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taxwonk 08-28-2016 05:06 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 502531)
My sister worked at EPGY, which was an online school developed by Stanford, for 8 years. The school itself goes back at 30 years, and I've known a few people who benefited from it because they blew past their own school's math or science courses.

If done properly, online education can be an awesome supplement to in classroom education. I'm sure that the State of Georgia (as probably my own state) have other motives, but it could be certainly something that helps teach kids.

I don't object to online (or any other type) of home schooling, except when it is used to keep evil influences like people of differing opinions or skin color. I'm sure it can be a fantastic supplement to a school that at be struggling in certain areas.

I don't think it's used to supplement public classroom education in Georgia. At least not for most of the people I've met here who use it.

Pretty Little Flower 08-29-2016 04:45 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 502530)
There's a dj sub-genre called Ghetto Funk. My husband sometimes plays it. This is from a Halloween party he did in 2014: https://www.mixcloud.com/graham14/g-funk-train/

Thanks, I just had a chance to listen. Tell Graham I am a fan, although if I were asked to describe the Ghetto Funk sub-genre based on his mix, I would have a hard time capturing it (other than "eclectic"). Today's Daily Dose is "Fatcakes" by Jimmy McGriff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmKF9YuPlvw

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-29-2016 05:05 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 502539)
I don't object to online (or any other type) of home schooling, except when it is used to keep evil influences like people of differing opinions or skin color. I'm sure it can be a fantastic supplement to a school that at be struggling in certain areas.

I don't think it's used to supplement public classroom education in Georgia. At least not for most of the people I've met here who use it.

We been schoolin' Homie Hank here for years, but it ain't done shit.

Not Bob 08-29-2016 07:35 PM

Anthony works in the grocery store ....
 
.... at least he will be if he applies using a different name.

The soon to be former Mr. Huma Abedin is proof that a seemingly smart guy can be pretty fucking stupid. His marriage is over and may not see his kid again any time soon, thanks to the Post.

Poor Huma -- and that poor kid. I sincerely hope she changes his name - going to middle school with the last name of "Weiner" would have been bad enough three Twitter scandals ago, but this is just ridiculous.

Not Bob 08-29-2016 07:51 PM

Got to give myself a little talking to this time.
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 502380)
Anvesteal? Have you been hitting the single malt? It's not all peaty, you know. Avoid stuff from Islay (although not even all of those whiskies are peaty). Macallan is not the most adventurous scotch choice, but it is still damn good, and the 18 is ridiculously smooth. The 25 is probably wasted money for you if you are not a lover of single malt. Drop in an ice cube if you must, but not in public. Some people get offended by that shit.

Although I don't *need* another expensive liquor habit, your life advice has never led me wrong, so Macallan 18 it is. (I drink higher-end Irish neat, so I don't think that I will be offending anyone by putting ice in it.)

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower
I assume you are fucking with me with your Dr. Hook lyrics, which I had to Google because I don't really know anything about Dr. Hook.

Sadly, that was unintentional fucking with. I knew that Dr. John had a hit in the 1970s, and I got my doctors mixed up. That kind of thing happens to me - I frequently mix up Donovan and Nilsson (single-named sorta quirky solo artists of the 60s/70s), the Black Crows and the Counting Crows (uh, crows), and Duke Ellington and Count Basie (titles of nobility).

Forgive me. Although I do quite like the Dr. Hook line I quoted.

Not Bob 08-29-2016 08:18 PM

Often wrong, but never in doubt.
 
Interesting interactive from the NYT -- At Least 110 Republican Leaders Won't Vote for Trump.

I have to admit, I am surprised how early (February!) some of the neo-cons spoke out against him, and how they didn't recant their apostasy even when Jeb!, Cruz, and Rubio fell by the way-side.

Pretty Little Flower 08-29-2016 09:32 PM

Re: Got to give myself a little talking to this time.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502548)
Sadly, that was unintentional fucking with. I knew that Dr. John had a hit in the 1970s, and I got my doctors mixed up. That kind of thing happens to me - I frequently mix up Donovan and Nilsson (single-named sorta quirky solo artists of the 60s/70s), the Black Crows and the Counting Crows (uh, crows), and Duke Ellington and Count Basie (titles of nobility).

