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ThrashersFan 07-24-2003 11:29 AM

Survivor
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You protest too much.

I'm just a set up man.

(Editted to say, or not: Congrats heat miser)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just some liberal CNN-type conspiracy against me because I watched Bill O'Reilly last night.

Oh well. Speaking of the news. The photos of the Hussein boys have been released. The quality isn't that great --

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-24-2003 11:32 AM

queer eye
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
If you shave after a shower, your hair should be softer and easier to cut.
I've never considered shaving before a shower. The rare occasions on which I shave independent of a shower I find it to be a much more uncomfortable experience, resulting in a less close shave. After a shower? Smooth, like Anthony Michael Hall in 16 Candles.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-24-2003 11:34 AM

Newsflash
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
To be fair, a lot of the reason for that feeling among some Jews (particularly secular ones, in my experience) is just trying to make up some numbers to fend off extinction after so many of us were slaughtered in the Holocaust. So it's not the typical stupid purely faith-related bigotry.

Of course, I generally agree. Way better off without some nutbag who takes religiosity (and identical religiosity, at that) as a measure of virtue.
Yeh, I've heard that story, but that can be applied to lots off peoples. I have no interest in seeing my ancestors' ethnic heritage perpetuated. I'm of no tribe, no religion, no offical group. The way I see it, the chief impediment to man's progression twoard a better life for everyone is tribalism/ethnicism/religious exclusivity. In the end, those who foolishly cling to traditions which differntiate themselves from others will find themselves alone. The melting pot is only going to get more and more mixed - embrace change or be a dinosaur.

Hell, change is nice. Have members of other faiths/ethnicity marry into my family would bring new views, foods, social customs, etc. I like to try new shit. Life's too fucking short to be Archie Bunker.

ThrashersFan 07-24-2003 11:35 AM

Cybersex
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
So you are saying that you sometimes agree with him? Very enlightening. Do you agree that he should be allowed to go to a gay bathhouse?
What the hell would I care if he went to a gay bathhouse --- from what I have seen he is not a gay-basher but rather doesn't think that the definition of marriage should be changed to include same-sex marriage although he does believe that there should be marriage-like legal recognition of gay unions. I think he is confused on that because I don't see the big difference other than not wanting to call it "marriage." There are some topics where he makes valid points and others with which I vehemently disagree with him. He has some good guests on (when he lets them speak, that is).

Now I must stop before I get banished to the PB where I will fit in even less than I do here.

Bad_Rich_Chic 07-24-2003 11:36 AM

queer eye
 
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Originally posted by drhathaway
But wouldn't being wet and soft mean that your skin has absorbed the water and is thus somewhat puffed up and you won't get as close a shave?
Your skin takes longer to puff up from water than the hair does to get soft, so not necessarily. But, if one is susceptible to ingrown hairs, you don't want a really close shave, anyway, it just makes it worse.

I am getting the Mr. some of that Zirh shaving oil, though. I've heard a number of times that, for people with really coarse curly beards and fragile skin, preparing the skin with oil is the only way to go.

drhathaway 07-24-2003 11:37 AM

queer eye
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
After a shower? Smooth, like Anthony Michael Hall in 16 Candles.
Well there you go. More proof I should keep my fingers off the keyboard. Like I said, I know nothing about shaving.

Now, if you want to talk about EmJoy Gold, I'm in.

Speaking of Anthony Michael Hall, I feel bad for the guy. I'm watching Dead Zone the other night where he's supposed to be having passionate sex with a woman and all I can see is him in the backseat of of Jake's convertible with his headgear on. I wonder if he'll ever get away from his John Hughes image.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 11:38 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MisterEbola
Is there something illegal about disagreeing with Mr. O'Reilley? Or is everybody required to tow the same line whereever they may be?
(You may want to reword, I think you meant agree)

Of course people are free to agree with him. Take his word as gospel if you want. I've known a few who do. I just don't hang around with them much. The whole social intolerance thing doesn't work well for me.

