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evenodds 08-05-2003 09:52 AM

e/o, you can make that check out to paigowprincess
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze Second I don't think I have ever seen someone referred to as lantern jawed twice in one article before.
PeopleNews is my favorite gossip site. Their quotes are always jacked -- a couple of days ago they quoted Beyonce lamenting her inability to fry "chips" -- but their information is good and snarky.

They always refer to Ben as lantern-jawed as many times as they can in each article.

Anne Elk 08-05-2003 09:57 AM

e/o, you can make that check out to paigowprincess
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
PeopleNews ....
They always refer to Ben as lantern-jawed as many times as they can in each article.
So how do they refer to Jay Leno?

Anne Elk 08-05-2003 09:59 AM

Bennifer and J.Lo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
No. You didnt mention JHo ripping off the Pink Diamond Ring she has flaunted in our faces all these months. That's the coup de grace for me. Ironic since Ben has found other pink dont you think? The whole thing was very symbolic. I can feel Matt Damon's huge sigh of relief all the way over here. The witch is dead.
Phew!

The Track article didn't have the juicy details that People News had. I guess this means will be seeing Ben again in The People's Republik.

Link to today's Boston Herald article.
What was Tara Reid doing there?

Edited to add link.

Shape Shifter 08-05-2003 10:05 AM

e/o, you can make that check out to paigowprincess
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Please let this be true. http://www.peoplenews.com/news/index.php?id=2591

spree: as predicted and bet upon by moi, jlo and "mr. lo" split, and apparently he has realized that jLo doesnt have the market on pussy.

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!


What is left to believe in? Life is not worth living anymore . . .

greatwhitenorthchick 08-05-2003 10:05 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Maybe we could make a show in which straight girls teach lesbians how to dress. Problem is it wouldn't be endearing, it would be catty.
I've had it up to here (waving arm over head) with all this talk about how women are so mean. Frankly, I don't see it. Most women I know are real sweethearts. Friendly, supportive, kind etc. I don't see cattiness among my friends and although the occasional bitchy remark might come out, it's not as if it's undeserved in the circumstances and it really doesn't happen too often. We are not particularly nice people (i.e. not nicer than average) - I just think our behavior is pretty normal and that women are not these chronically catty creatures people here seem to be making them out to be.

dtb 08-05-2003 10:07 AM

True Confessions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Don't you think this was the most critical element to your argument considering it completely justifies it?
Nah -- I thought it might seem like I was trying to sound hoity toity. (I will admit, however, that it was the reason I finally relented when my husband suggested we buy the monstrosity...)

We definitely need 4-wheel drive with the snow. It doesn't need to be this particular model of course, but everyone in the area has a 4WD car.

I think the Expedition is the F-series pickup, just with seats and stuff instead of the open area part (the name of which is escaping me now) on a pickup. (Flatbed? I don't think that's right... Help!)

leagleaze 08-05-2003 10:11 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I've had it up to here (waving arm over head) with all this talk about how women are so mean. Frankly, I don't see it. Most women I know are real sweethearts. Friendly, supportive, kind etc. I don't see cattiness among my friends and although the occasional bitchy remark might come out, it's not as if it's undeserved in the circumstances and it really doesn't happen too often. We are not particularly nice people (i.e. not nicer than average) - I just think our behavior is pretty normal and that women are not these chronically catty creatures people here seem to be making them out to be.
My friends are my friends because they aren't catty. The cattiness I experience isn't among my friends, it is among people I don't like and/or don't know well, and it comes from rank jealousy.

No, not all women are mean or catty, some are. Same with men though. It just so happens that the reality dress shows that women do are extremely catty. I saw one not too long ago on BBC America and I had to turn it off they were so mean to the woman.

DFH's_Shit_Shoveler 08-05-2003 10:13 AM

True Confessions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
Nah -- I thought it might seem like I was trying to sound hoity toity. (I will admit, however, that it was the reason I finally relented when my husband suggested we buy the monstrosity...)

We definitely need 4-wheel drive with the snow. It doesn't need to be this particular model of course, but everyone in the area has a 4WD car.

