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barely_legal 07-10-2003 11:06 AM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
So who on the board indulges in facials? I have never had a professional facial, but I am considering one because this summer my skin is not displaying its usual flawlessness (I don't know why that is, because I am getting younger every day).

Anyway, I was always reluctant to go because I scar easily and I read this interview with Heather Locklear years ago where she said she doesn't do facials because she doesn't want scars (I'm guessing overzealous use of the comedone extractor or blackhead tool would be the culprit).

And I also read somewhere that your skin doesn't look good immediately, but looks really good in a week or so. I've got a special occasion in a few weeks and would like to glow.

Is any of this true? Please, debunk, recommend, spill.
I get facials fairly regularly. I love them, but I often ask that they skip the extraction because I have similar concerns about possible scarring. Plus, it hurts like a bitch. If you go to a good place, they shouldn't blink an eye when you ask them to skip the extraction.

I'm not sure whether my skin is actually in better shape after the facials, but it feels smoother and cleaner and I do get that glow-y look, but it really only lasts for a couple of days.

The scalp/face/neck massage is heavenly. If I could train my SO to rub my scalp the way that Olga does, I could save a lot of spa $$$

Sparklehorse 07-10-2003 11:06 AM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
So who on the board indulges in facials? I have never had a professional facial, but I am considering one because this summer my skin is not displaying its usual flawlessness (I don't know why that is, because I am getting younger every day).

Anyway, I was always reluctant to go because I scar easily and I read this interview with Heather Locklear years ago where she said she doesn't do facials because she doesn't want scars (I'm guessing overzealous use of the comedone extractor or blackhead tool would be the culprit).

And I also read somewhere that your skin doesn't look good immediately, but looks really good in a week or so. I've got a special occasion in a few weeks and would like to glow.

Is any of this true? Please, debunk, recommend, spill.
Hopefully someone better versed in the varieties of facials will weigh in but I have to say that, in my experience, they've never made much difference either way. When I had one at a European style place a few years back and mentioned wanting something done about clogged pores on my nose, I got a blank look. Then they came out with Biore strips which work like a charm. Last winter when my skin got insanely dry, a friend gave me a referral to someone at Saks and some samples. My skin looks much better with the new (more expensive, of course!) moisturizer.

Long-winded way to say you might need to change up something in your products.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-10-2003 11:14 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
From today's paper:

"The New Card Shark"
Do we need spoiler space for the World Series of Poker? I was watching the first round on ESPN2 last night. Is it a rerun or is it the first broadcast?


edited to remove possible spoiler information. e/o

greatwhitenorthchick 07-10-2003 11:18 AM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
So who on the board indulges in facials? I have never had a professional facial, but I am considering one because this summer my skin is not displaying its usual flawlessness (I don't know why that is, because I am getting younger every day).

Is any of this true? Please, debunk, recommend, spill.
If you want a gentle facial, go to an ayurvedic practitioner (if there is one near where you live). You will feel very relaxed and your skin will glow - no chance of scarring.

I would also recommend a Dr. Hauschka facial - they are usually 90 min to 2 hours long and your skin will look fantastic - when I get one, strangers come up to me and comment on my skin.

I am also a veteran of photo facials (like laser resurfacing), microdermabrasion, dermaplaning, glycolic facials and run of the mill european facials if you want to PM me. I've never been scarred although some have been better than others.

evenodds 07-10-2003 11:20 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Do we need spoiler space for the World Series of Poker? I was watching the first round on ESPN2 last night. Is it a rerun or is it the first broadcast?
It happened in May.

Has it not been broadcast?

I saw references to it a couple of months ago, so maybe this is a different tournament.

Edited to add, I revised my initial post and provided a warning, just in case.

SlaveNoMore 07-10-2003 11:27 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Did you just call me Coltrane?
Do we need spoiler space for the World Series of Poker? I was watching the first round on ESPN2 last night. Is it a rerun or is it the first broadcast?
It's a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rerun. Hell, I watched part of it in an EWR bar waiting for my plane.

