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Tyrone Slothrop 10-05-2016 01:40 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502866)
From what I could see there was near unanimity in giving the night to Pence on style points - he was just less annoying than Kaine - but this next week to Kaine on substance and set up. I think that's right, but we'll see as it plays out.

But think of what this means: last night was Pence's try-out for leadership of the conservative core of the Republican Party in a post-Trump world, and he did well - very well - by showing them that he could deny reality with a straight face. That is what they have come to; it is what they want.

Pence and Kaine both won. Pence was trying to come across well, and Kaine was trying to attack Trump.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-05-2016 04:17 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502868)
It's not false equivalence to assert denying facts with a straight face is a job requirement of every politician, from school board hack to POTUS.

I've always considered denying facts to be a real political liability. The key is to turn something into an opinion before denying it, so it can be argued (see, global warming, creationism). An old political friend of mine was once up for a key committee chair, and went in to talk to the Senate President about it. Prez asked him whether the world was round or flat - he responded by asking what the Prez thought, noting he could argue either way. See, that's opinion to the careful politician.

It's one thing to deny global warming or adhere to creationism, flat earth theory, or hollow earth theory. It is another to deny that X said Y when there is a tape of X saying Y. That's a political liability. The proper answer would have been "I don't know", "I didn't hear", "he may have misspoken" or "Whatever was said X long ago, our position today is ...."

SEC_Chick 10-05-2016 04:30 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502872)
The proper answer would have been "I don't know", "I didn't hear", "he may have misspoken" or "Whatever was said X long ago, our position today is ...."

Or maybe: It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

Not Bob 10-05-2016 09:13 PM

And they all play on the golf course.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502873)
Or maybe: It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

Well-played, miss; I said well-played.

Governor Pence is a judgmental, humorless man. He refused to pardon a man who is innocent because, I guess, he doesn't want to appear soft on crime. Let's not even mention the whole funerals for miscarriages or aborted fetuses law (spree -- National Review (!) article about the "Periods for Pence" movement). The dude is, as Icky mentions every so often, out there.

For me (as @dick_nixon put it), Mike Pence is like the "old monsignor who lets the bum sleep on the kitchen floor, but just for a night."

Not Bob 10-05-2016 10:31 PM

Lawyers dwell on small details since daddy had to lie.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502863)
To fuck w him.

Perhaps I am whiffing, but I read young Adder's question as "why is your daughter considering law school?"

Why, Bilmore, why? (mostly kidding)

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-06-2016 10:23 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502873)
Or maybe: It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

By the time this is done, he will be debating whether that would have been a better answer.

I mean, this is a guy accustomed to selling the silliest anti-science snake oil. Think about that. Trump is harder to defend than creationism (which Pence advocates teaching in public schools).

Adder 10-06-2016 10:33 AM

Re: And they all play on the golf course.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502874)
Governor Pence is a judgmental, humorless man. He refused to pardon a man who is innocent because, I guess, he doesn't want to appear soft on crime. Let's not even mention the whole funerals for miscarriages or aborted fetuses law (spree -- National Review (!) article about the "Periods for Pence" movement). The dude is, as Icky mentions every so often, out there.

For me (as @dick_nixon put it), Mike Pence is like the "old monsignor who lets the bum sleep on the kitchen floor, but just for a night."

Which kind of highlights how little of the VP debate was about Pence.

SEC_Chick 10-06-2016 01:02 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
I almost pity Ted Cruz.


https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status...399887360?s=03

SEC_Chick 10-07-2016 01:05 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
I see how some people here might be interested in this shirt:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...hirts-n2228919

http://media.townhall.com/townhall/r...016/10/7/4.png

Pretty Little Flower 10-07-2016 04:50 PM

Re: Lawyers dwell on small details since daddy had to lie.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502876)
Why, Bilmore, why?

I invented that! At least I am pretty sure I did. No Daily Doses this week. :( :( :( But I got a nice old soul/R&B/funk cut for the weekend. Andre Williams. Humpin, Bumpin, and Thumpin. May you accomplish all three this weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnULA3_sgQ

And just for fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73WAXfhiBu8

Hank Chinaski 10-07-2016 05:14 PM

Re: Lawyers dwell on small details since daddy had to lie.
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 502882)
I invented that! At least I am pretty sure I did.

my friend Paigow invented inventing things to post, but thanks for playin!

SEC_Chick 10-08-2016 11:47 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lDJmwmF-Y...ssy%2Bflag.jpg

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-09-2016 12:15 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502884)

You can't spell "GrOPe" without GOP.

This is the natural outcome of building the party off the radio-talk-show base; I mean, come on, this campaign is just about the Rush Limbaugh/Howard Stern crowd finally getting their candidate; they've had them on the local level all along, advocating to do things like change the definition of rape to only include "forcible" rape. This shit wasn't "entertaining" back then and ain't entertaining now.

This party has made its bed. Just don't make any of the rest of us lie in it.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-09-2016 12:46 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I don't even have to try to be amused!
 