I think the Expedition is the F-series pickup, just with seats and stuff instead of the open area part (the name of which is escaping me now) on a pickup. (Flatbed? I don't think that's right... Help!)
It is starting to stink in here.

W.W.L.D. 08-05-2003 10:27 AM

True Confessions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mmm3587

[1] "You." [point at womam] "Here." [point to lap]. The guy I knew in college who did this said it worked about 10% of the time, about 10% resulted in some sort of boyfriend altercation, about 10% resulted in slaps, and the remaining 70% were just looks of disgust or eye rolls.
With that demeaning attitude, you should fit right in for the upcoming hotornot.com-esque boob--o--rama.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-05-2003 10:28 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
I saw one not too long ago on BBC America and I had to turn it off they were so mean to the woman.
If you are talking about What not to Wear, I don't think those two are catty. In fact, I think what you are calling catty is a difference between how British women interact and how American women interact. British women (at least in my family), do not shrink from criticism and are not gushy. A lot of jokes go on at other people's expense. But it is meant in the spirit of helpfulness, not meanness or jealousy.

W.W.L.D. 08-05-2003 10:29 AM

Bandwagon
 
How can I compete with Uncle Jesse from Full House?

W.W.L.D. 08-05-2003 10:33 AM

How Would Jesus Watch on TV?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
You said that the state of TV in 2003 is poor. I take that personally. TV is so much better now than it was even 5 years ago, let alone 20, that it's hard to believe it's the same medium.

I spend more time with my TV than I do with anyone except my fiance and my secretary. Please do not insult the current state of TV, especially reality programming. I don't know you outside of your TV-hating posts, but that one was a doozy.
Then you will love a TV that you can walk through. The new Walk-thru Fog Screen.

notcasesensitive 08-05-2003 10:43 AM

A Story for Leagl
 
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/200...mom/index.html

Sounds like a writer has already taken your concept (maybe he was cruising the boards yesterday?).

Bad_Rich_Chic 08-05-2003 10:46 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I think what you are calling catty is a difference between how British women interact and how American women interact. British women (at least in my family), do not shrink from criticism and are not gushy. A lot of jokes go on at other people's expense.
Otherwise known as the great british tradition of "taking the piss." I don't think this has anything to do with gender. Men are just as likely (probably more so) to do it.

You are correct, Americans very much do not get this fine british sporting tradtion, and tend to be insulted/shocked that someone would be so openly personally critical and use it for humorous effect. After some years I have actually gotten to where I can take it, though I still lack the skill (or experience, perhaps) to dish it out. But, yeah, generally this doesn't fly in America. We're too busy being sensitive to each others feelings. Fuckin' whimps.

BR(had to extract some friends from impending beatings once or twice because of this)C

Sidd Finch 08-05-2003 10:48 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I've had it up to here (waving arm over head) with all this talk about how women are so mean. Frankly, I don't see it. Most women I know are real sweethearts. Friendly, supportive, kind etc. I don't see cattiness among my friends and although the occasional bitchy remark might come out, it's not as if it's undeserved in the circumstances and it really doesn't happen too often. We are not particularly nice people (i.e. not nicer than average) - I just think our behavior is pretty normal and that women are not these chronically catty creatures people here seem to be making them out to be.

Shut up, bitch.


Seriously, such a show would be catty because it would be Hollywood, and purveying stereotypes is essential. Just like the ads for "queer eye" (another reality show I don't watch) suggest that gay men are all raging flames (and straight men are slobs who can't cook, clean, or dress), to suit the popular stereotype rather than to reflect reality.

Bad_Rich_Chic 08-05-2003 10:54 AM

Theory of the lingere shower
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
don't think that just because they haven't had premarital sex they aren't fully gung-ho about marital sex. I went to a Mormon bridal shower recently, and the (virgin) bride was delighted to receive not just one but several sex books (I gave her Anne Hooper's Kama Sutra, which is pocket-sized and tastefully bound but features lots of photos of nekkid people).
See, that makes perfect sense to me. The whole reason for a lingere shower is that the virginal (or "virginal") bride actually needs this stuff/advice. First time brides who, um, don't, can get away with it because of the willing suspension of common knowledge, so everyone can enjoy play-acting at her being an unworldly virgin about to be initiated into the amatory arts in an atmosphere of lightly ironic nostalgia. An already married woman can't even play-act at sexual innocence and ignorance, so the whole thing just seems sordid.