My question is why the fuck is Mr. Kotter [as is, welcome back] doing the color commentary?

not7y(I got a Note, er, Pair)S

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-10-2003 11:32 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rerun. Hell, I watched part of it in an EWR bar waiting for my plane.

My question is why the fuck is Mr. Kotter [as is, welcome back] doing the color commentary?

not7y(I got a Note, er, Pair)S
Fair enough. Hasn't Gabe been doing these all along?


And it's Mr. KottAIRRR...

ThurgreedMarshall 07-10-2003 11:35 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
When asked about becoming an attorney I make sure to tell prospective students not to do it for any of the following reasons:
[List of good reasons with which I agree.]
My stock answer when someone asks me about my job as a transactional attorney (because no one seems to understand that you can be a lawyer and never go to court) is as follows:

Remember when you went away that one summer to the beach/country/lake house and you were there for like a month? There was so much to do that first week, but after you did it all, you and your brothers/sisters/cousins/friends started to get bored, especially when it rained. You ended up taking out the board games. Parcheesi, Sorry, Life, Payday and of course, Monopoly. Monopoly wasn't a bad game, lots to do -- buy this, sell that, avoid jail, etc. But, everyone argued over whether you could have 5 houses or if you had to buy a hotel after a certain number of houses and how much you had to sell back certain properties for and what happened if you actually rolled doubles when you were in jail, but the dice weren't exactly level, etc. You remember that one annoying kid who controlled the Monopoly box top and couldn't wait to refer to the rules to let everyone know what they could or couldn't do? That's me. I'm the annoying kid with the real life equivalent of the Monopoly box top.

Thurgreed(i wish i was the real life equivalent of the race car)Marshall

notcasesensitive 07-10-2003 11:44 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
My stock answer when someone asks me about my job as a transactional attorney (because no one seems to understand that you can be a lawyer and never go to court) is as follows:

Remember when you went away that one summer to the beach/country/lake house and you were there for like a month? There was so much to do that first week, but after you did it all, you and your brothers/sisters/cousins/friends started to get bored, especially when it rained. You ended up taking out the board games. Parcheesi, Sorry, Life, Payday and of course, Monopoly. Monopoly wasn't a bad game, lots to do -- buy this, sell that, avoid jail, etc. But, everyone argued over whether you could have 5 houses or if you had to buy a hotel after a certain number of houses and how much you had to sell back certain properties for and what happened if you actually rolled doubles when you were in jail, but the dice weren't exactly level, etc. You remember that one annoying kid who controlled the Monopoly box top and couldn't wait to refer to the rules to let everyone know what they could or couldn't do? That's me. I'm the annoying kid with the real life equivalent of the Monopoly box top.

Thurgreed(i wish i was the real life equivalent of the race car)Marshall
TM, that is priceless. I just sent it to my SO, who is also transactional and is STILL that kid who controls and cites the rules to any game. He also reads manuals for fun.

n(I don't think he is annoying tho)cs

robustpuppy 07-10-2003 11:44 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You remember that one annoying kid who controlled the Monopoly box top and couldn't wait to refer to the rules to let everyone know what they could or couldn't do? That's me. I'm the annoying kid with the real life equivalent of the Monopoly box top.
I recognize you: you're the kid who took all the joy out of Monopoly by refusing to do the free parking money pile in the middle of the board because it wasn't "actually in the rules."

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-10-2003 11:47 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
My stock answer when someone asks me about my job as a transactional attorney (because no one seems to understand that you can be a lawyer and never go to court) is as follows:

stock answer
I don't think I want to see your tangential answer...

Sparklehorse 07-10-2003 11:48 AM

NY Times editors read FB
 
Article about online poker from NYTimes online front page

Who is the NY Times editor here? Confess!

greatwhitenorthchick 07-10-2003 11:49 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I recognize you: you're the kid who took all the joy out of Monopoly by refusing to do the free parking money pile in the middle of the board because it wasn't "actually in the rules."
Why did Monopoly take place in Atlantic City? (I'm sure I could google for this but I'm lazy).