Forgive me. Although I do quite like the Dr. Hook line I quoted.

NotBob, that is just plain ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as when you swore that Captain and Tennille was the original riot grrrl band or that Creed "had a lot of elements of punk rock, both in its subversive arrangements and its subtly nihilist lyrics." But plain ridiculous it is. I sentence you to listen to Dr. John's Gris Gris by yourself at midnight in a room lit only by candles. You are welcome in advance.

Adder 08-30-2016 10:56 AM

Re: Got to give myself a little talking to this time.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502548)
(I drink higher-end Irish neat, so I don't think that I will be offending anyone by putting ice in it.)

I had some Teelings in Dublin, which I quite enjoyed, and I've started to see it over here. Unfortunately I'm not sure which one it was.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-30-2016 12:31 PM

Re: Not Bob Wishes He Was Someone Just a Little More Funky...
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502548)


I frequently mix up the Black Crows and the Counting Crows...

That statement may be the one thing that could bring about a Slave/Paigow reunion tour...

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-30-2016 02:00 PM

Re: Anthony works in the grocery store ....
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502547)
.... at least he will be if he applies using a different name.

The soon to be former Mr. Huma Abedin is proof that a seemingly smart guy can be pretty fucking stupid. His marriage is over and may not see his kid again any time soon, thanks to the Post.

Poor Huma -- and that poor kid. I sincerely hope she changes his name - going to middle school with the last name of "Weiner" would have been bad enough three Twitter scandals ago, but this is just ridiculous.

One of the best comments I've seen on this so far is that Anthony Weiner's continued existence is proof the Clinton don't have people killed.

I can just see the headline writers at the NY Tabloids knocking off early and going home for the rest of the week. These headlines will write themselves.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-30-2016 03:19 PM

Re: Got to give myself a little talking to this time.
 
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Although I don't *need* another expensive liquor habit, your life advice has never led me wrong, so Macallan 18 it is. (I drink higher-end Irish neat, so I don't think that I will be offending anyone by putting ice in it.)
18 is too smooth, and too expensive. And none of the Macallans are enhanced with ice. Laphroaig Quarter Cask is the whiskey you want if you're seeking premium flavor which is improved with ice or water. But it is a quite peaty, so be warned. (Once you develop a taste for it, however, it's hard to drink anything else.)

sebastian_dangerfield 08-30-2016 03:27 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 502517)
Maybe this time is different, but don't pretend that you're saying something that hasn't been said ad nauseum back to antiquity and been wrong.

Don't pretend that back to antiquity, every time technology disap0lced a mass amount of workers, there hasn't been an interim period of extreme pain before that same technology created enough jobs to replace to those lost.

Economists, being McScientists and McAntropologists of the most dubious sort, love to cite laws in the absolute, out of context, and without consideration of time. Only a profession so full of shit and so often wrong would offer the argument, "Technology always ultimately creates more jobs!" without noting the process is lengthy and savages those unlucky enough to live through its more extreme instances.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-30-2016 03:43 PM

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I don't know, now? We've got some slack still in the labor supply in prime age people who dropped out of the workforce, but nonetheless, we're currently in a low-unemployment environment.
True. But wages? Not so good: http://www.epi.org/publication/chart...ge-stagnation/

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Sure, globalization and catch up growth means we're not going to continue to maintain the lead we've enjoyed in living standards, but result isn't the apocalypse you're predicting.
Donald Trump is the GOP nominee for President. Normally, I'd agree apocalyptic results would be outlier possibilities. But... Well, I'm not so quick to take anything off the table anymore. We are living in a bit of a Bizarro Universe.

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ETA: It's not an argument. It's a historical observation.
The population has been growing on Earth for a pretty long period of time. In almost every country, its statistically impossible to state that there are less jobs as a result of tech than there were in years before. Inevitably, sooner or later, more jobs appear as more bodies appear. People tend to find stuff to do. The shitshow that took place during those tech upheavals is the interesting story.
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The frictions you're talking about just don't play out the way you see it. Instead of masses of useless people without work, you get stagnant median wages and greater income inequality. Those are problems we more or less know how to solve (higher taxes on the rich and greater investment in education, research, training, etc). But again, one party doesn't want to solve them.
Jesus, man, really? Investment in education? Retraining? These are the most tired salves trotted out by the most uncreative politicians. They're the liberal equivalent of the conservatives' tired argument, "Just lower taxes on business and the job creators will fix everything!" That these "solutions" are still bandied about in the political sphere shows the intellectual stagnation of this country. Or more ominously, the collusion of the two parties to offer nothing more than competing forms of lip service to serious problems.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-30-2016 03:45 PM

Re: Not Bob Wishes He Was Someone Just a Little More Funky...
 