But with truly (more or less) innocent brides you can go all out with the kinky stuff, because there is no delicate balance between reality/pretense to maintain.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-05-2003 10:54 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
But, yeah, generally this doesn't fly in America. We're too busy being sensitive to each others feelings. Fuckin' whimps.

We're a bunch of sensitive pussies. Always talking about our feelings...it's disgusting. That's why everyone was so offended by Simon Crowell. Whereas in the UK, he wouldn't be considered harsh at all. Here, he's a monster. He didn't seem offensive to me (the one time I watched the show)...

I blame Oprah.



How is the most powerful country in the world also the most insecure? Do we have a collective tiny penis?

Penske_Account 08-05-2003 11:00 AM

How Would Jesus Watch on TV?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)


Is this Rudi Bahktiar naked or something?
No, but I have a fertile imagination. No pun intended. nttawwt.

ThrashersFan 08-05-2003 11:00 AM

Theory of the lingere shower
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
An already married woman can't even play-act at sexual innocence and ignorance, so the whole thing just seems sordid.

Who, me? :sarcastic
My father would still like to believe that his baby girl, the mother of his only grandchild, is yet unsullied.

W.W.L.D. 08-05-2003 11:03 AM

Is This Funny?
 
10 Things You Don't Know About Women, By Ana Gasteyer, in the August Esquire

http://www.esquire.com/features/arti..._gasteyer.html

Neither funny nor original.

Penske_Account 08-05-2003 11:07 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think you can't reach the lower parts of your legs and have no idea what your feet look like anymore.

TM
Maybe, but as long as yo mama can still wedge her toothless grin between the bikini lines I ain't changin' a thang.

Penske (fat n' happy) Account

Puft Daddy 08-05-2003 11:09 AM

Bennifer and J.Lo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk

What was Tara Reid doing there?

You know it's a good source when they refer to her as "the inevitable Tara Reid".

But that question deserves an answer ... was she banging Christian Slater? Aff-Ho? Both? Neither (just friends)? Working on the same project and bored with nothing to do?

Maybe peoplenews has the answer.

Edited to add that Tara Reid would rank very high on my plastic-covered list of people I'd most like to visit a strip club with.

purse junkie 08-05-2003 11:14 AM

Is This Funny?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by W.W.L.D.
10 Things You Don't Know About Women, By Ana Gasteyer, in the August Esquire

http://www.esquire.com/features/arti..._gasteyer.html

Neither funny nor original.
We shave our toes?

Bad_Rich_Chic 08-05-2003 11:15 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
We're a bunch of sensitive pussies. Always talking about our feelings...it's disgusting.
I don't think it's concern with our own feelings (mostly), it's over concern with the feelings of others. Here, if your friend is being a fucking whiner, most Americans would have to think hard about how (or if) to mention it, and then only do it in a supposedly "constructive" way. Just saying "you're a fucking whiner," much less following that up with relentless taunting, just doesn't enter the equation here.

Quote:

I blame Oprah.
I blame PC.

Quote:

How is the most powerful country in the world also the most insecure? Do we have a collective tiny penis?
I think that, because our cultural diversity means everyone takes everything differently, we've gotten used to assuming, though I hate to phrase it this way, that no one has a sense of humor, no criticism is legitimate, and no one will know if you are kidding about much of anything. 'Cause we're all supposed to live in harmony here, right? So we all limp around trying not to give offense.