And St. Charles Place rocks. Owning it (and eventually the other purple properties) is the first step to successful Monopoly empire building.

notcasesensitive 07-10-2003 11:49 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rerun. Hell, I watched part of it in an EWR bar waiting for my plane.

My question is why the fuck is Mr. Kotter [as is, welcome back] doing the color commentary?

not7y(I got a Note, er, Pair)S
Poor Gabe hasn't held up well humor wise. I much prefer the commentary from that Van Patten person (or whatever his name is) on WPT. The final referenced in the article isn't the same one I watched last weekend, and I'm not sure how chronologically it fits in, but I saw the World Series final that involved the threat of a shaved head of some famous Poker Dude. When was that really played? Anyone? Poker nerds?

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 07-10-2003 11:49 AM

Speaking of Poker
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It's a re-re-re-re-re-re-re-rerun. Hell, I watched part of it in an EWR bar waiting for my plane.

My question is why the fuck is Mr. Kotter [as is, welcome back] doing the color commentary?

not7y(I got a Note, er, Pair)S
Maybe he has a connection to poker and is a player, kind of like Omar Sharif with Bridge (apparently one of the top players in the world) or the Laurence brother (Mitchell?) with pool (married former female world champion).

Either that or Jack Binion's too cheap to get some real talent... For those who've never been to the Horseshoe in Vegas, it's pretty old school, in a dumpy 70's era, wood paneling, seriously in need of remodeling kind of way...

ThrashersFan 07-10-2003 11:49 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
That's me. I'm the annoying kid with the real life equivalent of the Monopoly box top.
Amen, brother. I am also that kid -- but with huge tits. You have to do it because you love it -- THEN the power, prestige and money will follow. If you do it backwards and try for the power, prestige and money hoping you will fall in love with practicing law I think you are doomed to fail. The problem is how do you know that you love it before you do it. Personally, I was not one of those people who dreamed of being a lawyer, it kinda happened after college but I just knew before I decided that this was gonna work out. I guess it is kinda like "knowing" you are pregnant before you dip the stick in your piss to check --

paigowprincess 07-10-2003 11:51 AM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If you want a gentle facial, go to an ayurvedic practitioner (if there is one near where you live). You will feel very relaxed and your skin will glow - no chance of scarring.

I would also recommend a Dr. Hauschka facial - they are usually 90 min to 2 hours long and your skin will look fantastic - when I get one, strangers come up to me and comment on my skin.

I am also a veteran of photo facials (like laser resurfacing), microdermabrasion, dermaplaning, glycolic facials and run of the mill european facials if you want to PM me. I've never been scarred although some have been better than others.
Dish on photofacials please. what do they do, how long does it last, cost?

As to facials, I would add that it is subjective. extractions do not hurt at all, but glycolic peels really burn my skin when on, without a burning after effect. I know a very special facialist if you want a great referral. PM me

notcasesensitive 07-10-2003 11:54 AM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Why did Monopoly take place in Atlantic City? (I'm sure I could google for this but I'm lazy).

And St. Charles Place rocks. Owning it (and eventually the other purple properties) is the first step to successful Monopoly empire building.
Hmm. My strategy typically involved the Orange (and sadly I remember that they are St. James Place, Tennessee Ave. and New York Ave.) properties (conveniently located in the path right after someone gets out of jail). Of course now I can never play online monopoly with any of you because you know my secret.

I would not play a game with anyone who denied the Free Parking money pile. That is actually the most fun part of the game.

ThrashersFan 07-10-2003 11:55 AM

Another Dilemma
 
As I watch gaggle after gaggle of men head out to lunch through the parking lot I have a dilemma -- how do I resist the urge, without hurting myself internally or something (you know, like blue-balls), to go out and de-pants each and every one of them and burn their fucking Dockers?? And they all have cell-phones hanging from the waist-band. Oh the humanity.

greatwhitenorthchick 07-10-2003 12:02 PM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Dish on photofacials please. what do they do, how long does it last, cost?