Ted Cruz's tweet today:

NBC had tape 11 yrs. Apprentice producer says they have more & worse. So why not release in 2015? In March? Why wait till October? #MSMBias

Hank Chinaski 10-09-2016 02:50 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502886)
You can't spell "GrOPe" without GOP.

This is the natural outcome of building the party off the radio-talk-show base; I mean, come on, this campaign is just about the Rush Limbaugh/Howard Stern crowd finally getting their candidate; they've had them on the local level all along, advocating to do things like change the definition of rape to only include "forcible" rape. This shit wasn't "entertaining" back then and ain't entertaining now.

This party has made its bed. Just don't make any of the rest of us lie in it.

Howard has backed Hillary from the start, and spoke of Trump as a goof, a friend but a goof. But thanks for playin!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-09-2016 04:02 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502888)
Howard has backed Hillary from the start, and spoke of Trump as a goof, a friend but a goof. But thanks for playin!

Ironically, he may end up as one of her most valuable supporters.

Doesn't change the fact that his show has played a role in this disgustingness for a long time.

Hank Chinaski 10-09-2016 04:29 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502890)
Ironically, he may end up as one of her most valuable supporters.

Doesn't change the fact that his show has played a role in this disgustingness for a long time.

Since you don't listen you don't know what you're talking about, but that's hardly a reason to slow any of you lot down. Rave on!!

Tyrone Slothrop 10-10-2016 03:42 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Trump is running his campaign like a real estate deal.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2016 07:11 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 502892)

My god, was that awesome. Exactly.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2016 07:15 PM

Re: And they all play on the golf course.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 502874)
Well-played, miss; I said well-played.

Governor Pence is a judgmental, humorless man. He refused to pardon a man who is innocent because, I guess, he doesn't want to appear soft on crime. Let's not even mention the whole funerals for miscarriages or aborted fetuses law (spree -- National Review (!) article about the "Periods for Pence" movement). The dude is, as Icky mentions every so often, out there.

For me (as @dick_nixon put it), Mike Pence is like the "old monsignor who lets the bum sleep on the kitchen floor, but just for a night."

Pence is a fucking creep who might actually succeed at some of his objectives. I'd be more comfortable with Trump in charge than that guy on top of the ticket.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2016 07:27 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502890)
Ironically, he may end up as one of her most valuable supporters.

Doesn't change the fact that his show has played a role in this disgustingness for a long time.

Everything is fair game for jokes. Everything.

Howard is a bedrock reminder of our right to tell those who are easily offended to turn the channel and mind their own business.

I think the Trump comments are bizarre, and funny in a kind of "what a train wreck" respect. The man has a problem with his first language, and basic anatomy... Sincerely, even during the most coarse male banter about attractive women, I've never heard, "grab her pussy." Nor has any male here, I'm certain. Were someone to say that, the only response I could muster would be, "What? Did you just say you'd grab a girl by her pussy? How much have you had to drink? You're getting an Uber, right?"

There's something seriously busted in the basal circuits of that cat's brain.

Pretty Little Flower 10-10-2016 07:38 PM

Re: And they all play on the golf course.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 502894)
Pence is a fucking creep who might actually succeed at some of his objectives. I'd be more comfortable with Trump in charge than that guy on top of the ticket.

The fact that this campaign is still moving forward is a sign of how far gone we are. It will be almost impossible for future campaigns to lower the bar. But fuck it, I'm a star and I'm gonna grab me some fucking pussy. Fucking bitches will let me do it! Hey bitches, get your pussies over here within grabbing range. I'm too tired to go on chasing after your pussies. Get that moist pink pussy within arm's range for me. Is there anything this Douchebag-In-Chief could say that would actually cause people to say that, like, they're not so comfortable supporting him any more? If he bragged that when he dressed like a priest, he could grab little boys' dicks, because they would let him and were scared of God? If he said he used to ass-rape dogs because they were tighter? No? Cats, maybe? Nope, fucking prick-faces like the supreme fucking asshole from Arizona would still support him lest Hillary get elected and they start ripping fetuses apart limb from limb. Thank you, Donald, for making me have to explain to my eleven year old daughter that famous people and authority figures are not allowed to sexually assault her vagina. But fuck you for actually making me have some tiny sliver of respect for Paul Ryan. Jesus fucking fuck. Here is today's post-debate Daily Dose. Funkadelic's "Super Stupid" from the album Maggot Brain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVHrvx-Ua68

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2016 10:20 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 502892)

I'm asking RT to make me the mod here and if it happens you are going to LT jail!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-11-2016 10:07 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Who took the shackles off!?!?

ThurgreedMarshall 10-11-2016 10:37 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502861)
New theory: Trump knew tax scams and all his other crimes would come out and he would get an effective pardon. Hillary cannot prosecute.


Edit- my daughter, who is considering law school, suggests Obama pardon Trump a week before the election.

This theory is a hard sell after he outright threatened to jail Hillary if elected.

TM

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2016 12:56 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 502899)
This theory is a hard sell after he outright threatened to jail Hillary if elected.

TM

Actually doesn't all the blow back about how wrong that was make it even less likely she'd prosecute?

