to see the kid. That will blow up in your face.

Okay, I'm done.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 08-02-2010 04:53 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430422)
Stop it. Jesus. Fuck them.

For a few second, I thought you were responding to Adder about the Belfast chicks. But seeing that you were not . . . .

Hey Adder -- about those Belfast chicks? Stop it. Jesus. Fuck them.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 04:54 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430451)
Unfortunately, and grandly unfairly, yeah that might be the way it happens. Because what you might do might be considered "interfering with custodial rights" or something and it's (usually) considered worse than even a documented pattern of harassment.

Does everything get heard by the same judge, or does it bounced around?

I currently have 100% physical and 100% legal custody. We are in the middle of a very expensive custody evaluation because he refuesed to do what most normal people do and mediate or do early neutral evaluation. The judge is retiring so if we do not settle, and if his wealthy parents make good on their threat to use their unlimited funds to destroy me, I will go bankrupt fighting off their pointless shit before some other judge -- it is McDouche and his parents against me.

I initially just wanted advice on how to deal with a shitty situation and I feel like I am being blamed for trusting someone who said he loved me (which, yes, I should not have trusted him and believe me, I am to the point of calling off the wedding because I am afraid to trust anyone) and then told that I am going to have to look forward to a lifetime of abuse from McDouche and his parents with no recourse. I am considering just checking out entirely. Let them explain to my daughter why Mama is dead.

bold_n_brazen 08-02-2010 04:59 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430441)
What does this even mean. He and his parents get to abuse the shit out of me and I have to just take it, but if I demand respect I will be sanctioned and my time with my child will be given to his parents? Are you fucking kidding me?

Sadly, respect is not something you can demand.

And honestly, what you want is not respect. It's control.

And you're not always entitled to that.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 05:01 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430461)
Sadly, respect is not something you can demand.

And honestly, what you want is not respect. It's control.

And you're not always entitled to that.

No. I asked him to stop constantly changing the parenting schedule and calling me a whore for moving on with my fiance on a daily basis in front of my child. This is not about control. I gave up way too much control from the outset. This is about him not controlling me and my life. If we have a schedule, I asked him to stick to it and stop verbally harassing me and threatening violence. If you are telling me that I have to put up with him harassing me and my family on a daily basis for the rest of my life I want nothing to do with my life.

Adder 08-02-2010 05:03 PM

Re: Holy crap
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430423)
And you need to either have sex or stop posting these updates, because, frankly, it's getting kind of sad.

TM

Kind of???


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