They are expensive - like $1500 for five (so $300 each). They also hurt like a bitch but the results are great. It's actually an intense pulse of light that allegedly penetrates your skin's dermis and stimulates the rebuilding of collagen. Whether that actually happens, I don't know - but they do something because your skin looks a whole lot better. The results have lasted for at least a year (I got five).

What happens is that you lie down and the esthetician puts a super cold gel on your face and you get these pads over your eyes and then she zaps your face about a zillion times with a little beam of light. It isn't fun. But it works - you lose sunspots, wrinkles, scars - all that - broken capillaries fade as well.

NotFromHere 07-10-2003 12:04 PM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy

And I also read somewhere that your skin doesn't look good immediately, but looks really good in a week or so. I've got a special occasion in a few weeks and would like to glow.

Is any of this true? Please, debunk, recommend, spill.
First of all, I wouldn't just go out and get a facial. There are many many bad practitioners out there. And paying a lot of money and going to an expensive salon is NO guarantee you will get a good one.

That said - I agree with whoever said that extraction hurts - it stings like a mother and not everyone can properly clean out a clogged pore. One woman kept leaning on my eye during this process and I have never returned. Another one basically talked me out of doing the glycolic peel but would not stop pushing the "products" that she sells. Knowing that these people get paid spiffs on selling product, you will have to say no more than once. A good facialist will recommend a good mask for your particular skin condition. I have had Vitamin C and marine masks because I have delicate, dry skin but the hot weather clogs my pores. With dry skin, avoid anything that is clay based.
I also agree with whomever said that the effects last a few days. If you've had some really severe extractions, your face will not recover for about 3 days (but after that, no scarring and the redness will go away). If you're just doing the facial, no extraction, your skin will look radiant for a few days.

Much of this depends on your skin type and who you go to and what you have done. I left one place looking worse than I went in (she kept pulling on the skin around my eyes - taboo).

Ask for recommendations and go to a couple of different places. And remember, you don't always get what you pay for.

paigowprincess 07-10-2003 12:06 PM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
They are expensive - like $1500 for five (so $300 each). They also hurt like a bitch but the results are great. It's actually an intense pulse of light that allegedly penetrates your skin's dermis and stimulates the rebuilding of collagen. Whether that actually happens, I don't know - but they do something because your skin looks a whole lot better. The results have lasted for at least a year (I got five).

What happens is that you lie down and the esthetician puts a super cold gel on your face and you get these pads over your eyes and then she zaps your face about a zillion times with a little beam of light. It isn't fun. But it works - you lose sunspots, wrinkles, scars - all that - broken capillaries fade as well.
Oooh thanks. I was just getting a facial last week and saw a gib ole sign for it. I thought it was a new procedure?

You are like the queen of dermatological procedures. Are you still doing botox or did the Spock experience make you swear it off? Did you used to have acne or something? You dont look like you need all this stuff, but that might just be a cause-effect thing.

NotFromHere 07-10-2003 12:08 PM

ghetto airlines
 
This one has sound and animation. But you MUST HAVE SOUND or this is not funny.

we get you there

ltl/fb 07-10-2003 12:09 PM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
[Monopoly thing]
Nice. I would use that (esp. with the corporate people who find us tedious), if only it wouldn't give me away.

