The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Paigow, you have confused vanity with insecurity. The folks I know with fakes wanted to look better in certain dresses, and they had conservative boob jobs done. If you can barely tell a woman has fakes, then how is she insecure? Clearly she's not doing it for the benefit of all the males around her.

Why is liposuction wrong? Why not pay a few grand so you don't have to run yourself ragged on a treadmill every day? Hell, I may get lipo someday. Idon't want a gut, but I like to eat. Whay not have my cake and eat it too?

I won't comment on what a yoiga guru has to say. You can't offer my softballs like that. The smartass synapses in my head are firing like someone just shot them full of ephedrine.

I've never derided a girl in the world. I like all body types - its about the total package. Small boobs are just as great as big ones and tall and thin is just as nice as short and thin. Hell, most imprtant of all is the face.

What I DO deride is people who deride others' choices because of their own insecurities and then try to cover it up with some doublespeak argument.

S(I'm not free to be intolerant of the intolerant?)D

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TM, in all seriousness, is this supposed to be a nice ass or a not nice ass?

I expect a five bulleted post from SD or the pros and or cons of this ass.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Good try, but I sense you are holding back. Just let it out. Remember the exclamation point can be your friend.

Bitch, please. Ty is king of an entirely different pedantry sphere of influence. For example, he reads books and has a "Kill Your Television" bumper sticker on his VW Vanagon.

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I believe it is the ass of J-Lo, bane of SD and Abba's existence.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

:hi:


I had to relinquish my chair on sniffer's row once at a gentleman's club b/c I was walloped about 10 times in the head with a pair.

I had a headache the rest of the night...

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I think you got it wrong, TM. Coltrane was asking for Velveeta, not cottage cheese.

There is no comma in the FB version of "bitch please." Also, the "b" is not capitalized.

And, that comment of Ty's was SO you; you just feel threatened. I think that means you have a teeny weenie. Which must mean you are stunningly gorgeous!

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Me, me, me, me. But only because it is creepy how they track you no matter where you go in the room -- you know, like the eyes in the portraits in a Scooby-Doo cartoon. whoooooooooooooo scary. :D

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No. I might capeesh, coppish, capiche, capiece, comprendere, or capisci, though.

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Don't know what TM's reaction is. But while I rarely fear fake tits, I can honestly say that that ass inspires something just short of panic.

Holey moley.

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Does your mama know your photoshopped her cellulited ass onto J-Lo's body?

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Honey, men and women find different things attractive. Just because we're not attracted to the same things doesn't mean we feel threatened.

I am in my early 30s so I have a bit of wisdom about appearance. Looks fade, unless you pay a fortune for maintenance. I am related to a gorgeous woman in her early 50s who spends 3-5 hours a day exercising, spends more on trainers than almost all of you make in a year, and who routinely get injected and peeled and tightened, and is still going through an awful divorce. I'd rather have my self-esteem than her hot body.

I am not threatened by a hot woman unless she is actively chasing the OM -- in other words, unless she is actually threatening me.

The trashy thing does nothing for me. While I admire (some) strippers bodies, I have never thought damn, I wish I looked like that. I once thought that fake breasts would be a good idea so I would never have to wear a bra again . . . until I saw an MTV True Life that was so horrifying I cannot rid myself of the image on the surgery table and the pain of the recovery room.

NYTimes Porn Section (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Could you cap Cheech? Only, of course, if N & S America have been discovered by Penske and Ty.

If I'm following this entire conversation, I think it also means he has three cars, and fake tits.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Glad to know that you are so open-minded.

Why the fuck can't we talk about ANYTHING else besides women's weight??

I'll do him, but only if one of the cars is a Hummer.

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More like Anna Nicole's fake cellulited tits were photoshopped on this woman. Just dot in a couple of nips and you are all set. This has to be the most vulgar display of assitude I have ever seen. I was wondering if any men found this appealing rather than appalling?

You already said he had a Mini . . .

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

Your desk, NFH's desk or my desk and when?

Exactly; which takes care of the other car requirement. I've never derided a boy in the world. A boy with a brand-new fully-loaded BMW 7-series is just as good as a boy with an M-class Mercedes. And if he has a high-end little teeny sports cars from either BMW or Mercedes, he's just as good as a boy with one of the big sedans.

Edited to fix typo/misquote and change from guy to boy.

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But, more importantly, Paigow's Mom has got it going on...

