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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-05-2010 08:05 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430955)
You're seriously surprised that the media takes a stat that has some nuance to it and reports it in the most attention grabbing manner possible? I had previously thought of you as a reasonably perceptive chap.

And even your quoted meaning of "very low food security" insufficiently conveys the actual data, so what do you expect the chuckleheads who write the news to do to properly convey the real situation, a situation which is still only coarsely measured by the actual data?

Less only watches Fox. He's used to fair and balanced.

LessinSF 08-05-2010 08:05 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430955)
And even your quoted meaning of "very low food security" insufficiently conveys the actual data, so what do you expect the chuckleheads who write the news to do to properly convey the real situation, a situation which is still only coarsely measured by the actual data?

I expect them to give a copy of the article on the worst fast foods to every "food insecure" person so that they don't waste their money - in a calories to dollar sense.

Cletus Miller 08-05-2010 08:08 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 430958)
I expect them to give a copy of the article on the worst fast foods to every "food insecure" person so that they don't waste their money - in a calories to dollar sense.

Probably be cheaper to distribute coupons valid only for the highest calorie per dollar meals at their local purveyor of fast food. Or sacks of potatoes.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-05-2010 08:15 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 430958)
I expect them to give a copy of the article on the worst fast foods to every "food insecure" person so that they don't waste their money - in a calories to dollar sense.

That's really the issue. There are still a lot of kids who don't get enough to eat while their parents wolf down the Mickey D's, buy cigarettes, and drink beer.

Atticus Grinch 08-05-2010 08:16 PM

Re: Incidently
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 430948)
Yesterday I ran into one of the paralegals from my old firm who was friends with The Paralegal. She was on vacation with her family (before going to law school if memory serves) and recognized me coming out of a Neolithic site here in Ireland. I didn't really place her until after awaking hands with her dad, Nd didn't remember her name until after parting.

We did not hook up.

This is like the opposite of The Story of O. Like maybe The Story of 0.

Cletus Miller 08-05-2010 08:20 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430960)
That's really the issue. There are still a lot of kids who don't get enough to eat while their parents wolf down the Mickey D's, buy cigarettes, and drink beer.

A lot, but a lot fewer, percentage-wise, than adults, based on the data I linked to. And I'd bet that, for the school-aged kids, the times it happens are mostly during the summer when they can't get free/cheap lunch (and breakfast, many places) at school. Not that school lunches are nutritionally sound, either. But that's one valuable piece of data that isn't surveyed.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-05-2010 08:57 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430962)
A lot, but a lot fewer, percentage-wise, than adults, based on the data I linked to. And I'd bet that, for the school-aged kids, the times it happens are mostly during the summer when they can't get free/cheap lunch (and breakfast, many places) at school. Not that school lunches are nutritionally sound, either. But that's one valuable piece of data that isn't surveyed.

I confess, I've seen much more of the hungry child/beer and McDonald's parent case. Until she retired, my mother taught first grade and reading in a very poor rural school district, and there were several kids in every class who fit the description I gave. Especially in first grade, where it might be the kid's first contact with a trustworthy and constant source of quality food twice a day, it was a big focus, particularly in September. With a lot of anger directed at the screw-up parents.

LessinSF 08-05-2010 09:45 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Apparently I should be curing hunger instead of making off-the-cuff comments here, but I watched Lindsay's trip to jail explained by animated Taiwanese video[/URL] instead. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_670420.html

ETA: With English subtitles

Hank Chinaski 08-05-2010 10:03 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430963)
I confess, I've seen much more of the hungry child/beer and McDonald's parent case. Until she retired, my mother taught first grade and reading in a very poor rural school district, and there were several kids in every class who fit the description I gave. Especially in first grade, where it might be the kid's first contact with a trustworthy and constant source of quality food twice a day, it was a big focus, particularly in September. With a lot of anger directed at the screw-up parents.

not to question your command of senses but that would be "you've heard" not "seen."

and there is little answer to parents that simply can't or won't care for their kids, is there? I mean short of protective services once someone learns of them.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-05-2010 10:16 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430966)
not to question your command of senses but that would be "you've heard" not "seen."

and there is little answer to parents that simply can't or won't care for their kids, is there? I mean short of protective services once someone learns of them.

No, that would be seen. Mom was my lift to school; I was in there many days, and would help with the post school errands for kids who needed particular help.

It takes a village, Hank, it takes a village. I think the answer in those cases almost always comes from someone other than the parents.

Hank Chinaski 08-05-2010 10:19 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430967)
No, that would be seen. Mom was my lift to school; I was in there many days, and would help with the post school errands for kids who needed particular help.

It takes a village, Hank, it takes a village. I think the answer in those cases almost always comes from someone other than the parents.

smh

LessinSF 08-06-2010 03:37 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430967)
It takes a village, Hank, it takes a village. I think the answer in those cases almost always comes from someone other than the parents.

The irony is that those who so vehemently advocate state/local/small government had their message so most eloquently expressed by Hillary.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-06-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Incidently
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430961)
This is like the opposite of The Story of O. Like maybe The Story of 0.

Story of No?


(and there's no "The." Pedantic, I know, but there you go).

ThurgreedMarshall 08-06-2010 10:11 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 430958)
I expect them to give a copy of the article on the worst fast foods to every "food insecure" person so that they don't waste their money - in a calories to dollar sense.

No you don't.

TM

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 08-06-2010 10:31 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Awesome baseball catch. As easy to understand as the Lindsey Lohan animation.


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