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 502552)
That statement may be the one thing that could bring about a Slave/Paigow reunion tour...

And give Chris Robinson a stroke.

Hank Chinaski 08-30-2016 04:25 PM

Re: Not Bob Wishes He Was Someone Just a Little More Funky...
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502557)
And give Chris Robinson a stroke.

I rent an apartment on the UWS from the Black Crowes road manager. Are they the cool band or are CCs?

Pretty Little Flower 08-30-2016 04:53 PM

Re: Not Bob Wishes He Was Someone Just a Little More Funky...
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502563)
I rent an apartment on the UWS from the Black Crowes road manager. Are they the cool band or are CCs?

The Counting Crows guy has dreadlocks, which are counterculture, so probably them. Let's freak out a little with some Funkadelic. "Funky Dollar Bill" for the Daily Dose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfVSqQ7FcDY

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-30-2016 05:05 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502556)

Jesus, man, really? Investment in education? Retraining? These are the most tired salves trotted out by the most uncreative politicians. They're the liberal equivalent of the conservatives' tired argument, "Just lower taxes on business and the job creators will fix everything!" That these "solutions" are still bandied about in the political sphere shows the intellectual stagnation of this country. Or more ominously, the collusion of the two parties to offer nothing more than competing forms of lip service to serious problems.

There is one and only one sensible solution to what ailes us in politics today.

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Laphroaig Quarter Cask is the whiskey you want if you're seeking premium flavor which is improved with ice or water. But it is a quite peaty, so be warned. (Once you develop a taste for it, however, it's hard to drink anything else.)

And, yes, that is it.

Icky Thump 08-30-2016 05:20 PM

Re: Not Bob Wishes He Was Someone Just a Little More Funky...
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502563)
I rent an apartment on the UWS from the Black Crowes road manager. Are they the cool band or are CCs?

Let the record reflect laughter.

Adder 08-30-2016 05:37 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502555)
Don't pretend that back to antiquity, every time technology disap0lced a mass amount of workers, there hasn't been an interim period of extreme pain before that same technology created enough jobs to replace to those lost.

There was some smashing of the aforementioned looms, but no, I don't think there are any significant historical examples of "extreme pain" in the form of meaningfully lowered living standards for any significant portion of the population.

I mean, it's possible I'm not aware of them, but you'd think something like the "steam engine famine" would be something we'd all know about.

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Economists, being McScientists and McAntropologists of the most dubious sort, love to cite laws in the absolute, out of context, and without consideration of time. Only a profession so full of shit and so often wrong would offer the argument, "Technology always ultimately creates more jobs!" without noting the process is lengthy and savages those unlucky enough to live through its more extreme instances.
Again, this is a historical observation as much as an economic one. History is simply lacking in examples of technology making the world poorer.

You seem to be thinking about this in a much too static way. As if Day X has level Y of employment and technology, only to be disrupted on Day X+1 with a large shock the needs time to sort out. Instead, there's constant variability in employment and technology and few or no massive shocks. Day X+1 might have three fewer bank tellers than the day before, that one of those people got a different job for the same pay, one took a job with lesser pay and one was unemployed for a bit until they found something else. There are problems to be dealt with there, but no, technology didn't great a great mass of unneeded workers.

Adder 08-30-2016 05:47 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502556)

This is a fundamentally different observation than "technology is going to leave us with a lot of unneeded workers."

I also saw something today about more recent, short-term data on improving wages, but I didn't look at it closely (Teddy hurt his knee!), and can't put my finger on it right now.

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Donald Trump is the GOP nominee for President. Normally, I'd agree apocalyptic results would be outlier possibilities. But... Well, I'm not so quick to take anything off the table anymore. We are living in a bit of a Bizarro Universe.
It's much less bizarro when you accept: (1) racists gonna racist and misogynists gonna misogyny, (2) the abject weakness of the rest of the GOP field, (3) the complete failure of the GOP to define themselves as for anything other than "not Obama" and their increasingly unpopular culture war.

