You know who I miss? Lady Val. I wish she'd come back. Or a tribute sock, at least.

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You were thinking, that's the problem... The Dao of Steve says that if you're thinking about her she'll pick up on it and you're dead. The way to go is not only to appear disinterested, but to BE disinterested. Works for me (either that or I'm just a psycho-magnet).

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There is no doubt about the matter. David Bowie co-wrote "China Girl," a paean to women of the Asian persuasion, and then was alleged to have been found in bed with the very ugliest of men, Mick Jagger.

Q.E.D. It merits no further debate. In other words, Oh, baby, just you shut your mouth. Shhhhhhhhhh.

Bambi Hunting
 

Only if the cameras are rolling. This is my chance for reality TV megabucks (what's that you say, stupid reality TV ideas are a dime a dozen... well, then, never mind).

Bambi Hunting
 

Fertile is fine; it kind of implies moist and inviting. The power tools thing scares me.

Silence
 

Pardon me while I call BULLSHIT. Being that my best friend is a JW (apparently JWs are allowed to have one or two godless hell-bound people on their friends list), I call total bullshit on you. First, you would not get a tattoo because JWs believe that doing so would mean marring Jehova's temple (although if you have a tat when you become a JW that is apparently okay). Second, and more importantly, JWs don't do the cross thing -- JWs believe that it was a stake (not a cross) or, in Hebrew, stauros. What do you think you gain by pretending to be a JW? I don't do religion but I certainly wouldn't fake it if I did.:mad:

Queer eye for the straight gal
 

You don't think lesbians already know how to use power tools?

Bambi Hunting
 

Of course its worse than prostitution. I never understood what's wrong with prostitution. Its a straight up services-for-cash gig. From a libertarian and logical perspective, I cannot really figure out why prostitution is illegal.

These chicks are getting nailed with paintballs. Have you ever played paintball? Those little paint pellets hurt like hell and left welts on me - and I was wearing ski pants at the time. I couldn't imagine getting tagged with one of those little slugs on exposed flesh. However, were this "hunt" found to not be endangering women, I can't figure out why it should be shut down.

That said, the chance for immediate tramatic injury here seems a lot higher than the risk of injury from fucking for cash. I imagine these chicks are either (a) uglier than sin, (b) paid ungodly sums of money or (c) high as hell the whole time and paid in dope. No one with any sense would get into that line of work unless they had a head full of dope.

S(of course, nothing topped "Bumfights")D

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david bowie was found in bed with mick jagger long before he co-wrote "china girl." in fact, i'm pretty sure from reading the book "please kill me" that david bowie was also found in bed with his co-writer of that song, iggy pop.

not that disputes your point.

ms. naughty diplomat

Toenail polish
 

I started wearing toe nail polish in 96. These Hollywood dudes are just following my fashion lead.

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More to the point, why would anyone who looks like David Bowie deign to nail either of those hideous dessicated skanks?

Silence
 

If this tipped you off rather than his preoccupation with muff-shaving, your sockdar is calibrated to the wrong frequency.

Strange that a Laydie Val was just registered as a new member. Anyone know anything about that? Can I call first to blame Penske?

Bambi Hunting
 

Because the externalities are (putatively) large. Commodifying sex in that way would affect a great number of other people in a way that they don't like.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but I think that's the intuition.

Bambi Hunting
 

The women are paid something like $2500 per game if they come out clean and $500 per game if they get hit (guess the incentive of if-I-get-hit-it-will-hurt-like-hell wasn't thought of as enough). My numbers could be off (heard this on the radio when I was still groggy one morning), but it sounds like it could be good cash if you are quick...

and stupid.

Silence
 

Being a complete priss and going door to door having atheists and heathen hell-bounders slam doors in your face all your life has got to be utterly demoralizing. Is it that surprising one could believe that they'd go a little obsessive in the search for a dollop of earthly joy?;)

Silence
 

I was gone for three hours and was trying to catch up -- I think I skimmed over the muff thing, although I don't think that JWs would be against trimming the cooch so I don't think that is an absolute indicator. The cross and tat, however, are. I don;t know why it pissed me off so much -- I guess cuz I respect my friend for her strong beliefs and evern more for putting up with my sorry ass (without trying to convert it). Fuck, she is the only person I will not swear in front of.

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I live and die by the Dao of Steve. That dude rocks!

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Ahem. I clearly said he was alleged to have indulged in the buttlove with Jagger after co-writing "China Girl." "Let's Dance" was released in 1985. The allegation about Jagger occurred on May 4, 1990 on Joan Rivers's talk show. I made no further comment about timing, because post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy I wanted to avoid in making my case.

I agree that Jagger is a skank, BTW. I lost respect for him after hearing that he ate a Mars bar out of Marianne Faithfull's vagina. People who eat junk food are skanky.

Bambi Hunting
 

If the economists were arguing it, that might be it. But I don't think Pat Robertson et al. are really worried about the externalities that prostitution imposes on society's sense of women.

Yes. Congratulations on that call! However, I deny any involvement. I quit socking.

I do miss the JRUSS-Paigow sock wars though and the supporting cast of Mario, dumpyrhodes, maudelebowski, porky pigcow et al.