Pretty Little Flower 07-10-2003 12:11 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
As I watch gaggle after gaggle of men head out to lunch through the parking lot I have a dilemma -- how do I resist the urge, without hurting myself internally or something (you know, like blue-balls), to go out and de-pants each and every one of them and burn their fucking Dockers?? And they all have cell-phones hanging from the waist-band. Oh the humanity.
There is nothing wrong with Dockers. With the advent of 5-day business casual, a guy basically needs to own at least three pairs of Dockers and a couple of pairs of khaki Banana Republic pants (or Gap, I suppose, if that is your thing - I think the BR khakis are a little classier). That is just what you wear. As for shirts, I simply wear white dress shirts, except on Friday, when I either wear a blue dress shirt or a golf shirt - usually a golf shirt now that I think about it. And (because this was a topic yesterday when I was wearing one), there is nothing wrong with short sleeve button down shirts in the summer, but you should only wear white unless it is Friday. I realize this may not be fashion forward or whatever, but men basically have no choice. That is what we have to wear to get away with business casual attire. Not that I am complaining. It makes shopping super easy, and I never really worry about what I am going to wear. I agree that wearing the cell phone hanging from the waist is not the most attractive, but the alternative - having this huge lump in your pocket - is worse, so I wear it in the little waist-band holster. I used to think it was dorky, but now pretty much everyone dies it - it is normal.

Again, this is work attire, not club wear. It is a different standard and guys just do not really have a choice as to what to wear. Just like on court days, we wear suits - duh!

greatwhitenorthchick 07-10-2003 12:11 PM

Facials
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
You are like the queen of dermatological procedures. Are you still doing botox or did the Spock experience make you swear it off? Did you used to have acne or something? You dont look like you need all this stuff, but that might just be a cause-effect thing.
I still get it, just not as much - and I go to a different guy. No acne - I'm just vain.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-10-2003 12:13 PM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
My stock answer when someone asks me about my job as a transactional attorney (because no one seems to understand that you can be a lawyer and never go to court) is as follows:

Remember when you went away that one summer to the beach/country/lake house and you were there for like a month? There was so much to do that first week, but after you did it all, you and your brothers/sisters/cousins/friends started to get bored, especially when it rained. You ended up taking out the board games. Parcheesi, Sorry, Life, Payday and of course, Monopoly. Monopoly wasn't a bad game, lots to do -- buy this, sell that, avoid jail, etc. But, everyone argued over whether you could have 5 houses or if you had to buy a hotel after a certain number of houses and how much you had to sell back certain properties for and what happened if you actually rolled doubles when you were in jail, but the dice weren't exactly level, etc. You remember that one annoying kid who controlled the Monopoly box top and couldn't wait to refer to the rules to let everyone know what they could or couldn't do? That's me. I'm the annoying kid with the real life equivalent of the Monopoly box top.

Thurgreed(i wish i was the real life equivalent of the race car)Marshall
TM:

Excellent analogy. Captures it all so perfectly.

S(the ADD kid who complained when told to read the rules and ran off to play whiffle ball)D

SlaveNoMore 07-10-2003 12:14 PM

KWYJIBO
 
Quote:

robustpuppy
I recognize you: you're the kid who took all the joy out of Monopoly by refusing to do the free parking money pile in the middle of the board because it wasn't "actually in the rules."
On the other hand, you probably argue that "Klaatu" or "Gort" should get you Triple Word Score points in Scrabble because they were names from a sci-fi movie.

not7y("With no rules, we have anarchy...and that's only fun if your drunk")S

NotFromHere 07-10-2003 12:17 PM

Marriage scam
 
marriage scam

NEW YORK, July 10 — Here comes the bride. Here she comes again. And again. Six New York City women who swore they had not been married before were issued 43 marriage licenses to wed illegal immigrants so the men could stay in the United States, Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau said. Each woman got up to $1,000 for each marriage.
ONE OF THE WOMEN received 27 marriage licenses in Manhattan between 1984 and 2002 so she could marry men from Ecuador, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Pakistan, Colombia, Mexico and a few other countries, Morgenthau said Wednesday.
The woman also applied for marriage licenses in Florida, Morgenthau said, and he believes she may have gotten licenses elsewhere in the New York metropolitan area.
“I figured she should go in the Guinness Book of Records,” he said.

So in instances like this, do the husbands get "exported?" Would you be able to find them?

paigowprincess 07-10-2003 12:17 PM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
TM:

Excellent analogy. Captures it all so perfectly.

