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TexLex 07-16-2003 03:16 PM

Homeless, etc.
 
There's a guy in downtown Houston who spends a lot of time in the county buildings handing out little cards that say (in detail) that he is the real president of the US and his rightful position has been taken from him by a great conspiracy, etc. Can't remember what he calls himself, but it's something like His Highness, President Jones. Haven't seen him in a while, though, but I know he bathes in the county library men's room because I know someone who walked in on the guy standing there buck nekkid (The President, not the friend - that would be different).

The homeless problem here is pretty bad and no one really seems to care. I have given food to people who look like they needed it and they took it with gratitude. I don't give money out as a rule, especially to people giving me the "I need $5.00 for gas/bus fare to get home" bit - except once when the woman appeared to be in labor. If she wasn't, they deserved the money for the show.

And while we're talking about begging - there is an awful lot of people sending their middle-class kids out (sports teams, church clubs, etc) out in heavy traffic begging for money to go on a trip (or whatever). You know what? If you want my money, you better learn to wash a car or sell some baked goods to earn it, because begging isn't cutting it, baby.

-TL

NotFromHere 07-16-2003 03:17 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The one and only. I was hoping the article would cast some light on what "zegnatronic" means. The document does not, as it were, speak for itself. I'll have to continue to assume that it's a kind of house music.
Does he still have Rasputin Music ad on the back of his sign?

Seattle has a "no aggressive pan handling" law that was enacted a few years ago when the economy was previously in the tank and tourists (and locals) bitched that the panhandlers were not only asking for $, but being obnoxious about it. You can arrest those people. There is also a "no loitering" law, so if you want to panhandle, you gotta be standing. If you're sitting or laying down, that'll get you tossed into the city facility. Reason for that was that people were using puppies and kitties to help their cause (which was cruel to the animals forced to live without food while their caretaker drank thunderbird). It allowed the city to put the animals into adoptive homes.

So, if you're in Seattle, you won't find anyone sitting down on the job. Unlike SF, where most of those guys are sitting at the top of the steps of the Bart.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-16-2003 03:19 PM

Homeless, etc.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
There's a guy in downtown Houston who spends a lot of time in the county buildings handing out little cards that say (in detail) that he is the real president of the US and his rightful position has been taken from him by a great conspiracy, etc.
When did Al Gore lose his house and move to Houston?

Atticus Grinch 07-16-2003 03:19 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Or something to do with the venerable fashion family??

www.zegna.com
Based on the distinctly Jos. A. Bank quality of his haberdashery, I would suppose not. But my guess was an even more distant possibility --- that it was a misspelling of zeugma. His use of big, made up words caused me think he might have been a rhetoric major at Cal.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-16-2003 03:21 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand

Two of my favorites here are the guy who wears a sandwich board claiming Hart Schaffner and Marx (HQ'd here) did something to him in some vast global conspiracy.
Did his sandwich board previously say something about Al Gore being abducted by aliens and replaced by a robot? I LOVE that guy.

robustpuppy 07-16-2003 03:23 PM

Non-aggressive Panhandling?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Threads
A street guy came up to me yesterday when I was stopped at a traffic light (on my bicycle) and told me with great sincerity that I looked exactly like the redhead in Sex and the City.
Where do you think the guy watches HBO?

Sidd Finch 07-16-2003 03:23 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
A few years ago, a mentally ill homeless man in Houston attacked an attorney on the street near the courthouses and stole his briefcase. A local judge was waved down by the attorney, and he ended up chasing (going the wrong way on a one way street) the panhandler and shooting him three times when the panhandler attacked the judge after being asked to surrender the briefcase. The homeless man died. There were no indictments in the case.

Is it normal for a judge to be armed in Texas?

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 07-16-2003 03:24 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Did his sandwich board previously say something about Al Gore being abducted by aliens and replaced by a robot? I LOVE that guy.
Different guy. Remember that one, but haven't seen him for a while... Must have gotten a different schtick as the Gore being a robot thing is kind of dated.

Edited to add: Not LOVE as in man-crush, I hope, Coltrane...