Actually lately it comes up more on the right than the left, but I'm sure it is possible on both sides to have mouthpieces who convince people of things just because they say it with conviction. The Rush Limbaugh effect.

What the hell, I'll say it -- find someone on the left who has followers like that. James Carville? No - he totally says wackadoo way out there things that most rational people don't agree with. Michael Moore? You must be joking. I think the closest is Al Franken but he will never have the following that the right-wing conservative pontificators have. Why do you think that is?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-24-2003 11:38 AM

queer eye
 
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I am getting the Mr. some of that Zirh shaving oil, though. I've heard a number of times that, for people with really coarse curly beards and fragile skin, preparing the skin with oil is the only way to go.
I'm told cocoa butter is what the pros (i.e., barbers) use. But I've never had enough of a beard to get a shave with my haircut.

Penske_Account 07-24-2003 11:40 AM

protein bars
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Well they sure as shit don't ingest GU at mile 19.

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I call bullshit. I know plenty of elite athletes who use that stuff during races. I know some who live on the stuff.

Doesn't mean it tastes good, but its a quick lo-bulk method of supplying the body energy.

sebastian_dangerfield 07-24-2003 11:40 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I find him amusing. I can't say that I always agree with him, but his books were enlightening and some of his guests are funny (but I don't think they mean to be).

Bill replays at 11pm eastern. When the game is over I like to have something on the TV while I finish my nightly beers and FoxNews Channel hooked me during the shock and awe phase of that little squirmish in Iraq. Just cuz I live in its shadow doesn't mean that I have to partake of the bullshit that streams from CNN.


Yellow shit? What are you feeding your pussies?
I used to find O'Reilly interesting in the same way I can't not take a peak at a car wreck. And he is smarter than that imbecile Hannity, who's interview techniques are clearly patterned on Joseph McCarthy. However, O'Reilly has been reading his press and feels himself infallible lately - thus he's getting sloppy and ham-fisted. Where he used to do his homework, he now just relies on bluster. He's a Limbaugh.

CNN is awful. Aaron Brown might be the most boring man on TV.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 11:40 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
What the hell would I care if he went to a gay bathhouse --- from what I have seen he is not a gay-basher but rather doesn't think that the definition of marriage should be changed to include same-sex marriage although he does believe that there should be marriage-like legal recognition of gay unions. I think he is confused on that because I don't see the big difference other than not wanting to call it "marriage." There are some topics where he makes valid points and others with which I vehemently disagree with him. He has some good guests on (when he lets them speak, that is).

Now I must stop before I get banished to the PB where I will fit in even less than I do here.
The gay bathhouse thing was a joke based on his interview with Dan Savage. PLF will be mad at me for clarifying this, but c'est la vie.

ms. naughty diplomat 07-24-2003 11:41 AM

Cybersex
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Okay, so there was this PhD chick on O'Reilly last night who said that cybersex is cheating. Now, I have never understood how one gets off by typing things like "I have my mouth on your cock" to one another but to each his/her own I suppose and I can't see where it is cheating any more than having a crush on CZ-J or something. Oddly enough, the PhD chick seemed to be implying that even having a thought about sex not involving your mate was tantamount to cheating. This stuff goes beyond the "is a blow-job sex" debate and into a really weird place. I wonder if she would still consider it cheating if it turned out that a dude's cybersex partner was really a 50 year old fat bald guy rather than the "Marilyn Monroe look-alike" he thought he as chatting with. Does anyone here agree with the PhD chick?
in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. personally, this seems like kind of an idiotic strategy if taken literally for a religion to adopt - because if you have already sinned and committed adultry in your heart by lusting after someone, you might as well have sex with them, but that is what the bible said so many fundamentalist christians believe that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. they kind of ignore the context that it was when Jesus stopped the pharasies from stoning a woman to death for adultry by saying "let he who is without this sin, cast the first stone" so that the lust in your heart thing was really about not judging other people not literally that lusting in your heart equals adultry.