Regardless, the rise of populist movements tells us a lot about voter sentiment. It doesn't tell us much about the economy, which no one, much less those voters, really understands.

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People tend to find stuff to do.
Yes, you're getting it now.

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The shitshow that took place during those tech upheavals is the interesting story.
Do tell.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-30-2016 08:23 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502555)
Don't pretend that back to antiquity, every time technology disap0lced a mass amount of workers, there hasn't been an interim period of extreme pain before that same technology created enough jobs to replace to those lost.

Economists, being McScientists and McAntropologists of the most dubious sort, love to cite laws in the absolute, out of context, and without consideration of time. Only a profession so full of shit and so often wrong would offer the argument, "Technology always ultimately creates more jobs!" without noting the process is lengthy and savages those unlucky enough to live through its more extreme instances.

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Microsoft did not dispute reports that it would spend $1.1 billion on the Boydton data center, and said that “on average, data centers employ tens to several dozen people,” in a mixture of corporate and contracted positions. It declined to let a reporter tour the site.

“They talked about 100 jobs, but it’s a slow process,” said Thomas C. Coleman III, the mayor of Boydton. So far, he says, the biggest impact “has been a couple of lunch tables at the Triangle gas station.”
link

Not Bob 08-31-2016 10:07 AM

Ollie wants to be Bob Dylan ...
 
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 502552)
That statement may be the one thing that could bring about a Slave/Paigow reunion tour...

True and timely story -- I was dropping some old books off for Podunkville's Our Lady of Perpetual Motion's annual rummage sale yesterday after work, and saw a bunch of CDs for sale. Within mere inches of each other were copies of "Shake Your Moneymaker" and "Recovering the Satellites."

When I saw CDs from Better Than Ezra, Moxy Früvous (!), and the Wallflowers, I realized that someone bit the bullet and finally decided to clear out the old bedroom of their thirtysomething* child.

*Maybe even fortysomething at this point. Yikes.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-31-2016 10:34 AM

Re: Ollie wants to be Bob Dylan ...
 
Can I just say, I've laid in extra popcorn for this Mexico trip/immigration speech combo. What could go wrong?

Tyrone Slothrop 08-31-2016 12:05 PM

Re: Ollie wants to be Bob Dylan ...
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502571)
True and timely story -- I was dropping some old books off for Podunkville's Our Lady of Perpetual Motion's annual rummage sale yesterday after work, and saw a bunch of CDs for sale. Within mere inches of each other were copies of "Shake Your Moneymaker" and "Recovering the Satellites."

When I saw CDs from Better Than Ezra, Moxy Früvous (!), and the Wallflowers, I realized that someone bit the bullet and finally decided to clear out the old bedroom of their thirtysomething* child.

*Maybe even fortysomething at this point. Yikes.

Someone who has digital music went all Marie Kondo.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-31-2016 12:29 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
For Sebby.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-31-2016 01:43 PM

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Yes, you're getting it now.
But you're not.

Even a cursory look at the history of debates on "technological unemployment" shows most authorities holding mixed views. It's only in the last 150 years where economists' views conveniently start dovetailing with those of industrialists, who obviously profit from and deflect criticism with the academic consensus, "Technology always employs more than it displaces!"

The theory that severely disruptive technology leads to more jobs should be modified to "Disruptive technological revolutions eventually- after a long period of time during which new jobs develop as a result of them - appear to create more jobs than they initially displace. Most of the initially displaced, however, do not receive these new jobs. In many cases, economies only eclipse initial jobs lost with new jobs gained decades, or perhaps a generation, after the introduction of the disruptive technology." That describes the phenomenon in total, as it should be explained.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-31-2016 01:51 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 502574)

He's been a man of his word. Between this and the feds declaring they will use no more private prisons, I'll happily concede to TM that I was wrong, and I have egg on my face. Obama has been beyond exemplary on this issue, and for this alone he should be ranked among the best Presidents we've had.