TexLex 07-16-2003 03:28 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Is it normal for a judge to be armed in Texas?
Yes.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-16-2003 03:30 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by c2ed
I was wondering who he was. About 3 weeks ago he was walking on the Embarcardero (and had slightly changed his sign again) and demanding of passers-by whether they were involved in the dermagoglical invasion of television and the minds of the young milognolauts. I declined to reply to his query, as I didn't have a fucking clue as to what he meant and have enough wackjobs in my life to deal with already.
The guy is a genius about getting on TV. If you watch the local news and there's a story involving a crowd downtown -- a protest, etc. -- he's there, holding his sign.

str8outavannuys 07-16-2003 03:36 PM

Beggars Don't Sock
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Toronto has tons of homeless people. When I was last there, they seemed to be getting quite creative with their begging. For example, one woman asked me for change because she wanted to send her kids to summer camp. A man asked me for change so he could get a Leafs ticket because he wanted to see them play before he died. I gave him some quarters.
If I were homeless, I would totally buckle down on my pan-handling, save up enough for a bus ticket, and move somewhere warm. Don't you think? But not too warm, like Phoenix. In fact, I'd pick LA. Which I did. Of course, homeless people probably don't have passports or ID sufficient to cross borders. But if you're homeless and American and without friends or family, why would you stay in New Haven? Close proximity to Dunkin Donuts?

str(insensitive to the homeless)8

Replaced_Texan 07-16-2003 03:36 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Is it normal for a judge to be armed in Texas?
My guess is yes, though I have nothing really to back the claim up with. I imagine that some of them are concerned about pissed off litigants. This is the only case that I know of in the modern era, though, where the armed judge ran (actually limped, the judge claimed he was armed because he had a pronounced limp) down a suspect and administered lead justice off the bench during the lunch hour.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-16-2003 03:37 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
[Q:Is it normal for a judge to be armed in Texas? ]
A: Yes.
WAsn't there big national coverage of allowing judges to pack heat a few years back?

Sidd Finch 07-16-2003 03:40 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
My guess is yes, though I have nothing really to back the claim up with. I imagine that some of them are concerned about pissed off litigants. This is the only case that I know of in the modern era, though, where the armed judge ran (actually limped, the judge claimed he was armed because he had a pronounced limp) down a suspect and administered lead justice off the bench during the lunch hour.
From this, I'm figuring all judges in Texas must be armed. Otherwise, why would the lawyer who'd just been attacked flag down a limping judge to help him out? With all due respect to the physically challenged, that's not the first person I'm looking to to run down a thief for me.

Good to know, in case I ever have a case in Texas.

Sidd(yes, your Honor, that's an excellent point, your Honor, and can I mention again how good you look today, your Honor?)Finch

Sidd Finch 07-16-2003 03:44 PM

Discipline, Sidd, discipline
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
WAsn't there big national coverage of allowing judges to pack heat a few years back?
I will not spend the next hour googling this. I will not spend the next hour googling this. I will not spend the next hour googling this. I will not spend the next hour googling this.


Sidd(I will run off with the stripper I met this weekend instead. I will....)Finch

ltl/fb 07-16-2003 03:45 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Is it normal for a judge to be armed in Texas?
I think the question is,

"Is it normal for anyone to be unarmed in Texas?" or at least,

"Is it rational to assume that someone you meet on the street in Texas is unarmed?"

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-16-2003 03:46 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Different guy. Remember that one, but haven't seen him for a while... Must have gotten a different schtick as the Gore being a robot thing is kind of dated.

Edited to add: Not LOVE as in man-crush, I hope, Coltrane...
No man-crush. And that's why I always liked that guy...b/c any Al Gore related news was so dated. He kept it up well into 2002.

Sazerac 07-16-2003 03:47 PM

Beggars Don't Sock
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If I were homeless, ... In fact, I'd pick LA.


I agree. Those homeless in the park by the pier in Santa Monica look pretty damn content.

ltl/fb 07-16-2003 03:49 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
WAsn't there big national coverage of allowing judges to pack heat a few years back?
What's "judge" got to do (got to do) with it? I believe Texas has concealed carry laws. So I could be packing heat in my purse. You might keep that in mind if we ever meet (in TX).

