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Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 422122)
let's be clear: he released the only form of brth certificate that the state of Hawaii releases.

again, not to support the birthers but that isn't true, even from cletus' link. they will release more to an "interested" party, and I thought with the persons approval.

Cletus Miller 04-22-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422124)
again, not to support the birthers but that isn't true, even from cletus' link. they will release more to an "interested" party, and I thought with the persons approval.

2.

But would you agree that even the original original, pulled directly from the file in the presence of Orly Taitz and 102 HD cameras, and then tested in every imaginable manner to prove it was typed and signed in August 1961 (and not earlier nor later) would *still* be disputed by the real wackos (including Orly herself)?

Sidd Finch 04-22-2010 03:49 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422124)
again, not to support the birthers but that isn't true, even from cletus' link. they will release more to an "interested" party, and I thought with the persons approval.

What possible reason would there be for Obama to dignify the "birthers" by giving such approval?

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 03:54 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 422126)
What possible reason would there be for Obama to dignify the "birthers" by giving such approval?

I said that in my first post.

Sidd Finch 04-22-2010 04:26 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422128)
I said that in my first post.

No, you didn't. You said this:

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I think the birther theory is insane, but I always wondered about why he didn't release it- I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that.

Put differently -- you said the opposite of what I said.

Note: I assumed that by "first post" you meant your first post in the discussion of this that started today. If, instead, you intended to refer to the first post you wrote on some other day in some other discussion, or the first post you are planning to write on some future date, or the first post you imagined yourself writing, or the first post that you might have written if your statement had not been false, then I apologize.

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 04:43 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 422131)
No, you didn't. You said this:




Put differently -- you said the opposite of what I said.

Note: I assumed that by "first post" you meant your first post in the discussion of this that started today. If, instead, you intended to refer to the first post you wrote on some other day in some other discussion, or the first post you are planning to write on some future date, or the first post you imagined yourself writing, or the first post that you might have written if your statement had not been false, then I apologize.

what does "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," " translate to in your part of the world?

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 04:46 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422133)
what does "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," " translate to in your part of the world?

so for a flow chart my post would look like this-

10 "why doesn't he just turn it over" is a reasonable question to me-
20 still I know a reasonable answer is "fuck you you didn't ask Bush or Kerry."
30 OTOH, since the first question did seem reasonable, initially, I bet that many people might not agree with line 20.

Sidd Finch 04-22-2010 05:03 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422133)
what does "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," " translate to in your part of the world?

When preceded by "I always wondered about why he didn't release it" and followeed by "but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that," not very much.

Except, it means the opposite of what I said.

On the assumption that you are just being dense, instead of dishonest, I'll explain more slowly.

I said "What possible reason would there be for Obama to dignify the "birthers" by giving such approval?"

This suggests that I don't believe that there is any reason.

When you say "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," ", well, that shows that you understand one reason NOT to give such approval. But when you say "I always wondered about why he didn't release it," and "but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that.", well, that means that you think that there were some reasons for Obama to dignify the Birthers.

Put another way: You have "always wondered" why Obama didn't dignify the Birthers. I have not, and I don't see any reason why he should.



Tomorrow, I can explain to you why up is up and down is down, and not the other way around. But only if you demonstrate that you actually understand the above.

Sidd Finch 04-22-2010 05:05 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422134)
so for a flow chart my post would look like this-

10 "why doesn't he just turn it over" is a reasonable question to me-
20 still I know a reasonable answer is "fuck you you didn't ask Bush or Kerry."
30 OTOH, since the first question did seem reasonable, initially, I bet that many people might not agree with line 20.

Right.

While the flowchart of my post would be: "There is no reason for Obama to just turn it over."

I realize that, by stating this in the form of a rhetorical question, I may have confused you. My apologies. I will use smaller words and simpler techniques in the future, to make sure you understand.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-22-2010 05:21 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 422124)
again, not to support the birthers but that isn't true, even from cletus' link. they will release more to an "interested" party, and I thought with the persons approval.

Don't you know the answer to this already.

The real certificate has a note on it saying "born in the part of Hawaii that is in Kenya".

Cletus Miller 04-22-2010 05:24 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 422137)
Don't you know the answer to this already.

The real certificate has a note on it saying "born in the part of Hawaii that is in Kenya".

Didn't Kenya pull their embassy out of Hawaii after a bad experience with kalua pork in late March 1961?

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 05:24 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 422135)
When preceded by "I always wondered about why he didn't release it" and followeed by "but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that," not very much.

Except, it means the opposite of what I said.

On the assumption that you are just being dense, instead of dishonest, I'll explain more slowly.

I said "What possible reason would there be for Obama to dignify the "birthers" by giving such approval?"

This suggests that I don't believe that there is any reason.

When you say "I mean I get "fuck you, you didn't ask Bush or Kerry for theirs," ", well, that shows that you understand one reason NOT to give such approval. But when you say "I always wondered about why he didn't release it," and "but I could see a bunch of people not seeing that.", well, that means that you think that there were some reasons for Obama to dignify the Birthers.

Put another way: You have "always wondered" why Obama didn't dignify the Birthers. I have not, and I don't see any reason why he should.



Tomorrow, I can explain to you why up is up and down is down, and not the other way around. But only if you demonstrate that you actually understand the above.

so the order of sentences on paper will often get unstuck in your head and then can re-align themselves in any random order? that does fit with the data I've seen.

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 422136)
Right.

While the flowchart of my post would be: "There is no reason for Obama to just turn it over."

I realize that, by stating this in the form of a rhetorical question, I may have confused you. My apologies. I will use smaller words and simpler techniques in the future, to make sure you understand.

your post would be "syntax error." no offense.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-22-2010 05:27 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 422138)
Didn't Kenya pull their embassy out of Hawaii after a bad experience with kalua pork in late March 1961?

But I don't think Hawaii ever recognized the pull out - they thought the problem was over that spongy bread stuff the Kenyans ate, and didn't like anyone maligning their pork. To this day I think there's still a little bit of Kenya in Hawaii.

Hank Chinaski 04-22-2010 05:34 PM

Re: Score one for the Birthers
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 422141)
But I don't think Hawaii ever recognized the pull out - they thought the problem was over that spongy bread stuff the Kenyans ate, and didn't like anyone maligning their pork. To this day I think there's still a little bit of Kenya in Hawaii.

pull out is basically catholic, or bukake. did the missionaries get much traction in Hawaii?


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