S(the ADD kid who complained when told to read the rules and ran off to play whiffle ball)D
I was the banker who was all excited about handling the money at first but then realized what an endless tedious task it was after all but could not get out of it. I of course never took any extra money from the drawer.

My sister was the one who said, "this is taking too loooooooooooooooooooong, I dont wanna play anymore" (she was SUCH a quitter) , just as I nailed Boardwalk and Park Place. What a brilliant game.

SlaveNoMore 07-10-2003 12:17 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Pretty Little Flower
"That is just what you wear. As for shirts, I simply wear white dress shirts, except on Friday, when I either wear a blue dress shirt or a golf shirt - usually a golf shirt now that I think about it. And (because this was a topic yesterday when I was wearing one), there is nothing wrong with short sleeve button down shirts in the summer, but you should only wear white unless it is Friday. I realize this may not be fashion forward or whatever, but men basically have no choice. That is what we have to wear to get away with business casual attire.
Life seems so quaint in Minnesota.

not7yS

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-10-2003 12:18 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
As I watch gaggle after gaggle of men head out to lunch through the parking lot I have a dilemma -- how do I resist the urge, without hurting myself internally or something (you know, like blue-balls), to go out and de-pants each and every one of them and burn their fucking Dockers?? And they all have cell-phones hanging from the waist-band. Oh the humanity.
You're just going to have to move to a more cosmopolitan city, where they clip their cell phones to their $400 trousers...

bilmore 07-10-2003 12:18 PM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
When asked about becoming an attorney I make sure to tell prospective students not to do it for any of the following reasons:
For balance, you should know that there actually are lots of people out there who like the work, enjoy the money, and don't regret the choice. There are a lot of shit non-law jobs, too. Ask a securities sales-honcho how enamored they are of their life sometime.

(I just mean, don't give this potential newbie a completely negative view. It doesn't have to be THAT bad.)

sebastian_dangerfield 07-10-2003 12:19 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
There is nothing wrong with Dockers. With the advent of 5-day business casual, a guy basically needs to own at least three pairs of Dockers and a couple of pairs of khaki Banana Republic pants (or Gap, I suppose, if that is your thing - I think the BR khakis are a little classier). That is just what you wear. As for shirts, I simply wear white dress shirts, except on Friday, when I either wear a blue dress shirt or a golf shirt - usually a golf shirt now that I think about it. And (because this was a topic yesterday when I was wearing one), there is nothing wrong with short sleeve button down shirts in the summer, but you should only wear white unless it is Friday. I realize this may not be fashion forward or whatever, but men basically have no choice. That is what we have to wear to get away with business casual attire. Not that I am complaining. It makes shopping super easy, and I never really worry about what I am going to wear. I agree that wearing the cell phone hanging from the waist is not the most attractive, but the alternative - having this huge lump in your pocket - is worse, so I wear it in the little waist-band holster. I used to think it was dorky, but now pretty much everyone dies it - it is normal.

Again, this is work attire, not club wear. It is a different standard and guys just do not really have a choice as to what to wear. Just like on court days, we wear suits - duh!
Why is it that suddenly all pants are "relaxed fit"? I went to J Crew and searched the whole stroe a few days ago and could not find slim or regular fitting pants (I''m rather thin of leg and ass). So I went to Banana Republic. Same problem - no regular or slim fitting pants. So I go up to the counter and say jokingly "Are all your customers fat? Why no regular guy pants?" The salesman (a skinny guy) said to me "You know, I've been wanting to know the same thing. Its a real pain in the ass to find pants that aren't baggy").

I wound up buying these weird low cut pants because they're the only slim fitting pants I could find at BR. They're nice, but they only had them in one color, so I can't even get multiple pairs.

S(what's with this baggy pant shit?)D

ThrashersFan 07-10-2003 12:23 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
There is nothing wrong with Dockers.