where exactly did she get her ph.d? i'm guessing one of those fundamentalist christian universities like bob jones university or liberty university? because her position as you describe it is really a fundamentalist christian position. almost anyone other than a fundamentalist chirstian sees a real difference between merely lusting after someone and having sex with them.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 07-24-2003 11:42 AM

queer eye
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I saw two episodes last night (thank you Tivo!) and SO and I are hooked. I expected to hate Carson (the over the top one) but he had some of the best lines! Also the one who only seems to give shavign tips is my unattainable (only bc he is gay of course) crush (tho SO wonders whether his "shave AFTER the shower" mantra is correct).

That meta annoying jerk from the American What Not to Wear should tune into this show to see how it is done. These dudes rock! Much like the cool, trendy gay boys I am used to here in Dallas.

The wife of the overweight LI dad was very cute and she didn't seem to get dissed at all by the boys (vs. blond skin-tight clothes GF in the other one).
The best episode so far is the episode with Butch, the set builder/artist who looks like an axe murderer before they work on him. Nice guy, and seems like the change did him the most good.

As for shaving after showering, my informal test of this for the last two weeks seems to indicate that this is the way to go. Face is smoother and I'm not as hairy late in the day. Also picked up an after shave gel I liked and it helps out too.

Bad_Rich_Chic 07-24-2003 11:43 AM

queer eye
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I'm told cocoa butter is what the pros (i.e., barbers) use. But I've never had enough of a beard to get a shave with my haircut.
A straight razor is what they use, actually. Cocoa butter clogs multi-bladed razors. Much the same effect otherwise, I'd imagine.

purse junkie 07-24-2003 11:44 AM

queer eye
 
Quote:

Originally posted by drhathaway
Speaking of Anthony Michael Hall, I feel bad for the guy. I'm watching Dead Zone the other night where he's supposed to be having passionate sex with a woman and all I can see is him in the backseat of of Jake's convertible with his headgear on. I wonder if he'll ever get away from his John Hughes image.
I don't think he ought to. The man has not aged well. He was much better off as a spindly geek.

John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!

greatwhitenorthchick 07-24-2003 11:46 AM

Cybersex
 
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Aaron Brown might be the most boring man on TV.
He's like #6 on the list of everyday things that annoy me so much I hate them. He's after Citibank, but ahead of Andy Pettitte and his special relationship with God (dated, but still annoying).

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-24-2003 11:47 AM

protein bars
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I call bullshit. I know plenty of elite athletes who use that stuff during races. I know some who live on the stuff.

Doesn't mean it tastes good, but its a quick lo-bulk method of supplying the body energy.
I'm talking true elites, not your shit sub-3 marathoners (which I am). I'm slow and so is everyone else not breaking 2:40. And those going sub 2:40 are still just good club runners. Not really that fast. I'm talking sub-2:20 guys and sub 2:45 women. In fact, most of the sub-3 guys I know gave up gels well before they qualified for Boston. Paula Radcliffe, KK, Geb, etc. - they mostly only drink their own mixture of sport's drink or water during the race.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 07-24-2003 11:50 AM

queer eye
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie

John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!
Unfortunately the same can't be said for his sister Joan. As the Cusacks are from Chicago, Joan is currently all over the TV hawking a new cellular phone company in the area... She is bug-eyed, weird looking and has an annoying voice.

drhathaway 07-24-2003 11:50 AM

queer eye
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I don't think he ought to. The man has not aged well. He was much better off as a spindly geek.
Which is what makes him believable as a guy who was in a horrific accident and spent six years in a coma. I imagine that most of us wouldn't come out of something like that looking too good.

