Question for medical (and not) types
 

And yet, you feel compelled to mention your accident and the fact that it makes exercise difficult.

"Hey, I have allergies and bad genes, and those really make it hard for me to lose weight, but I don't blame those for my weight problem! Really!!!"

Physician, heal thyself.

And A Real Gobbler
 

I would tell you to eat me, but apparently that's been done.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

No, it's just all those fat people are really fuckin' lazy:poke:

Question for medical (and not) types
 

I was talking about smug, self-satisfied ass clowns.*


*I should note that although TM is smug, he is seldom satisfied, with himself or otherwise, and he is only rarely an ass clown.

edited to add the asterisk and also to note that maybe Thurgreed is an ass clown sometimes because he is provoked by degenerates, who are neither lazy nor undisciplined.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

Look, guys, let's not put down the smug and self-satisfied. Without them, we'd have neither a board nor a profession.

G3 (smug but not fully satisfied)

Question for medical (and not) types
 

Translation: I'm hungry.

TM

Question for medical (and not) types
 

I only mentioned it to make a point that I could blame somebody if I wanted to but I don't. Look, I have watched my father struggle with his weight for my entire life -- he has had years of success and years where he loses his determination rather than weight (something that he has feely admitted) and even years of very scary medical issues resulting, at least in part, from his weight issues. I have also watched my sister eat bad foods, drink too much beer and sit around a lot -- she is sensitive about her weight but won't do anything about it because she would rather insist that she is that way because she inherited our father's genes. Most overweight or out of shape people that I know will complain about their "love handles" while eating Ho-Hos. I feel for people who struggle with weight -- like my father -- because it certainly cannot be easy to resist tasty foods and get into exercising, but I don't feel bad for people who complain about their weight or make snide remarks about people who are not overweight but who won't do anything about it or who insist that it is someone else's fault that they can't stop eating Ho-Hos. My assistant is overweight -- she freely admits that she is that way because she loves food and doesn't want to work out any more than is necessary for her to maintain her current weight. She does not complain about her weight or blame anyone else for it. Nothing wrong with that.

My issue is not with weight, it is with responsibility. I would say the same thing about people who go to jail, on welfare or whatever and then try to blame the world for it -- it is just that the weight issue came up rather than one of those.


Edited to note that NotFromHere said it much better than me below. I hope you are comfy in my head -- shall I throw a bag of popcorn (low fat, of course) in the microwave to go with that Budweiser?

Question for medical (and not) types
 

I know what you were saying, wonk. Think: Airplane.

"Bad news from headquarters."

"Really? What is it?"

"It's a big building with lots of people in it, but that's not important right now."

TM

Question for medical (and not) types
 

I think it's the other way around. It's easy to get fat and even easier to stay fat. People who have never been fat don't know how hard it is to lose weight - maintaining your weight is so much easier. Your body fights you when you diet - which is what makes it so hard. The path of least resistance is status quo - and as you get older some weight creeps on. But being truly obese takes a lot of work, that's a lot of shopping and a lot of prep or a lot of drive through. You have to be obsessed with food to consume 12000 calories a day. On the other hand, there are those people in the "fat" category who are where they are because they're just lazy. There are others who are fat because they eat the wrong things. But I will agree with the people who say there are more people in the category of "making excuses." When your kids are 8, you can't call it "baby fat" anymore - you got fat while you were pregnant and kept eating for 2 for the next 10 years - that sort of thing. I hate that. Everyone knows what it takes to lose weight and everyone's looking for a shortcut. You either chose to lose weight or you don't, simple as that. You either accept your weight, make excuses for it, or do something about it.

Edited to add that I was trying to make a point, but it got lost in there. To see my point, please read Thrasher's post above.

reality central
 

I had a truly surreal encounter with Blake's mother the day that the network was announced. In response to my groans at the thought of 24/7 reality TV, she insisted that the network would have "high moral standards" and would not broadcast the "trashy" reality shows we have come to know and love, because Blake is a Christian. I guess nobody tells their mother everything, but yeesh.

fat moratorium
 

I know this is very presumptuous of me, but I would like to please have a one or two day moratorium on the fat talk. It is fucking neverending. Can we please come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

And yes, I am very hungry right now.