SEC_Chick 10-11-2016 01:23 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
So I forget who it was, Thurgreed maybe, who was so certain that despite me talking a big game against Trump I would vote for him anyway, that needless to say, I am not voting Trump. I would have voted Libertarian if the Libertarians had nominated someone who is actually Libertarian, but I can't bring myself to vote Johnson/Weld either. I looked at the Constitution Party too, and unfortunately they have some ideas that are totally crackpot in their platform, even by my standards.

So, for anyone waiting on pins and needles, Evan McMullin has qualified as a write-in candidate in Texas, so that's the only thing I can do in good conscience. I hope I can figure out how to actually do a write in on the machine, since this will only be my second time not voting straight party, and my vote for Nader was absentee, IIRC. I'm going to vote on the first day of early voting, as always, and then hope that I can be in a coma or something until 2020.

I no longer consider myself to be R at all, so I will have to do a bit of work on the down ballot races as well to determine the best candidate.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2016 03:14 PM

Re: And they all play on the golf course.
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 502896)
The fact that this campaign is still moving forward is a sign of how far gone we are. It will be almost impossible for future campaigns to lower the bar.

Hopefully one takeaway will be that running a la Trump is a way to get totally creamed. It really does seem that he feeds off the reaction he gets at his rallies, and that he is completely uninterested in or incapable of trying to modulate his message (or "pivot") to get 50% +1 of the electorate.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2016 03:14 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502898)
Who took the shackles off!?!?

What were the shackles keeping him from doing?

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2016 03:16 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502901)
I no longer consider myself to be R at all, so I will have to do a bit of work on the down ballot races as well to determine the best candidate.

Seems like the (few) people who still consider themselves dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are often the most out of step with the GOP.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-11-2016 04:26 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502901)
So I forget who it was, Thurgreed maybe, who was so certain that despite me talking a big game against Trump I would vote for him anyway, that needless to say, I am not voting Trump. I would have voted Libertarian if the Libertarians had nominated someone who is actually Libertarian, but I can't bring myself to vote Johnson/Weld either. I looked at the Constitution Party too, and unfortunately they have some ideas that are totally crackpot in their platform, even by my standards.

So, for anyone waiting on pins and needles, Evan McMullin has qualified as a write-in candidate in Texas, so that's the only thing I can do in good conscience. I hope I can figure out how to actually do a write in on the machine, since this will only be my second time not voting straight party, and my vote for Nader was absentee, IIRC. I'm going to vote on the first day of early voting, as always, and then hope that I can be in a coma or something until 2020.

I no longer consider myself to be R at all, so I will have to do a bit of work on the down ballot races as well to determine the best candidate.

I don't know if it was me, but until this last week I did believe most of the traditional Rs saying they wouldn't support trump would indeed "come around". I was wrong.

Now I just want some of ya'all to form a new Whig Party. Tyler Too!

ThurgreedMarshall 10-11-2016 04:28 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502901)
So I forget who it was, Thurgreed maybe, who was so certain that despite me talking a big game against Trump I would vote for him anyway, that needless to say, I am not voting Trump.

Wasn't me.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 10-11-2016 05:31 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 502903)
What were the shackles keeping him from doing?

I look forward to the new, unfettered Freedom Trump. It's time we stop tip-toeing about this election and really blow some shit up around here.

Here is some nice obscure old funk for your ailing souls. Rasputin's Stash with "Dookey Shoe" for the Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_IZXLPBvMY

SEC_Chick 10-11-2016 05:52 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 502906)
Wasn't me.

TM

Now that I think about it, I think it was Sidd.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2016 08:06 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
This piece about the way Howard Stern played with Trump is pure genius.

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2016 11:19 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 502914)

I'm not sure "tricking him" is accurate. He had conversations with a guy that were real, but they were before the guy realized he might run for office.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-12-2016 12:45 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 502915)
I'm not sure "tricking him" is accurate. He had conversations with a guy that were real, but they were before the guy realized he might run for office.

According to my browser, the word "trick" doesn't appear in that article. YMMV.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-12-2016 09:24 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502913)
Now that I think about it, I think it was Sidd.

So your Evan McMullin is in striking distance in Utah, and just might take the state. And we all know, as goes Utah, so goes Idaho....

Boy, is this going to screw up Nate Silver's modeling.

Adder 10-12-2016 10:39 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 502901)
I no longer consider myself to be R at all, so I will have to do a bit of work on the down ballot races as well to determine the best candidate.

Do you get the lucky opportunity to vote for or against the lovely guy who said he'd "think about" not voting for Trump is tape emerged of Trumpy saying, "I like to rape women"?

SEC_Chick 10-12-2016 11:38 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 502917)
So your Evan McMullin is in striking distance in Utah, and just might take the state. And we all know, as goes Utah, so goes Idaho....

Boy, is this going to screw up Nate Silver's modeling.

And before this, there was a possibility that NM going Johnson could have thrown the election to the House, which I would have enjoyed if only as a matter of interest to a person with a political science degree. I was working overtime on my NM people to help make that happen.

But that was a couple weeks ago when the national polling was tight. With Hillary up double digits, I think she'll take the electoral college pretty easily.

I would still love to see it go to the House, though.


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