Those were the days..............

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I think Mike Damone would disagree:

Mike Damone: I mean don't just walk in. You move across the room. And you don't talk to her. You use your face. You use your body. You use everything. That's what I do. I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens.

Mark Ratner: Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is gonna happen.

Mike Damone: That's the idea, Rat. That's the attitude.

Mark Ratner: The attitude?

Mike Damone: Yeah! The attitude dictates that you don't care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin'. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.

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Could you be wrong? Maybe she was giving you the number to her hair stylist or personal shopper. How did you look that day? Maybe she was trying to sell you an MP3 player - portable CD's are so 1999.

Bambi Hunting
 

Using the word "putatively" while discussing prostitution makes me giggle. I'm just sayin' . . .

Bambi Hunting
 

I understand the public interest argument, but I'm not sure that wins the day. On a coldly analytical level, the criminalizing of prostitution actually hurts a great many people. Were it to be legal, a great many otherwise unskilled and therefore unemployable people who subsist on govt benefits and lead reckless lives trading their wares on the black market would be legitimized and allowed to make a living. I believe destigmatizing the act of being a "John" may allow people who might otherwise commit sex crimes or go to black market diseased hookers to instead patronize licensed brothels which live up to rigorous health inspection standards (of course, this is easier said than done, as Thailand proves). I also think if sex was made a commodity that people would probably default to it rather than a lot of other unhealthy behaviors. I that regard, legalizing sex trade would be like legalizing marijuana - if people were satisfied with something that makes them sedate and is easily procured, chances are they won't seek more dangerous avenues of satisfaction.

S(I've always believed the chief fuel behind all untoward acts is sexual frustration - so why not remove the fuel?)D

Bambi Hunting
 

i don't think it is merely that the "hunt" could result in pain or even injury for the women is why people are objecting to this. i'm pretty sure it is because people find the entire idea of hunting other humans with guns to be objectionable - yes, they are using non-lethal weapons, but its stilll running around and shooting defenseless people with guns. the fact that the people being hunted are naked women adds in a strong element of misogyny.

personally, as long as being shot with a paintball while naked doesn't pose a high risk of personal injury, the only rational reason i could see to objecting to it is that there is something very unseemly about telling people to go out and hunt women with guns. but it just seems wrong to me to have men pay money to hunt and shoot women - even with paintballs.

ms. naughty diplomat

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Yeah, that "Side 2 of Led Zeppelin IV" advice he gave out really worked well...

Bambi Hunting
 

They're definitely being overcharged.

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the song "china girl" first appeared on iggy pop's album "the idiot" in 1977. bowie was commonly known to be bi-sexual in the early 1970s. david bowie and his wife angela bowie were well known to be involved with mick jagger in the early 1970s (for evidence see the rolling stones song "angie").

mnd

Oooof
 

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Alright, so Jan beat Lance in a time trial for the first time every (or in a while). Has he beaten him in a mountain stage ever? I mean, by more than a handful of second? The last image I have of Jan in the mountains was of Lance staring back it him a) while blasting up L'Alpe D'Huez and b) while Jan flew off a descent in the Pyrennes.

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I don't deny that I could be wrong, but under the circumstances I doubt it.

I keep myself together pretty well. I'm no metrosexual but I'm no Fab 5 fixer-upper candidate either. As for the MP3, I have one and often use it on the train. I just don't have the time lately to upload/download any new stuff.

In the end, it really doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong, because nothing's going to come of it. I'm flattered, but it's just not gonna happen...

I'll whack you with a ruler
 

silly puppy, a ruler is insufficient with sidd. you'll have to go with something stricter than that to do any good.

Oooof
 

Yeah, but dude, Jan had a serious fever on L'Alpe D"Huez this year. It seems like Jan is stronger in the time trials than in the mountain this tour, but the second to last stage is a time trial. I still believe in Lance, but damn it is a close race. And don't count out Vino. And, hello! Fucking Tyler Fucking Hamilton! I think this is going to be a kick ass ending to the Tour.

Bambi Hunting
 

so people are more upset that some idiots are paying way too much money to go out and hunt and shoot naked women with paintballs than the rather squicky fact that these idiots want to hunt and shoot naked women inthe first place :eek:

Bambi Hunting
 

Well the hunting element and the nudity is new, but Coney Island has had the "Shoot the Freak" booth for a while now. I understand it was converted to a Shoot Saddam booth recently.

Oooof
 

I agree. I was thinking of two years ago. Jan is strong, no doubt about it. But I've had the sense he has a hard time attacking in the mountains. But my memory is short.

Tyler Hamilton is immense. He's not going to win this year, but one has to wonder if might have if he hadn't broken his neck. Wow.

Bambi Hunting
 

Let's not forget who's being exploited here.

Oooof
 

Ullrich's otherwise got a pretty good record in the Pyrenees though. And while there's still some speculation that Lance is holding back deliberately trying to let the other climbers burn themselves out, I doubt he'd have left it til this late to build up a reasonable buffer. Ought to be an interesting race in the next few stages.

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I believe Bowie has repeatedly denied being bi-sexual, noting that he is, instead, tri-sexual.

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So that's how he accounts for Iggy Pop?