Well, I think that fucking sucks. Offending people is fun. Offending people is funny. (NB: Causing people to feel physically threatened or in danger is not funny.) Everyone should have to deal with the fact that most people will not like you because of, or even in spite of, your faults. Your faults aren't what make you loveable or give you character, they are faults. People not calling you fat, or ugly, or stupid, or impotent, or cheap, or an asshole, to your face doesn't mean they don't know it, don't think it, or think its OK. So what's the point.

leagleaze 08-05-2003 11:15 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If you are talking about What not to Wear, I don't think those two are catty. In fact, I think what you are calling catty is a difference between how British women interact and how American women interact. British women (at least in my family), do not shrink from criticism and are not gushy. A lot of jokes go on at other people's expense. But it is meant in the spirit of helpfulness, not meanness or jealousy.
Looked pretty nasty to me. And yes, that makes me a sensitive american. Like any of you are surprised I'm sensitive.

mmm3587 08-05-2003 11:17 AM

True Confessions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you always this annoying?

TM
It just takes a little while, and a good sense of humor, to appreciate my schtick. Keep studying my posts, and it will come to you like a flash of light.

Penske_Account 08-05-2003 11:20 AM

Is This Funny?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
We shave our toes?
I have.

Sparklehorse 08-05-2003 11:21 AM

Is This Funny?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by W.W.L.D.
10 Things You Don't Know About Women, By Ana Gasteyer, in the August Esquire

http://www.esquire.com/features/arti..._gasteyer.html

Neither funny nor original.
Just out of curiosity, why did you post this if/when it is so obviously not funny?

What would Uncle Jesse do?

leagleaze 08-05-2003 11:24 AM

A Story for Leagl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/200...mom/index.html

Sounds like a writer has already taken your concept (maybe he was cruising the boards yesterday?).
Damn, there go my millions.

Actually that is a great article. When I was coming out one of the things I actually wondered about was whether I would have to change myself externally, I really had no idea what a lesbian was supposed to be like. Fortunately, I realized somewhat quickly there was no way I had to be. There seem to be less stereotypes about lesbians, I've noticed, than about gay men. Except of course, we all like 3somes and need men to help us finish the job, and/or are just looking for the right man. But that is different from physical appearances. The only stereotype I hear is the butch, bulldyke sort of thing, and most people seem to realize that is a very small part of the lesbian community.

And Penske, you were fabulous last night honey. I loved your smooth legs and man skirt. You probably should touch up your fingernails though.

leagleaze 08-05-2003 11:25 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Shut up, bitch.


Seriously, such a show would be catty because it would be Hollywood, and purveying stereotypes is essential. Just like the ads for "queer eye" (another reality show I don't watch) suggest that gay men are all raging flames (and straight men are slobs who can't cook, clean, or dress), to suit the popular stereotype rather than to reflect reality.

Thank you, that is exactly what I was trying to say.

W.W.L.D. 08-05-2003 11:25 AM

Keeping With the Current Theme
 
My theme, at least.

This guy is a fucking jingoist jerkoff.


BOSTON — An immigration judge was placed on administrative leave Monday after complaints that he made jokes about Tarzan to a woman who had been raped and tortured in her native Uganda (search).


The woman, whose first name is Jane, went before Judge Thomas Ragno (search) in June, seeking political asylum in the United States, saying government soldiers killed her husband and attacked her.

"Jane, come here. Me Tarzan!" Ragno said, according to the woman's doctor, who attended the June 20 deportation hearing to testify as an expert witness about the woman's claims.

"It was disrespectful and insulting, and in my mind it was racist to have a white judge making Tarzan comments to a black woman," said Dr. Sondra Crosby.

Ragno also dialed the weather number on his speaker phone so he could listen to the weekend weather forecast and talked in open court about looking for a new condominium, Crosby said. The judge rejected the woman's bid for asylum.

As part of the woman's appeal of Ragno's decision, Crosby filed an affidavit protesting Ragno's courtroom behavior.

The Executive Office for Immigration Review (search), a division of the U.S. Department of Justice, placed Ragno on paid leave Monday after learning of the complaint, first reported Monday in the Boston Herald.