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Was that the one where the guy got the calf implants? WTF was up with that? I had never heard of such a thing and it looked really fucking painful. Apparently, you can now have anything sucked out, put in, tightened, loosened, rearranged. I have considered getting a reduction but am way too a-scared of needles and of being knocked out and the thought of having boob removed and nipples cut off and put back on without a pain killer is creepy. BTW, I know they have to do the nipple thing so that the removal of boob material doesn't make your nips end up in a funny place (like cross-eyed or something) but how do they make sure that you can still, um, feel nip stimulation? I mean, does having that done lead to nipples with no feeling? Being a big errogenous zone for me, I guess I would rather have my nips sagging to my belly-button when I am 50 than have no feeling in them. :eek:

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Gotcha. You can say "I'm not attracted to that," but that's different than saying "That's fucking ugly - what kind of person would do that???" and being judgmental. You do that and you betray an insecurity which deserves to be outed by everyone w/in earshot of the comment.

My wife has a fat friend who bitches about how all of the girls in the group are too skinny. I always reply politely "Well, they're very active" when what i really want to say is "You'd be skinny too if you'd fucking join a gym and stop being such a slob."

A friend of mine complains that he can't get laid and says all other guys have unfair advantages over him (money, looks, rap, etc...). I try to get him to go to the gym. I try to get him to meet ladies. Hell, I try everything to get him out and "in the game." Eventually I gave up and said "Fuck you, if you won't change your appearance and personaility you'll never meet a chick." He didn't like it, but he knows not to bitch around me anymore.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Because if we talk about men's weight it might upset Wanker. And we want him to keep ticking.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Nope, it was all breasts, baby.

It was HORRIFYING: the incisions, the blood, the gore.

Since I just spent a week with MomOdds, I am more confident that everything will stay reasonably where it is supposed to without surgical enhancement.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

I would like to point out that I have not said word fucking one about weight today (male or female) so nobody can blame weight-threads on me today. :seenno:

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

If I find it, I will post it, but Soleil Moon Frye (I think that's her name) the kid who played Punky Brewster had a condition called Giganticus mammarius (just kidding on the name, but it sounds like that) and she had a reduction. They told her that she would not be able to breast feed, nor would she have feeling in her nips, don't know whether they'll ever "arise" again, but I can't see how if there's no feeling. It depends on how much you're having removed (I think). I better do some research on this before I put my foot in it deeper - but I believe my memory is fairly clear on this.

Edited to add...In her early teens, she discovered she was suffering from gigantomastia, a medical condition that literally means "giant breasts." Her bosom was so big she ached from severe back pain and sore shoulders!

And her teasing friends were merciless -- they even called her Punky Boobster. Breast reduction surgery at age 16 brought her from a 36DD to a 36C, and now she's thrilled with her breasts. "I'm very proud of my body. I love them. I love being voluptuous. I'm very blessed," she says.

punky brewster

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One woman's floor is another woman's ceiling
 

Sorry, I just thought this was funny enough to bear repeating.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

Is it different when guys do that? 'Cuz, I am immediately turned off by the idea of fake stuff inserted into a woman's body, and it honestly doesn't stem from any insecurity on my part.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

I'm so proud of my mom. She's turning 60 next year, and she's recently joined a gym, works out with her personal trainer two times a week, and just started up pilates. She's looking great, and I think she's feeling great too. She says that she's pretty happy with the way she looks, after all these years. If I look half as good at 60 (especially if I have four kids in five years; some muscles never recover), I'll be a lucky woman.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

You are my way-cooler sock puppet. That show was terrifying. I went through a phase where I considered a little enhancement, but decided against it. I do wish for the ability to pull off braless looks sometimes though. Then again, sometimes I just do it anyway (regardless of whether or not I am objectively pulling it off). Not at work though, DS.

One woman's floor is another woman's ceiling
 

Stop hatin'.

Finally -- someone added the comma (it had to be you Atticus -- swoon!). It makes so much more sense this way!

Abba -- may I suggest you include the comma when sending your trenchant and well-worded response to opposing counsel? I think you would find that there would be no misinterpretation of the very fine point you are making that way!! [The exclamation point is my friend too -- in fact, I am the friend of all forms of punctuation.]

Forgive me; it's been a long day.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

fake stuff? FAKE STUFF?

One woman's floor is another woman's ceiling
 

E/O, some of us old folks just thought that "early thirties" comment was kind of endearing. You're a hot young thing. Accept it.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

I would believe you if you didn't use the word "honestly" to make your point. I think it's time for a long look in the mirror. And not just the metaphorical mirror.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

No toys for bilmore. Many of the lesbian-themed pornos are out too. So sad.

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

You know you want me, and that scares you. Admit it.

NFH can't be involved -- while like SD I like women who are tall and thin or short and thin (whether they have big boobies or not), I think she's probably learned eating habits from her forebears and is a fattie. You, me and a fattie won't fit under one desk.

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

I'd like to point out that I was both the first person and marathoner to call dibs...