This issue is That Big. If we're the kind of people who'd jail our own citizens so cruelly, and let the most vile of predatory industrialists and financiers profit from it, the rest of everything about which we argue is immaterial... A country with that kind of rot in its core should collapse for the better of humanity.

Adder 08-31-2016 02:51 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502575)
It's only in the last 150 years where economists' views conveniently start dovetailing with those of industrialists,

Yikes. You're citing the state of knowledge of 150 years ago as superior to today's? After 150 years of the most rapid technological change in human history? Okay.

And you continue to argue against a straw man. I'm not claiming that technology instantly makes new jobs. I'm saying that your view - that technology has rendered large groups of people useless - is wrong. This is primarily because people find things to do rather than remain idle.

Which is why the problem is stagnant or declining wages - because some of those things aren't a valuable as what people were doing - rather than mass unemployment.

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The theory that severely disruptive technology leads to more jobs should be modified to "Disruptive technological revolutions eventually- after a long period of time during which new jobs develop as a result of them - appear to create more jobs than they initially displace. Most of the initially displaced, however, do not receive these new jobs. In many cases, economies only eclipse initial jobs lost with new jobs gained decades, or perhaps a generation, after the introduction of the disruptive technology." That describes the phenomenon in total, as it should be explained.
Again, you're talking about technological change as if it happens in a single point in time, and only occasionally. If those thing were true, you'd have a point. But they aren't. New technology isn't adopted instantly and disruptive ones are being invented all the time.

Frankly a better argument for your worldview would be that past technological changes are poor guidance because they happened in a world where labor was a scarce input and thus could be redeployed to other productive use. Maybe today is different, because we've reached a technological threshold at which there are no other productive uses for labor. In other words, this time is different.

I don't happen to think that, but it would at least be a coherent point.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-31-2016 03:29 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502576)
He's been a man of his word. Between this and the feds declaring they will use no more private prisons, I'll happily concede to TM that I was wrong, and I have egg on my face. Obama has been beyond exemplary on this issue, and for this alone he should be ranked among the best Presidents we've had.

This issue is That Big. If we're the kind of people who'd jail our own citizens so cruelly, and let the most vile of predatory industrialists and financiers profit from it, the rest of everything about which we argue is immaterial... A country with that kind of rot in its core should collapse for the better of humanity.

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/upl...ce-Meme-16.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDar...dOCc/giphy.gif

http://media.tenor.co/images/d9c2ecd...51ed415ffa/raw

TM

Pretty Little Flower 08-31-2016 05:47 PM

Re: Ollie wants to be Bob Dylan ...
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502571)
True and timely story -- I was dropping some old books off for Podunkville's Our Lady of Perpetual Motion's annual rummage sale yesterday after work, and saw a bunch of CDs for sale. Within mere inches of each other were copies of "Shake Your Moneymaker" and "Recovering the Satellites."

When I saw CDs from Better Than Ezra, Moxy Früvous (!), and the Wallflowers, I realized that someone bit the bullet and finally decided to clear out the old bedroom of their thirtysomething* child.

*Maybe even fortysomething at this point. Yikes.

Better Than Ezra is one of my least favorite band names. Ever. Time to freak the fuck out with some pre-Go Go-era Experience Unlimited. Back when they were seeking alternate consciousness musical funk-based realities. NotBob, have you listened to Gris Gris at midnight in a room lit only by candles yet? If not, maybe listen to this first, at dusk, in a room that has electric lighting, but nothing too bright or glaring. It will be a good first step for you. The Daily Dose is "Funky Consciousness":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbEk8Tbmzqg

Hank Chinaski 08-31-2016 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 502584)
Better Than Ezra is one of my least favorite band names. Ever.

Pretty Little Flower is my second least favorite sock name. Ever........................................ 256 tied for first! Haha. Just tricking! Luv ya like a bro!

ThurgreedMarshall 09-01-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502585)
Pretty Little Flower is my second least favorite sock name. Ever........................................ 256 tied for first! Haha. Just tricking! Luv ya like a bro!

That would make him your 257th least favorite sock name.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 09-01-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 502586)
That would make him your 257th least favorite sock name.

TM

Details.