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John Cusack, however, has improved immeasurably. What a transformation!
See he looks the exact same to me - had a crush on him then, have a crush on him now. Except in America's Sweethearts or whatever that thing was. I couldn't get past the show premise to see if I was still commiting adultry in my heart.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 11:50 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. personally, this seems like kind of an idiotic strategy if taken literally for a religion to adopt - because if you have already sinned and committed adultry in your heart by lusting after someone, you might as well have sex with them, but that is what the bible said so many fundamentalist christians believe that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart. they kind of ignore the context that it was when Jesus stopped the pharasies from stoning a woman to death for adultry by saying "let he who is without this sin, cast the first stone" so that the lust in your heart thing was really about not judging other people not literally that lusting in your heart equals adultry.

I won't get into what is or is not adultery, because I care little about that. I do think that if someone is going outside of their relationship for sexual fulfillment (unless it is sanctioned by the other person in the relationship and it somehow enhances something within the relationship - to each his own), then that is a big red flag that there is something wrong in the relationship. If John is sitting up at night talking to some cyberwoman to get his rocks off while Sally sleeps in the other room, they aren't doing things right for their mutual long term happiness.

purse junkie 07-24-2003 11:50 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
almost anyone other than a fundamentalist chirstian sees a real difference between merely lusting after someone and having sex with them.
The simple test to use is to ask yourself whether your partner would go bullshit if you mentioned it to them, or vice versa. Would he mind if you told him you'd been doing a graphic PM play-by-play with some shmo? Would you mind hearing the same thing from your SO? If no, no problem. If yes, cut it out.

And I always thought it was hilarious that Jimmy Carter (whom I adore) did his penitential "lusting in my heart" thing interview with Playboy magazine--which husbands everywhere, of course, read only for the articles.

Who's Your Puft Daddy? 07-24-2003 11:51 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
in the bible it says that if you lust after someone you commit adultry in your heart.
All the more reason to never get married, I suppose, thereby avoiding the adultery problem altogether.

My guess is that the PhD got her degree from whichever correspondence 'college' Sally Struthers pitches on TV.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 11:52 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
He's like #6 on the list of everyday things that annoy me so much I hate them. He's after Citibank, but ahead of Andy Pettitte and his special relationship with God (dated, but still annoying).
Even worse (as EO and I have discussed before) is Bill Hemmer. What a total waste of space. He may actually be a cyborg anchor man. A caricature of all bad anchor traits rolled into one vacuous man.

drhathaway 07-24-2003 11:53 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I do think that if someone is going outside of their relationship for sexual fulfillment (unless it is sanctioned by the other person in the relationship and it somehow enhances something within the relationship - to each his own), then that is a big red flag that there is something wrong in the relationship. If John is sitting up at night talking to some cyberwoman to get his rocks off while Sally sleeps in the other room, they aren't doing things right for their mutual long term happiness.
What if you're just taking care of your own business by yourself and not involving third parties? You're looking outside your partner for some sexual fulfillment, but not to someone else. Would that still be a red flag?

And if it is, does anyone want to buy a used, but still working, "massager"?

purse junkie 07-24-2003 11:54 AM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Who's Your Puft Daddy?
All the more reason to never get married, I suppose, thereby avoiding the adultery problem altogether.

My guess is that the PhD got her degree from whichever correspondence 'college' Sally Struthers pitches on TV.
Hey, can you please consider changing your avatar before I start having screaming nightmares about murderous dinner-roll mascots?

Many thanks.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2003 12:01 PM

Things we hold sacred
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Hey, can you please consider changing your avatar before I start having screaming nightmares about murderous dinner-roll mascots?

Many thanks.
Didn't we just do this with signature lines?

I may not agree with his avatar, but I will fight to the end for his right to use it.

MisterEbola 07-24-2003 12:02 PM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
(You may want to reword, I think you meant agree)

What the hell, I'll say it -- find someone on the left who has followers like that. James Carville? No - he totally says wackadoo way out there things that most rational people don't agree with. Michael Moore? You must be joking. I think the closest is Al Franken but he will never have the following that the right-wing conservative pontificators have. Why do you think that is?
I think there are plenty of folks on the left who have followers. Phil Donahue is an unabashed liberal with a large following. MSNBC simply couldn't stand dealing with him any further.