The Bottom Line Is
 

Without fatties, there would be no
fat chicks in party hats


The name says it all, you smug fat fucker.

fat moratorium
 

Agreed. Rather than insult, I would like to point out that while watching Austrailian Rules Football last night (WTF, it was on ESPN and I had already watched O'Reilly earlier) I noticed that some of those guys are fucking hot. I totally did not understand the rules but who cares when buff hotties are galloping up and down the field? Anyone have a quick summary of the rules so I can feel better about myself and appreciate the game for more than the hot bods?

fat moratorium
 

Bitch.

fat moratorium
 

Sounds good to me, gwinky. Otherwise we are just baiting the JFF sock to come out of hiding. Let's see... we've discussed fake breasts recently. and religion. and marriage. and adultery.

Seems like what we are missing is some good old fashioned sex talk. Maybe we could bash TF some more on that front (not back)?

I am also hungry. So I am off to lunch (or out to lunch).

fat moratorium
 

Here are the rules. Bunch of guys play a game on what looks like a football field. Try to kill the guy carrying the ball, or at least kick his ass. You can throw or kick the ball to some other schmuck if it looks like you are going to be killed. If that schmuck gets it over the line, you pick a number between 1 and 20 and that's your score. Then you kick the ball and whoever gets it starts running and the fun resumes. In other words, I have watched this thing many times and have tried to figure it out, but sadly I don't get the scoring or the strategy. Much like cricket.

fat moratorium
 

Were any of them fat?

fat moratorium
 

Bash away. I may not be getting it in the ass, but I am getting it more than you. :D

Footie
 

Yeah, kill the guy with the ball. I've discerned a few more, too. 1) The guy running with the ball has to bounce it off the ground (dribble it) ever 5 meters or so.
2) If he gets tackled, he has to give it up (which is why you throw it)
3) throw backwards only, but kick in any direction
4) if you catch a kick inside the 25m(?) box, you get a free kick on goal
5) six points between the two middle uprights; one point if it goes between the middle and side upright on either side
6) if you get a 6-pt goal, they bounce it up at midfield. A 1-pt goal means the team that gave up the goal gets the ball at its own goal.
7) they also bounce it up if the ball goes out of bounds.

But the rules really don't matter, because it's such a damn entertaining game.

Footie
 

Yes. That's why the rules don't matter much. And it's much more entertaining than Arena football - which is stupid.

Footie
 

if you really want to know: GUIDE TO AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL

they actually officially call the rules, "the laws of the game." how cool is that?

Ultimate
 

European Handball is unplayable and unwatchable. But this is from a long time Ultimate player, so it just goes to show you.

POLL: What's the least essential sport (defined for these purposes as competition requiring physical exertion (card games/board games do not count) in which a winner is decided by either objective or subjective criteria (most points, who looks best jumping around on skates)?

I'll take the first shot and say field hockey. Far too many whistles for no apparent reason. European handball comes a close second. Pass, pass, pass, pass, hurl self at goalie and fling ball. Repeat * infinity. Third choice is ringette, which would be far and away the winner if anybody played it anymore.

Ultimate has the virtues of a) lots and lots of running, b) it requires development of unique skills that are fun and challenging to master, c) it's cool to see people abusing their own bodies to such an extent, d) the no-refs/spirit of the game element, e) it's very often played co-ed, and f) the people who play it are generally very nice people.

str8

Footie
 

Outstanding. They have club songs -- I thought I was imagining that opposing fans were trying to outsing each other. That is so cool ---

Question for medical (and not) types
 

So you assume that most fat people follow the paradigm of your fucked up family, instead of the paradigm of your happy-to-be -fat secretary?

Perhaps you watch too much Oprah. Most people I know are fully aware of the reasons they are fat.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

Sure am, want to share my yogurt and pineapple lunch?