I'm toying with making Thursdays into "JB Thursday" on the Daily Dose. Because, well, why the fuck not? Here is the long version of "Soul Power." Sometimes longer versions tend to be a bit self-indulgent, but I never find that with a good James Brown funk jam. Rock to this shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0OJUcxdL24

Hank Chinaski 09-03-2016 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 502592)
Details.

I'm toying with making Thursdays into "JB Thursday" on the Daily Dose. Because, well, why the fuck not?

I applaud this! We should all make decisions and pronouncements like this..... While we can. Once Trump takes over .......well

Adder 09-06-2016 04:15 PM

Not amusing
 
In the category of thoughts that aren't fully developed for more more public expression: while a confession in the Jacob Wetterling case confirms horrible things, it also could have been worse. Patty said he was alive to them until they found the remains last week, it's probably better that he was killed shortly after being taken rather than subjected to prolonged abuse.

Replaced_Texan 09-07-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 502600)
In the category of thoughts that aren't fully developed for more more public expression: while a confession in the Jacob Wetterling case confirms horrible things, it also could have been worse. Patty said he was alive to them until they found the remains last week, it's probably better that he was killed shortly after being taken rather than subjected to prolonged abuse.

Watching Stranger Things over the three days that this story unfolded was somewhat freaky.

Hank Chinaski 09-07-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 502601)
Watching Stranger Things over the three days that this story unfolded was somewhat freaky.

Spoiler SPOILER SPOILER














I was very disappointed in that show. Loved it at first, but the resolve was STOOPID!

ThurgreedMarshall 09-07-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502602)
Spoiler SPOILER SPOILER














I was very disappointed in that show. Loved it at first, but the resolve was STOOPID!

Why?

TM

Hank Chinaski 09-07-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 502603)
Why?

TM

You watched?












Okay, 11 was great and the kids too. And all the drama of the monster and the mystery of the goop in the basement.

But there's this top level government agency apparently doing mind control experiments with at least one gifted person. Are there others, or is 11 unique? I assume there are others, but nothing more about it, or the goals of the program, other than some hints.

But that wasn't my problem. The government had little idea what the monster or the goop was about? They sent their guy in there to find out, but that didn't go well. So this monster, who steals people to be hosts for it's babies, has taken up residence in this otherwise protected lab; but there's no apparent tie to the mind control stuff. At a minimum, say the government hopes to someday harness this monster, at least move the mind control stuff somewhere safer. I mean I didn't see the upside down as anything the government really knew about, or did I miss something?

It just started with "here's a bunch of really weird shit," and the promise of explaining it, but the end was "well that was some really weird shit." Disappointing.

Plus it sucks Will is likely dying.


P.S. just saw there's a season two so maybe they go into stuff more?

Replaced_Texan 09-07-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502609)
You watched?












Okay, 11 was great and the kids too. And all the drama of the monster and the mystery of the goop in the basement.

But there's this top level government agency apparently doing mind control experiments with at least one gifted person. Are there others, or is 11 unique? I assume there are others, but nothing more about it, or the goals of the program, other than some hints.

But that wasn't my problem. The government had little idea what the monster or the goop was about? They sent their guy in there to find out, but that didn't go well. So this monster, who steals people to be hosts for it's babies, has taken up residence in this otherwise protected lab; but there's no apparent tie to the mind control stuff. At a minimum, say the government hopes to someday harness this monster, at least move the mind control stuff somewhere safer. I mean I didn't see the upside down as anything the government really knew about, or did I miss something?

It just started with "here's a bunch of really weird shit," and the promise of explaining it, but the end was "well that was some really weird shit." Disappointing.

Plus it sucks Will is likely dying.


P.S. just saw there's a season two so maybe they go into stuff more?

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I thought the upside down was something they discovered through Eleven when they were trying to get her to expand her telepathy to spy on the dude in Russia. Her freak out after her first interaction with the faceless monster was what tore open the hole between the two dimensions.

I don't know exactly, but I got the impression that she broke out of there very shortly after that happened, and the whole series took place over the course of a week or so. The government shifted focus quickly to the upside down as soon as it was discovered, but it wasn't the primary aim of that lab.

And she still had a connection to the upside down place. She knew where Will was in relation to his own world, and she was able to see Barb's corpse without actually GOING there. So if they wanted to study it, going telepathically was infinitely safer (for everyone but her) than sending in idiot volunteers to get slaughtered.


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