Arianna Huffington is another that comes to mind.

James Carville is actually quite humerous in person. He lives nearby. I actually got a major kick out of him during the 2002 election when, on CNN, he put a garbage can over his head to display his disgust with the election results.

Anyhow, this is PB stuff and I'll let the trolls there carry on.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 12:02 PM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by drhathaway
What if you're just taking care of your own business by yourself and not involving third parties? You're looking outside your partner for some sexual fulfillment, but not to someone else. Would that still be a red flag?

And if it is, does anyone want to buy a used, but still working, "massager"?
No. At least I hope not. What I'm really talking about is marriages in which one person is looking outside for their excitement because it is missing in the marriage. It doesn't even have to be sexual. Like if one person always needs to have outside interests to flirt with because they lack interest in the person on the other side of the bed. Conducting mental affairs even if there is no action. And not just lusting after Pamela Anderson or Brad Pitt.

purse junkie 07-24-2003 12:04 PM

Things we hold sacred
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Didn't we just do this with signature lines?

I may not agree with his avatar, but I will fight to the end for his right to use it.
That's why I said "please consider." If he doesn't, I wish him a life full of happiness. I just wish I could call him and yell at him at 3 in the morning when I wake up flipping out.

Ah, the benefits of anonymity! ;)

Who's Your Puft Daddy? 07-24-2003 12:05 PM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Hey, can you please consider changing your avatar before I start having screaming nightmares about murderous dinner-roll mascots?

Many thanks.
Just because I'm in an unusually good mood, why not. You can have the happy Mister Stay-Puft instead of the "I'm taking out New York and you can't stop me" version. At least until I change my mind.

And it's marshmallows, not dinner rolls.

WhY (I'm a lawyer so I'm almost always pissed off) PD

purse junkie 07-24-2003 12:08 PM

Cybersex
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Who's Your Puft Daddy?
Just because I'm in an unusually good mood, why not. You can have the happy Mister Stay-Puft instead of the "I'm taking out New York and you can't stop me" version. At least until I change my mind.

And it's marshmallows, not dinner rolls.

WhY (I'm a lawyer so I'm almost always pissed off) PD
Thanks WhYPD. That was very kind.

I would have felt even worse having bad dreams about something as good as marshmallows.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 07-24-2003 12:10 PM

I now see what Spike Lee was fighting for
 
"August 11 is Spike TV Day. Men all across this great land should feel empowered to leave the toilet seat up!"

Yahoo article

Is this like a 24-hour version of The Man Show?

E/O, can we add this to the board calendar? I don't want to leave a single seat down that day . . .

MisterEbola 07-24-2003 12:14 PM

I now see what Spike Lee was fighting for
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
"August 11 is Spike TV Day. Men all across this great land should feel empowered to leave the toilet seat up!"

Yahoo article

Is this like a 24-hour version of The Man Show?

E/O, can we add this to the board calendar? I don't want to leave a single seat down that day . . .
It sounds and looks perfectly awful. I clicked across TNN the other day and it looks like they're warming up to the full-blown release. Something Japanese girls in small bathing suits - then dressed into huge, overstuffed outfits trying to engage in a game of dodgeball.

I guess they want to balance out Lifetime which is pathetic beyond words sometimes.

notcasesensitive 07-24-2003 12:19 PM

crossing this off my list of 5 places in history I would ever want to visit
 
Odd Todd done told me about the ancient Mayans today and he provided this lovely link --

http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schoo.../relegion.html

So now tongue-spliiting and those giant ear extender things don't seem so weird, do they?

dealtoy 07-24-2003 12:26 PM

protein bars
 
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
whey protein boosts antioxidant production in people with autoimmune disorders. The test subjects were AIDS patients. I don't have AIDS, but I have an autoimmune disorder called Idiopathic Thrombocytopenic purpura. I'm in the very early stages and have been for years and could stay that way my whole life, but I'm always looking for ways to get better. Of course, there's no way you could have known any of this, and I agree, food is often the best source.
What about blueberries? They are supposed to be packed with anti-oxidants.