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-16-2003 03:50 PM

Beggars Don't Sock
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sazerac
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If I were homeless, ... In fact, I'd pick LA.


I agree. Those homeless in the park by the pier in Santa Monica look pretty damn content.

Same with the homeless in Key West. They have it made.

Beelzebubba 07-16-2003 03:50 PM

Discipline, Sidd, discipline
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I will run off with the stripper I met this weekend instead. I will....)
But does she squirt?

http://nerve.com/regulars/ididitfors...dex.asp?page=1

NotFromHere 07-16-2003 03:55 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
WAsn't there big national coverage of allowing judges to pack heat a few years back?
No, that was airline pilots.

purse junkie 07-16-2003 03:57 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
What's "judge" got to do (got to do) with it? I believe Texas has concealed carry laws. So I could be packing heat in my purse. You might keep that in mind if we ever meet (in TX).
I once received a lovely catalog in the mail containing stylish and ladylike holsters/handbags for your gun (pink leather armpit holster, anyone?). I believe because I once ordered a cop I know a cheerful "old-fashioned corner policeman helping a kiddie" type Christmas ornament.

Anyway, tempted as I was from an accessories standpoint, alas I do not own firearms.

NotFromHere 07-16-2003 03:59 PM

Beggars Don't Sock
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sazerac
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If I were homeless, ... In fact, I'd pick LA.

I agree. Those homeless in the park by the pier in Santa Monica look pretty damn content.
I knew a guy who ran away from home as a teenager, hooked up with an older gentleman who travelled to Hawaii with him as a "companion" who then decided to stay. He lived on the beaches of Maui for a year. That's what you gotta do if you're homeless.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-16-2003 03:59 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
No, that was airline pilots.
That's this year. I'm waiting for Sidd to come back with a report. But maybe it was loosening (further) the concealed weapons laws of Texas, or soemthing.

purse junkie 07-16-2003 04:03 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That's this year. I'm waiting for Sidd to come back with a report. But maybe it was loosening (further) the concealed weapons laws of Texas, or soemthing.
That, the heat, the hurricanes, the tornados, and the scorpions my best friend in college kept finding in his house whenever he went home, make me slightly wary of going to Texas. Anything else about it I should know about before I visit?

TexLex 07-16-2003 04:03 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
What's "judge" got to do (got to do) with it? I believe Texas has concealed carry laws. So I could be packing heat in my purse. You might keep that in mind if we ever meet (in TX).
Texas has concealed carry laws, but not in courtrooms. Judges traditionally arm themselves, but now I believe it is on the books - they may have to have a conceal/carry permit to take a gun into the courtroom, however.

I don't know a crim defense lawyer who doesn't keep a loaded gun in em's desk. They have not as much faith in their own clients as they want us to have.

-T(not packing)L

ms. naughty diplomat 07-16-2003 04:04 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Which big American city has the best (i.e., polite, non-aggressive, mentally normal but down on their luck) panhandlers? I say Chicago, but I don't have a lot of nationwide street experience.
not sure about the best, but i've like to nominate atlanta as having the worst. at least from what i've seen, atlanta seems to have the highest percentage of really agressive and threatening homeless people. between the homeless, maniac drivers, and the extreme heat and humidity, it quickly becomes obvious why no one ever walks there.

Sidd Finch 07-16-2003 04:05 PM

Discipline, Sidd, discipline
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Beelzebubba
But does she squirt?

http://nerve.com/regulars/ididitfors...dex.asp?page=1

That was absolutely hilarious. But the following line will stay with me for a few days, in an unpleasant bad-Mexican-food sort of way:

"I envisioned a time when the streets of Carthage, Sparta and Babylon were awash with unencumbered vaginal juices."

Ugh.

Anne Elk 07-16-2003 04:06 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
The guy is a genius about getting on TV. If you watch the local news and there's a story involving a crowd downtown -- a protest, etc. -- he's there, holding his sign.
Does he also attend various sporting events wearing a rainbow wig and carrying the bible citation sign? Haven't seen him in years, but he was everywhere.

Anne

I can't remember the citation. Wasn't John 23:6 or something like that?

