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Dude, she disn't trap you. She merely cited an obvious disastrous result of what your propose.

But its all silliness anyway. RT nailed it a few posts back... Roe ain't going anywhere anytime soon, so this has been a whole lotta handwringing over nothing.

No sensible politician wants to flip Roe. The party in charge when that happens is going to get blamed for the biggest waterfall of legislative problems and state level gridlock in the nations' recent history.

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Tally ho!

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I'm obsessive-compulsive. I need consistency and internal order. So yes, I do feel better. Thanks.

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When I am not being virulently partisan (ie irl) I actually root for gridlock. the less government gets done the less problematic effect.

The reason I voted for Perot in 92 is that he would have ensured a perfect storm of gridlock.

IRL, I could care less about liberals or conversatives, I am anti-big government and elected officials.

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I am offended by someone so offensive finding anything offensive.

Maybe this whole subject was the wrong road to go down. I wish we had just stuck to talking about Hillary's prospects for 2008.

BTW, she says hi!

eta: I know this is offensive, but it is okay because I was just doing it to piss Carville-lite off

http://www.stonegiant.com/Politics/Hillary_Lesbian.gif

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How is that offensive?

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So you think abortion should always be completely legal, on demand, etc., and have just donated a whopping sum of money to NARAL? Cool.

If not, please explain how you have revised your opinion as to the penalties and who is subject to them. Thanks.

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Is this a picture of you in your new foppish style? Nice ascot.

ETA: But do something about those hips. You run triatholons? My ass. You look like you've an advanced case of the Kleinfelters.

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Two words, black pant suit.

Seriously, I don't think I have ever seen a woman who had absolutely no variety in her clothing. Until Hillary. At first, back on infirmation.com, even I thought that the many posts perseverating on her ubiquitous black pantsuit were a little beyond the pale but at this point I really wonder whether the Junior Senator from NY simply has no fashion whatsoever; doesn't own a mirror; is colorblind; and/or is trying to send some type of encrypted message to her more militant followers (or RedChinese handlers).

However, to preempt the conjecture, if she wears that thing because she thinks that black can help slim her overwhelming hips and behind, she is seriously deluding herself. Hell, if it only worked!

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I think abortion should be limited to first trimester and situations post-first trimester that materially jeopardize the mortality of the mother.

I think that people who get paid to write statutes and who are more expert on sentencing equities should come up with the specifics. Certainly there must be appropriate criminals statutes on the books in Texas related to non-doctors who assist in the termination of a pregnancy. Even a requested termination.

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Just for you, I'd make this my avatar, but it already was an avatar of one of my socks and I hate being derivative like that.

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The risks of amnio, however, are somewhat misleading, as they take into account all amnios, throughout the nation. If you factor out the poor hospitals/clinics/PAs (generally in rural areas, or public hospitals in urban areas) that perform them the risks of miscarriage from amnio are very, very small. After maternal-age 35, even if you include the "backwoods" amnios in the sample group, the risk of miscarriage resulting from an amnio is lower (as a percentage chance) than the risk of having a child with a genetic abnormality. (Which is why amnios are recommended for women over 35.)

(hope this isn't a stp situation, but if it is - meh)

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"I GOTTA BE MEEEEEEEEEE"

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No, the "opt out" concept is premised on that fact that (i) you can unilaterally trump the "rights" of the mother over the fetus, but (ii) the father has no say in the matter.

Assuming that arbortion is a "defined" right, then why is this right gender specific? Why is the man not allowed the right to have equal rights to terminate? And if not, then why not allow him to "opt out" if the female declines?

1) The argument that "it's her body, she chooses" really doesnt work, because he then has a legal obligation to pay for 18 years thereafter.

2) I would also suggest that it if is indeed a defined right or entitlement, then declining the male any say in the matter - when his fiscal rights are seriously at issue - violates the Equal Protection clause

3) The repsonse "well, he chose to do it" can easy be countered with the argument "well, so did she". Yet you chose to give her an easy out, and he has no say for 18.75 years.

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He would have posted it under his Raggedy Ann Coulter sock, but he apparently lost the log-in.