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 But would you agree that even the original original, pulled directly from the file in the presence of Orly Taitz and 102 HD cameras, and then tested in every imaginable manner to prove it was typed and signed in August 1961 (and not earlier nor later) would *still* be disputed by the real wackos (including Orly herself)? | 
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 Put differently -- you said the opposite of what I said. Note: I assumed that by "first post" you meant your first post in the discussion of this that started today. If, instead, you intended to refer to the first post you wrote on some other day in some other discussion, or the first post you are planning to write on some future date, or the first post you imagined yourself writing, or the first post that you might have written if your statement had not been false, then I apologize. | 
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 10 "why doesn't he just turn it over" is a reasonable question to me- 20 still I know a reasonable answer is "fuck you you didn't ask Bush or Kerry." 30 OTOH, since the first question did seem reasonable, initially, I bet that many people might not agree with line 20. | 
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 Except, it means the opposite of what I said. On the assumption that you are just being dense, instead of dishonest, I'll explain more slowly. I said "What possible reason would there be for Obama to dignify the "birthers" by giving such approval?" This suggests that I don't believe that there is any reason. When you say "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," ", well, that shows that you understand one reason NOT to give such approval. But when you say "I always wondered about why he didn't release it," and "but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that.", well, that means that you think that there were some reasons for Obama to dignify the Birthers. Put another way: You have "always wondered" why Obama didn't dignify the Birthers. I have not, and I don't see any reason why he should. Tomorrow, I can explain to you why up is up and down is down, and not the other way around. But only if you demonstrate that you actually understand the above. | 
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 While the flowchart of my post would be: "There is no reason for Obama to just turn it over." I realize that, by stating this in the form of a rhetorical question, I may have confused you. My apologies. I will use smaller words and simpler techniques in the future, to make sure you understand. | 
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 The real certificate has a note on it saying "born in the part of Hawaii that is in Kenya". | 
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