dealtoy 07-24-2003 12:30 PM

shave after shower?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
If you shave after a shower, your hair should be softer and easier to cut.
Being wet and soft reduces the chance that you'll suffer from razor bumps or ingrown hairs.
I used to always shave after shower, but I recently bought Braun's newest electric razor and they say to shave dry and suggest that you avoid skin irritation. They seem to be right for me (at least with respect to electric razors).

Pretty Little Flower 07-24-2003 12:32 PM

protein bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
ALL of this shit is a scam. Protein bars, Cliff bars, Powerbars, GU (for distance athletes). All bullshit. You can get what these things give you NATURALLY, i.e., in fruits, vegetables, tuna, soy, eggs, milk, etc., and your body will digest them better. How much protein does everyone think we need? Eat some eggs. The fat WILL NOT KILL YOU. Has no one else noticed the correlation b/w the fatness of the U.S. and the availability of low-fat foods? We need fat. I used to eat Cliff bars and take GU for marathon training. And then I woke up, realized it tastes like shit, and did some research to see what the elite athletes do. Well they sure as shit don't ingest GU at mile 19.
Is this really true? I know some pretty serious bikers who use Power Gels during races. I mean, I understand your point - they are not a substitute for real food - but energy gels are easy to digest, give you quick energy, and do not upset your stomach. And try eating a banana (or a tuna sandwich) in the middle of a 40 mile mountain bike race. Or, right before a race, for that matter. Welcome to the Vomit-dome.

Double-caffeinated Tangerine Power Gel is my gel of choice. Tastes like shit, but it's not like I am looking for a nice gourmet meal mid-race.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2003 12:33 PM

Things we hold sacred
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
That's why I said "please consider." If he doesn't, I wish him a life full of happiness. I just wish I could call him and yell at him at 3 in the morning when I wake up flipping out.

Ah, the benefits of anonymity! ;)
Right you are. "Please" really is a magic word, aye?

Pleasant dreams.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 07-24-2003 12:38 PM

protein bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Is this really true? I know some pretty serious bikers who use Power Gels during races. I mean, I understand your point - they are not a substitute for real food - but energy gels are easy to digest, give you quick energy, and do not upset your stomach. And try eating a banana (or a tuna sandwich) in the middle of a 40 mile mountain bike race. Or, right before a race, for that matter. Welcome to the Vomit-dome.

Double-caffeinated Tangerine Power Gel is my gel of choice. Tastes like shit, but it's not like I am looking for a nice gourmet meal mid-race.
Well, from what you and E/O have said, cyclists DO use the gels. I stand corrected. Although my Buddy who does Ironmans carries hamburgers for the bike ride. Not gels. He's fast, but he's not elite. Personally, I could much more easily eat a banana at mile 19 than some GU. For me, GU is drive-heave-city.

Penske_Account 07-24-2003 12:42 PM

protein bars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I'm talking true elites, not your shit sub-3 marathoners (which I am).
So am I. Although the subset of truly "elite" runners that I know is smaller than the subset of truly "elite" bikers, triathletes, and swimmers, but elite athletes who use energy food is not limited to elite runners.

Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
In fact, most of the sub-3 guys I know gave up gels well before they qualified for Boston. Paula Radcliffe, KK, Geb, etc. - they mostly only drink their own mixture of sport's drink or water during the race.
Your own mixture is the same thing just in a different form. They are using someone else's product and tailoring it to what they have perceived their needs are, but the foundation is still someone else's gel, bar, powder, liquid product. Gels, bars, powder, liquids are just different forms of the same thing, an energy source that is not bulky that you can take during competition. Hell, I' m not elite elite and I have my own "supersecret" formulation combining gels, powders and water that took about dozen marathons and 4 IMs to perfect.


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