I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

I question this assertion.

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

. . . on NFH, because now she is out in the cold? You are kind.

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

Not specifically under the desk. But in general. Two weeks ago. I was chosen b/c I am pretty.*

*but not as pretty as PLF, NTTAWWT.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

I don't know, but if all the lesbians in the world looked and acted like the threesome in that one vignette in "The Dinner Party," I would walk around with a permagrin and accompanying hard on (mine).

Thurgreed(thanks E/O)Marshall

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

I'm preternaturally boyishly good looking and have the long standing claim to that title.

Now you see why I hate pretty flowery socks!

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

Coltrane and Penske,

If this needs to get decided, why don't you two have a one-on-one (thighmasters optional), film it, and let the FB decide who's the better/prettier/not-so-two-weeks-ago boy?

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

And the winner goes up against PLF.

I see you have been using your thighmaster
 

go for it. all yours. And for the record - NOT FAT.

for gwinky
 

Yes, but are you Kenyan thin?

No, I just wanted to say "Ixlatl."

This works only because I find I understand the board better if I read everything aloud to myself. In this way, I am nothing like Atticus.

for gwinky
 

No, I am hopelessly average. But in a good way.

I've been looking for a "Televise Your Kill" sticker to match for the little woman's Mini.

for gwinky
 

wink wink.

And I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am a huge fan of the inside joke post if I am on the inside. Now that I have no hand left with TM, if anyone is interested in winning my favo(u)r, Penske has just provided a textbook example of how to do it. Go Penske!!

More breast reduction info
 

I didn't know about this, but men can also get the breast reduction. And many of them should. Pass this on to someone who is in need.

Male breast reduction

This one's for Thrasher.
breast reduction - possible side effects

More breast reduction info
 

Sigh.

More breast reduction info
 

That said men goddammit! What happened?

More breast reduction info
 

It did not. All I did was take out some text and replace it with ". . ." Then you went back and changed it and put in another link. But whatever you want to say, it's fine.

Edited to say: By "changed it" I meant "me" to "men."

More breast reduction info
 

I don't date men THAT much younger than I am, and I wouldn't work for a Republican senator.

More breast reduction info
 

I love the fact that the good doctor's offices are in Chester, Virginia.

for gwinky
 

Yes. Score!

for gwinky
 

Does this mean the desk trio is out?

In Memoriam
 

I would just like to take this opportunity to say that I've been, well, a little down the last couple days. Kind of disconsolate, discontented, disappointed, distant, etc.

And I've finally figured it out.

I miss that fat old vomity hag Arby.

Edited to say, and if she's on here under a different moniker she's really in a slump. Not up to par at all.

for gwinky
 

Absolutely not. Gwinky just loves me for my mind. And my spiritual connection to the Great White North. You and/or fringie can have me for my body.

In Memoriam
 

Given past history, I just assumed that bi-berry bikini'd was her sock.

In Memoriam
 

Given whose past history?

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

There you have it, proof you have to be born a lesbian and cannot be turned into one. Exhibit a: Men are annoying. Exhibit b: Women are annoying.

I rest my case.

In Memoriam
 

Originally posted by LessinSF

Time has either passed or it hasn't. All history is in the past.

And for other things timmy, that bad old fringie misspelled "nfh" as "nfm"

In Memoriam
 

Concur. This is exactly the point I was trying to make with my faux-allegation. Notwithanding that passage and my frequent admissions of retirement from socking its interesting to note how many people prefer to dwell in past on this issue.

And One Last Shocking News Item
 

Now mix tapes aren't fair use either?

Luckily, we're moving away from the theft/no theft arguments into what the music industry should/might/will look like as a result of P2P.

The big change would happen if Apple bought UMG or another major label (as has been rumored). If a computer company owned a music company, they could bring a completely different perspective to this debate. Many small indie labels (Bloodshot for example) have signed on with Apple Music. It's interesting that Apple (and none of the other record company owned/controlled sites) were able to provide a product that satisfied both consumers and indie labels.

Those who believe that Bill Frist is going to make the music world a better place for consumers, artists, and indie labels should give serious thought to cutting down on the shibby.

