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ThurgreedMarshall 03-12-2019 11:27 AM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 521381)
I wasn't even thinking about the sex crimes. I was thinking that it is highly improbable that she has been selling access to Trump without his somehow getting his cut, which would be corrupt.
Agreed. But if Kraft is getting hand jobs, who else in that circle is too?

TM

Adder 03-12-2019 11:54 AM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 521379)
Trump’s payoff for Stormy doesn’t warrant prosecution.
It absolutely does, via impeachment.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-12-2019 12:07 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 521387)
Agreed. But if Kraft is getting hand jobs, who else in that circle is too?

TM
I hope the spa kept good records.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 12:07 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 521384)
Trump's been hanging with criminal elements since his early days in NY. These are usually people he like to have around him.
Well, in fairness, development work does require exposure to some folks with slightly less than sterling reputations. Particularly in decades past.

But even assuming he likes to hang with goodfellas, a hand job magnate? WTF?

Then again, the couple people I know who are members at Mar a Lago are seriously cheesy and weird, so perhaps it's not unexpected.

Michael Wolfe should have done a book on that club rather than the White House. The shit that goes in in there must be amazing.

Hank Chinaski 03-12-2019 12:31 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 521389)
I hope the spa kept good records.
And electronic, not a hard copy book

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 12:43 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 521388)
It absolutely does, via impeachment.
Um, we were both taking about criminal prosecution.

I'm not sure that's a high crime or misdemeanor, but I also can't be certain it isn't. Seems on the line.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 12:45 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 521389)
I hope the spa kept good records.
I want to see Epstein's records. He allegedly videotaped his parties. Trump and Prince Andrew attended a few.

That dude could hold a motherlode of dirt on serious scumbaggery by some seriously powerful men.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 12:51 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 521386)
I most definitely did not make that up. It is being investigated. And what you wrote is surely more plausible. But if you think it's a stretch that the guy who raw dogs porn stars attended this woman's happy ending spa before he became President and received a hand job, you are on an island by yourself.

TM
I totally agree that Trump has probably stopped at hand job joints as you and I might stop at Starbucks. (There's an Idiocracy tie-in there that's depressingly apt, btw.)

But in the spirit of Point/Counterpoint, Trump does seem to prefer playmates and porn stars. Karen McDougal isn't trading hand jobs at the local rub n tug. Nor is Stormy (for at least another five years). So maybe not?

ThurgreedMarshall 03-12-2019 12:57 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 521394)
I totally agree that Trump has probably stopped at hand job joints as you and I might stop at Starbucks. (There's an Idiocracy tie-in there that's depressingly apt, btw.)

But in the spirit of Point/Counterpoint, Trump does seem to prefer playmates and porn stars. Karen McDougal isn't trading hand jobs at the local rub n tug. Nor is Stormy (for at least another five years). So maybe not?
He seems like a wherever-and-whenever-he-can-get-it, kind of guy, no? If Melania is at Mar-a-Lago, take a quick trip to the spa. If he's in Russia, send some prostitutes to his room. If he's at an event with a porn star, see if he can hook that up. If he's near a teen pageant dressing room, get in there and watch them undress. If it's just a normal woman, "move on 'em like a bitch" and "grab 'em by the pussy."

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 12:58 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 521380)
Josh Marshall:



It's less that this is going to be a huge scandal and more the strong suspicion that there is a lot more of this going on than is showing up in the press.



That's the most recent story. But since many of those involved were lying until quite recently about what happened, you can be suspicious about whether this story will hold.
A family member of mine was in a small room with Trump within the past year. And got a selfie! What am I doing humping it in biz development? I'm leaving cash on the table!

Tyrone Slothrop 03-12-2019 01:09 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Why Trump cheats at golf.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 01:13 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 521395)
He seems like a wherever-and-whenever-he-can-get-it, kind of guy, no? If Melania is at Mar-a-Lago, take a quick trip to the spa. If he's in Russia, send some prostitutes to his room. If he's at an event with a porn star, see if he can hook that up. If he's near a teen pageant dressing room, get in there and watch them undress. If it's just a normal woman, "move on 'em like a bitch" and "grab 'em by the pussy."

TM
I tend to agree, but then I recall his years on Howard, where he critiqued the shit out of women. He seemed to be quite picky.

Regardless of his pathology, if you need to burden a masseuse in a strip mall to rub one out, you're pathetically lazy. Do it yourself, fat man. Get some exercise for once.

Adder 03-12-2019 01:26 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 521398)
I tend to agree, but then I recall his years on Howard, where he critiqued the shit out of women. He seemed to be quite picky.

Regardless of his pathology, if you need to burden a masseuse in a strip mall to rub one out, you're pathetically lazy. Do it yourself, fat man. Get some exercise for once.
Apropos of Ty's link, I think you're discounting the possibility that demeaning the women involved is something he likes.

Hank Chinaski 03-12-2019 01:33 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 521397)
A few years back I was playing at Park Grove, my client's annual retreat. The foursome was the CEO, his two division presidents and me. It wasn't even serious- I can't play, the CEO really couldn't. It was nice. We were celebrating a recent win. Beautiful location.

Then about the 4th tee CEO muffs his tee shot. "Can I get a Mulligan?"

Suddenly the atmosphere changed. It should not matter. We were playing to be out there, not for anything else. But it clearly had changed.

One of the Presidents says, "Ted, you're the guest, what do you say?"

I say, "Hmm, this doesn't seem a legal question, more business."

The presidents looked at the ground for a second, then one says, "Sure, tee it back up."

It was weird, but definitely a show of power.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-12-2019 01:51 PM
Re: Downward Departures for Gout
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 521399)
Apropos of Ty's link, I think you're discounting the possibility that demeaning the women involved is something he likes.
Also the possibility he cannot wrap his short fingers around anything wider than a pencil.


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