Mmmm.

fat moratorium
 

No no. Not like cricket. Cricket is the most mindnumbingly boring sport ever invented. The only thing that makes cricket bearable is if they bribe you with Pimms to stay out there for three hours straight waiting for something to happen. At least something of interest is happening in Australian Rules. Cricket? Nada.

Ultimate
 

I like Ultimate and used to play a lot in college. I think playing after you're 25 is fundamentally wrong, for reasons I can't explain.

But Euro Handball is a cool sport. Very fast paced, very intensely physical. Sort of like basketball, but you don't have to be freakishly tall to be good.

I did have the advantage of learning the sport from a camp counselor who was an international star in the sport -- it always helps to see and learn from the best.

Footie
 

Hmm. these three items are rugby princples too. I'm seeing a pattern.

I think, without a doubt, the best part of Aussie Rules football is the umpire guys indicating that there's a score.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

fat person response: what are you, nuts?

Go get a Big Mac value meal, and tell 'em to SUPERSIZE that muhfudder.

fat moratorium
 

I'm just saying...I have watched Cricket, had it explained to me, I still don't get it. Same with AR Football, watched it, had it explained, don't get it. However, total agreement as to which one is fun to watch regardless of knowing the rules.

Ultimate
 

See above, Cricket.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

Ugh. I have to admit, no clue how anyone can eat that stuff. It makes me feel sick.

Footie
 

After a quick look at the Laws, it appears I have this wrong. You get a free kick if a defender manhandles you anywhere. Apparently never in the history of the game (well, with me watching) has a player caught a ball within this area and not been manhandled, thus entitling him to a free kick.

Ultimate
 

I've been trying to get Gwinky to go curling with me, but no interest. How 'bout you, st8?

The Bottom Line Is
 

Well now we know what Cliff Yablonski has been up to.

For those confused, http://www.somethingawful.com/cliff/ihateyou/

(Pictures and snide remarks purportedly written by a crusty old vet about how much he hates everyone he knows)

That also reminds me of the most inexplicable thing I've ever seen on the net. The Loser Living Upstairs.

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/...427/loser.html

Warning: it's Geocities. Another warning: it's long and there's no earthly reason why anyone would have written this. But it's strangely addictive.

These classic links brought to you by Str8

Footie
 

And when one particular hottie scored a goal last night he did the pointing two fingers out thingie and I was waiting for him to wink and make a clicky noise with his tongue. I guess it is kinda like a field-goal signal but done at your waist.

A couple of times I saw them kick the ball and it was caught in the "end zone" but didn't go through the "goal posts" and that team got a free goal kick if the kicker's team member was the one who caught the ball -- I will have to look that up in my new Laws for the Game as soon as it finishes printing.

Footie
 

agreed (well, one of the best parts). I think anyone who watched ESPN at the beginning of it's existence should have the "goal" and "behind" image burnished in their minds.

While on the topic of rugby-derived sports, could one of our northern friends explain what a rouge is in the CFL?

Useless sports: start with any event in the X-games. Move next to synchronized swimming (and synch. diving). But I think the term "essential" and "sports" don't really go together, at least once you're past things like archery and running.

The NFL
 

All this talk of football has gotten me amped up about REAL football. Training camp starts in 22 hours and PreSeason starts in 15 days.
:partytime

It's the only thing I have to look forward to this fall, since basketball is going to suck out west here with a 2 team race.

Question for medical (and not) types
 

Just the other day, Mrs. Ebola and I were discussing how things have gotten bigger at fast food deathtraps in recent years.

Both of us agreed that what used to be LARGE fries and LARGE sodas are now small or medium fries and sodas.

The extra-large fry containers these days are approximately the size of a horse's feed bag.

Ultimate
 

No one here that I've encountered knows what ringette is (invented in the great city of North Bay no less). I played it from about age 8-15. I didn't realize no one played it anymore - is that because more girls play hockey now?