Again, this is work attire, not club wear. It is a different standard and guys just do not really have a choice as to what to wear. Just like on court days, we wear suits - duh!

There is when they are wrinkly and worn everyday with a golf shirt. These are not lawyers I am seeing so I don't know if they are 5-day biz casual or not but they could at least wear a nice shirt and crease the pants a bit. And what is with not wearing socks?

With regard to a phone, well, I don't own one (I must be the only person on the planet so that is probably totally outable) but I used to and I got rid of it for just that reason -- people thought I was available all of the time, even at lunch. I guess if I had one now I would not take it to lunch because, well, it is my lunchtime not my worktime. That solves the bulge in the pocket versus hanging off the waistband thing. I don't think having the phone in a case is as bad as just clipping it to your pants.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-10-2003 12:26 PM

Another Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan

With regard to a cell phone, well, I don't own one (I must be the only person on the planet so that is probably totally outable) but I used to and I got rid of it for just that reason --
Land lines are so 1999...

ThrashersFan 07-10-2003 12:27 PM

Dilemma
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
For balance, you should know that there actually are lots of people out there who like the work, enjoy the money, and don't regret the choice. There are a lot of shit non-law jobs, too. Ask a securities sales-honcho how enamored they are of their life sometime.

(I just mean, don't give this potential newbie a completely negative view. It doesn't have to be THAT bad.)
For balance, I love what I do. As I said earlier, I believe that if you love it the money, etc. will follow but it doesn't normally work the other way around. I find that most people thinking of becoming lawyers are doing it for reasons that might play on TV but don't in real life. This is why year after year the law schools graduate people with expectations of grandeur who soon become bitter and disappointed.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-10-2003 12:28 PM

Another Dilemma
 
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
There is nothing wrong with Dockers. With the advent of 5-day business casual, a guy basically needs to own at least three pairs of Dockers and a couple of pairs of khaki Banana Republic pants (or Gap, I suppose, if that is your thing - I think the BR khakis are a little classier). That is just what you wear. As for shirts, I simply wear white dress shirts, except on Friday, when I either wear a blue dress shirt or a golf shirt - usually a golf shirt now that I think about it. And (because this was a topic yesterday when I was wearing one), there is nothing wrong with short sleeve button down shirts in the summer, but you should only wear white unless it is Friday. I realize this may not be fashion forward or whatever, but men basically have no choice. That is what we have to wear to get away with business casual attire. Not that I am complaining. It makes shopping super easy, and I never really worry about what I am going to wear. I agree that wearing the cell phone hanging from the waist is not the most attractive, but the alternative - having this huge lump in your pocket - is worse, so I wear it in the little waist-band holster. I used to think it was dorky, but now pretty much everyone dies it - it is normal.

Again, this is work attire, not club wear. It is a different standard and guys just do not really have a choice as to what to wear. Just like on court days, we wear suits - duh!
Wearing a pocket clip for your cell phone is a great way to repel all those women who'd otherwise throw themselves at your feet.

A white shirt is conservative and tasteful. A white shirt every day is a sign of OCD.

You're not the Professor are you? If you are, let introduce myself... I'm Thurston Howell's illegitimate son, and I know you know where he stashed his dough, so start talkin or I'll start suin.

PS: As to the suit, nothing says guidance counselor like a white point collar shirt. I suggest trying Thomas Pink or Charles Tyrwhitt online.

paigowprincess 07-10-2003 12:30 PM

SD
 
Your bird legs and flat ass aside, I sometimes wonder if you are bangable. I really have not a clue.

SlaveNoMore 07-10-2003 12:39 PM

Another Dilemma
 
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sebastian_dangerfield
Why is it that suddenly all pants are "relaxed fit"? I went to J Crew and searched the whole stroe a few days ago and could not find slim or regular fitting pants (I''m rather thin of leg and ass).
S(what's with this baggy pant shit?)D
Stop doing preacher curls, show-off, and hit the squats already.

not7yS


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