FWIW, I completely distinguish downloading music from downloading movies. As previously stated, I have a handful of downloads, most of them covers, bootlegs, legal tracks, smashups, or oddities. I do have this cool live set from The Avalanches, but I don't think they cleared any of the hundred or so samples on the 20+ minute mix, so I'm taking them Aussies with me. And those who download indie music to sample but then don't buy the albums and go to the shows are bad people. And so-called "indepedent" radio promoters do suck and have helped Clear Channel ruin radio. And if I could take odds on "Anthony Powell will leave his post as FCC Chairman to take a spot in the front office in clear channel in 2-5 years," I would be heading to Vegas right now.

Speaking of Phoebe Cates, did she ever look better than she did in Fast Times? This could be something like a poll. Name a actor and the movie where you think that actor looked their best.

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

No, it's different. Men didn't come up with the cliche, "All the good ones are either married or gay." That was women. Probably not the women on this board. Possibly some of the secretaries to some of the women and men on this board.

In contrast, very few men criticize women who have had plastic surgery. I'm reminded of the Robert Schimmel line: "My next door neighbor just got a boob job. Now her boobs are so out of proportion to her body that it's just... perfect."

When guys comment on the possible penis size of a man who is "better looking, more muscled, and more successful" than him, it doesn't mean they're jealous, it means they're gay. I'm reminded of the Bobcat Goldthwait line about gay bashers: "I hate you because you're a fag (punch) and you're queer (punch) and I find you attractive (punch)."

Men to Boyz
 

Originally posted by ltl/fb

Boys? So you're saying it's not the size of the car; it's how fast it recovers on your curves?

And One Last Shocking News Item
 

Kevin Cosner- The Big Chill

Yes, I think we have hashed and rehashed the legal illegal thing to death now, so moving on.

It has been proposed that much like a small fee has been added to blank tapes, a small fee should be added to blank cds. In return, based upon some equation I couldn't begin to understand, a portion of that fee is returned to the different companies that are most likely having their songs downloaded.

I believe that particular plan had some kinks to work out as of yet, but it is the best one I have heard so far, because fact is, they are no more going to stop file trading then they are going to stop underage kids from drinking and smoking cigarettes, or many people from smoking pot. And frankly, trading files is easier and cheaper to do than those things.

Already as a response to the lawsuit/prosecution fear numerous private servers have popped up. It is in a way a reversion to the past of having to search for locations where the songs are, and that was a pain in the butt (I am speaking prior to napster) but the difference is there are already huge networks of people trading files, and it is easy to find one another if you want. They are harder to shut down than a simple ftp web site, and once you find them, the file trading continues happily. These folks are also about as anonymous as you can get and it will be very very difficult to trace them. By the time the companies figure out how to trace the people, they will have moved on to still better software.

Actually what the suits will prevent is the occasional user who doesn't know how to go about finding these secret groups. The people doing the mega file trading however will easily continue.

These suits are much like a bandaid slapped on a gaping wound. Sure it stops a tiny bit of the blood under the bandaid, but most of it, still pouring on out. (Hey, enjoy your breakfasts on that image ok?)

I think Germany has a system like that. It's basically a tax on blank tapes, CDs, and recording machines. It's atrocious, because it doesn't address the problem. Instead it's a tax stream given to record companies. It's therefore approximately equivalent to handouts to farmers. It also is borne most heavily by those that least use the system, since it's essentially a flat tax. I have plenty of CD's that I legally purchases. I am permitted (so far as I can tell under the copyright laws) to make a mixed CD of songs I have purchased for my own use. I should not have to pay anyone to do that, having laid out $15 for the CD. Bilmore, with all of his illegal downloads, makes a CD and pays the same? That's fair.

BTW, to timmy Manfred. Don't bet on anthony powell. that's a sucker bet. take Michael Powell.

Actor's peak
 

Originally posted by Jack Manfred

Looks? Or memorability?

Looks:
Kim Bassinger in Batman
Dylan McDermott in Destiny Turned On the Radio
Gabriel Byrne in The Usual Suspects
Christopher Walken in The Deer Hunter
River Phoenix in A Night in the Life of Jimmy Reardon

Memorability:
Sigourney Weaver in Aliens
Tim Roth in Little Odessa
Jeff Bridges in The Big Lebowski
Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter
Gene Hackman toss-up Hoosiers or The Conversation

Bit of a leap there from handouts to farmers to calculating how much is being downloaded and paying companies based on it. But no it isn't perfect, and I too have some real concerns about its viability. I said it was the best I have heard so far, perhaps someone will think of something better soon. Other than stopping file trading, because that simply isn't going to happen.