Edited to add a link for The Man: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93777,00.html

Edited by leagl to say the woman you dolt, not the man. Sheesh.

purse junkie 08-05-2003 11:26 AM

Is This Funny?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I have.
Well, if you're wearing that skirt with open-toed shoes, smooth-shaven toes are de rigeur.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-05-2003 11:27 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Looked pretty nasty to me.
Let me give you an example. One of my cousin's nickname is "Porkie" because he was chubby. He is now considerably slimmer, but still known as "Porkie", "Fatty" etc. My nickname is "Bump", as in bump-on-a-log because I am very quiet and apparently pretty dull. I think some of my aunts and uncles don't know my name because I am (still) just referred to as "our little bump". My aunt is kind of naiive and she is referred to so often as the "silly cow" that it's almost her nickname. It sounds dysfunctional and nasty, but these nicknames are all terms of endearment - you wouldn't call someone an insulting name if you didn't love him. I'm not trying to defend it, it just seems to be the way things are for British people (less so now, they seem to be getting just as flaky over there as here).

leagleaze 08-05-2003 11:29 AM

Keeping With the Current Theme
 
Quote:

Originally posted by W.W.L.D.
My theme, at least.

This guy is a fucking jingoist jerkoff.

When you post an article please post the link from which you got it too, proper attribution and all that.

Thanks

leagleaze 08-05-2003 11:32 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Let me give you an example.
I understand, I just think it is nasty and unnecessary. And yes, like everyone says, that makes me a wimp, and/or nice, you pick.

It is true, I don't like to be mean, but there are numerous people here and in life who can tell you I am perfectly capable of going after someone for the sake of humor and for the hell of it. Just in a different way.

So it probably is a cultural thing I simply don't understand. That's fine, but it doesn't stop me from finding it catty.

Anne Elk 08-05-2003 11:34 AM

Keeping With the Current Theme
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
When you post an article please post the link from which you got it too, proper attribution and all that.

Thanks
An excerpt and link to Monday's Herald article are posted in the Boston forum.

idle acts 08-05-2003 11:36 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If you are talking about What not to Wear, I don't think those two are catty. In fact, I think what you are calling catty is a difference between how British women interact and how American women interact. British women (at least in my family), do not shrink from criticism and are not gushy. A lot of jokes go on at other people's expense. But it is meant in the spirit of helpfulness, not meanness or jealousy.
I agree, and besides, they have made over some seriously unattractive women on that show, and they always find at least one positive thing to say about them. Such as telling a somewhat plus size gal that they loved her "bum."

paigowprincess 08-05-2003 11:37 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
We're a bunch of sensitive pussies. Always talking about our feelings...it's disgusting. That's why everyone was so offended by Simon Crowell. Whereas in the UK, he wouldn't be considered harsh at all. Here, he's a monster. He didn't seem offensive to me (the one time I watched the show)...

I blame Oprah.



How is the most powerful country in the world also the most insecure? Do we have a collective tiny penis?
We ain't well hung but we got the tongue.

You need an avatar and to clean out your litterbox.

bilmore 08-05-2003 11:37 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think that, because our cultural diversity means everyone takes everything differently, we've gotten used to assuming, though I hate to phrase it this way, that no one has a sense of humor, no criticism is legitimate, and no one will know if you are kidding about much of anything. 'Cause we're all supposed to live in harmony here, right? So we all limp around trying not to give offense.
Most intelligent societies look to the intent of the speaker when assigning offensiveness. We look to the understanding of the recipient, which means that "good morning" can potentially become an "offensive statement". We are weenies.

paigowprincess 08-05-2003 11:40 AM

How Would Jesus Park?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Let me give you an example. One of my cousin's nickname is "Porkie" because he was chubby. He is now considerably slimmer, but still known as "Porkie", "Fatty" etc. My nickname is "Bump", as in bump-on-a-log because I am very quiet and apparently pretty dull. I think some of my aunts and uncles don't know my name because I am (still) just referred to as "our little bump". My aunt is kind of naiive and she is referred to so often as the "silly cow" that it's almost her nickname. It sounds dysfunctional and nasty, but these nicknames are all terms of endearment - you wouldn't call someone an insulting name if you didn't love him. I'm not trying to defend it, it just seems to be the way things are for British people (less so now, they seem to be getting just as flaky over there as here).
My sister and I know Daddy loved us bc I was known as "Useless" and she was "The Smeller"


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