TexLex 07-16-2003 04:07 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
That, the heat, the hurricanes, the tornados, and the scorpions my best friend in college kept finding in his house whenever he went home, make me slightly wary of going to Texas. Anything else about it I should know about before I visit?
There's no scorpions around Houston (ok, maybe 1 or 2, but I've never seen one), only snakes and if you can't deal with a little venom, then you're just a wimp. We're the Friendship State - how bad can it be?

-T(My mom spotted a bobcat just north of town last week - very cool)L

edited to add - and the traffic. You should definitely be prepared for that if you visit.

Shape Shifter 07-16-2003 04:07 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
That, the heat, the hurricanes, the tornados, and the scorpions my best friend in college kept finding in his house whenever he went home, make me slightly wary of going to Texas. Anything else about it I should know about before I visit?
Fire ants and the green salsa at Taqueria Arandas.

Replaced_Texan 07-16-2003 04:12 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
That, the heat, the hurricanes, the tornados, and the scorpions my best friend in college kept finding in his house whenever he went home, make me slightly wary of going to Texas. Anything else about it I should know about before I visit?
We're generally a friendly lot. That can be a little disconcerting to some people from northern locales.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-16-2003 04:12 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Does he also attend various sporting events wearing a rainbow wig and carrying the bible citation sign? Haven't seen him in years, but he was everywhere.

Anne

I can't remember the citation. Wasn't John 23:6 or something like that?
John 3:16.

And he's in jail for kidnapping or something. Which would explain why he hasn't been seen in a while.

There was a movie made about him a few years back called something like Rainbow Man.

Anne Elk 07-16-2003 04:15 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
John 3:16.

And he's in jail for kidnapping or something. Which would explain why he hasn't been seen in a while.

There was a movie made about him a few years back called something like Rainbow Man.
Thanks!! I will be able to sleep tonight.

From IMDB:
Remember that man in the rainbow-colored Afro wig who carried the "John 3:16" sign? During the 70s and 80s he seemed to be everywhere: at televised baseball and football games, shuttle launches, and hundreds of other events. So who was he, and what ever happened to him? In Sam Green's award-winning new "slapstick tragedy," we find out. And the truth involving an unhappy childhood, a kidnapped hotel maid, and three life sentences in prison is stranger than fiction...

IMDB link here

ltl/fb 07-16-2003 04:17 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
Texas has concealed carry laws, but not in courtrooms. Judges traditionally arm themselves, but now I believe it is on the books - they may have to have a conceal/carry permit to take a gun into the courtroom, however.

I don't know a crim defense lawyer who doesn't keep a loaded gun in em's desk. They have not as much faith in their own clients as they want us to have.

-T(not packing)L
I wasn't thinking in courtrooms (and wouldn't have thought judges could have guns in courtrooms; that kind of scares me and makes me glad I'm not ever in courtrooms) because it sounded like they were out on the street.

f(not telling)b

purse junkie 07-16-2003 04:19 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
several tales of friendliness, murderous bugs, roaming humongous wild kittens, and salsa
Well, for excellent Mexican food and exceeding friendliness, I suppose a few fire ants and killer scorpions are worth it. Does this hospitality extend to my jumping into the arms of the nearest hapless Texan the minute I am stalked by a poisonous critter?

edited to add, I don't mind snakes at all, as the local copperheads never worried me. It's the damned scorpions that freak me out

ltl/fb 07-16-2003 04:20 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I once received a lovely catalog in the mail containing stylish and ladylike holsters/handbags for your gun (pink leather armpit holster, anyone?). I believe because I once ordered a cop I know a cheerful "old-fashioned corner policeman helping a kiddie" type Christmas ornament.

Anyway, tempted as I was from an accessories standpoint, alas I do not own firearms.
The pink leather holster would look nice with a mother-of-pearl handled ladylike handgun.

purse junkie 07-16-2003 04:24 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
The pink leather holster would look nice with a mother-of-pearl handled ladylike handgun.
So true! If you're going to blow the head off some bastard, you might as well look pretty doing it.

Shape Shifter 07-16-2003 04:37 PM

agressive panhandling
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
So true! If you're going to blow the head off some bastard, you might as well look pretty doing it.
This sounds strangely erotic.


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