There either is or was proposed a tax like this in Canada, and it has some of the problems you mention. I don't think a flat tax across the board would work well, I think there would have to be a way to get around it say for bands who want to make their own cds, but I am not sure how that would work. That is one of the big problems, taxing people who have no intention of using the tapes and cds for anything illegal.

Here are some articles against the Canadian version. http://www.ccfda.ca/subsections/eng_library.html

And no, it isn't fair, but presently no one is getting paid for it at all. And that isn't fair either. There has to be some way to balance the different interests. I think the best solution is to have something such as Apple has developed, many people will be willing to pay if it is easy to use and reasonably priced. Some people will never be willing to pay, and those are the people exchanging huge amounts of files.


And Bilmore, stop with the illegal filetrading, what kind of role model are you for your many children doing all that? Sheesh.

Speaking of timely, http://www.napsterbits.com has come out with the 3rd episode in its series.

Meet the firm
 

And meet the cheesy web site

Someone posted about this on the midatlantic board, but I found it amusing so I figured I would share. I like the flying saucer looking planet. I also like the name. The Firm? Do they read too many novels? Lack imagination? What?

See Jeffrey and Bruce
See Jeffrey and Bruce with clients
See Jeffrey and Bruce with ugly web site
See leagleaze laugh
laugh leagleaze laugh

The Real Reason Women Hate Plastic Surgery (Goddamnit, Say What You Really Mean)
 

I wasn't playing the class card. I was playing the gender-attitudes card, because I thought yours were grade-school "women who have a legitimate gripe I don't agree with are just catty about prettier women" sexist. In my experience, pigs come in all classes--often worst from the higher-ups.

Meet the firm
 

Not knowing them personally, I would still wager that all of it is a bit of a joke. Not the Firm themselves, but the website in its full ludicriousness. (It has looked the same for the past four years at least and certainly is the standard for online cheesiness.)

The Firm represents some of the biggest names in H'wood (and because all threads here are actually circles, Jeffrey is the post-Ashton boyfriend of Brittanny Murphy who Abba mentioned yesterday), so the cheesiness of their website is a choice, not a naivete.

BB4 anyone/Boy meets Boy/ Queer I
 

spoiler space

















BB4 finally got interesting. I was bummed that the Bulldog got taken off of the chopping block bc she has got to be the most annoying person I have ever seen on a reality tv show. Except Tina from Survivor 2, the standard by which I measure annoying. And I love FBI Jack. He is so Clint Eastwood with a southern twist. His gray body hair is a little repulsive- I may actuallly be in favor of shaving for this guy, but otherwise, he was my pick to make it to at least the last four. Stealth. So who is gonna go? I hope its David bc man is he boring.

Boy Meets Boy. THis show I like. I wish they told us how many straights there were. That Dan guy may be the first blond/blue eyed man I have found attractive since I was DVed. I totally did not get any gay vibe from this guy until he started doing the heavy eye contact thing. Is the manwhore, open relationship story bullshit to win cash? I suspected this was the case bc I jsut get something straight from him. This show is a total test of my gaydar. I also think Sean is straight bc no gay man would have that haircut and I am hoping Franklin is. So many cute guys on this show. Will be curious to see if there are any woman hating queens on this show- great that ANdra is there.

Queer Eye- This is the first episode I saw all the way through and it was great. Carson is absolutely fabulous as was that chocolate mousse. I am craving it- where can I get that recipe and where in DC can I get chocolate of that caliber? Probably nowhere. And how hot was that straight guy? I totally agreed witht he FAb five that the chick was thinking "how can I tell this guy 'no'" bc they are such a mismatch. Reminds me of JLo and her first two husbands and I dont see this lasting til then, but how dreamy was he just then? When will we get to the point where a woman who is six years older and has prospects and a grad degree would be willing to marry a blue collar man? Would this guy be willing to stay at home to raise the kids, bc that is the only way I see this marriage working. Or is he too blue collar macho to do it?