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Nazi Germany wasn't "terrorism" it was a country killing millions. And I don't know, I'm a dim bulb, and definitions don't mean much to me, and my fam is Jewie, I ain't immune to the Charlotteville hate, but the two seem different, not in degree of evil, but in spreading fear to peeps generally? |
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Where did Club go? |
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That's hot. |
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And that one does not understand what happened with gay rights, for that matter. |
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How America Lost Its Mind
Long, but worth every syllable. And it gets better as it reaches the end.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...s-mind/534231/ |
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But it's still delusion, and you're a kid in short pants when it comes to thinking on these issues. |
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Pretty much all of American literature is about bigotry. It is central to our identity. The never ending struggle with our dark side is as defining to who we are as much as our idealistic side embracing freedom, equality and justice. If you don't deal with prejudice and bigotry, you're probably not American. Maybe Canadian? |
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Bannon leaves today.
A rodent leaving a floundering vessel. |
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You? |
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From the Right Wing Circle Jerk...
Received this from 5 different GOP/Indie friends over past couple days.
The information siloing since Trump is amazing: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1642976...ysteria-bubble It's like the right and left live on different planets. |
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"My upcoming book, Win Bigly, tells you how to persuade others." I think Adder would have more luck there, and that's not saying much. eta: The thing that was different this week was that it was about Nazis and white supremacy, not just racists, and Trump couldn't bring himself to say those things are wrong. He and his defenders are trying to make it about "race" more generally so that they can tell a story with two sides. But most people in the country find it easy to say Nazis are bad, and Trump doesn't. (And it's not that he doesn't want to be a moral leader -- he has not problem condemning Islamic terrorism, illegal immigration, fake news and leaks. That doesn't seem to have occurred to Adams.) |
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The official GOP position isn't Bannon's. But the unofficial one? Absolutely. Read his recent interview. The culture war is the winning strategy... because Trump's record sure as fuck isn't. The Left and Right are on exactly the same page: Overwrought, dramatic, open conflict. (Neither has jack shit in terms of constructive policy, so expect new levels of knuckle-dragging, mean-spirited, dimwitted emotional bullshit.) ETA: The Right will be actively trying to trigger the Left. The goal is to scare people. Elements of the GOP think this "Antifa" crowd can be lured into serious violence. It's cynical, and I think misguided, as there aren't many Antifa people out there. But the GOP is going to try it nonetheless. It'll be a lot like the "Black Panthers at polling stations" silliness from 2012. |
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The GOP wants to bring out the most shrill voices of the Left to whip up the anti-anti-Trump voters. Exactly as Bannon noted in his interview with the American Spectator. By the way, it's working. People in the middle aren't picking a side (because neither is offering much in the way of actual policy, and the middle only really cares about the economy and market, which are doing okay for the moment). They're checking out, disgusted with Trump. But also disgusted with the Resistance. It's exhausting to watch for most people, and the default proposition (pretty accurate) is, "Both sides are owned by the same people, and while the man at the top is a huge embarrassment, both are full of shit... and deserve each other." This voter won't punish an R in 2018 because of Trump. He'll view the Trump/Resistance debacle as a freakshow and vote his pocketbook, which choice will be, "don't fuck with a decent economy... vote an incumbent." Ds won't lose seats as anticipated, but they won't gain any, either. Maybe some trades here and there, with an R losing in one place and a D losing in another. Largely a wash, if all things remain relatively the same through the mid-terms. Which they are likely to do. If the events of this Presidency haven't caused a massive economic shock thus far, I don't think anything this nut does will ever do so. (By the way, I do not think this is a healthy economy, for many reasons I've previously stated. But relative to where it's been over the last ten years, given the market gain a lot of people [particularly the old] mistake for the actual economy, and the absence of volatility despite crazy world events, it is easy to perceive the economy is on solid footing.) |
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To a lot of people, Trump was an illegitimate president from the start. As were W in 2000, and Obama in 2008. I could understand how W could be an illegitimate president given how that race was decided. But Obama? He won. Resoundingly, twice. And Trump? Like it or not, he won. The Resistance is of course not as bad as the Nazis. Nothing is. But more generally, regarding the Right and Left (to which I was referring), at this moment, both are in cuckoo pants land. And they're not listening to a single syllable the other side is saying. I've said to serious Rightie friends, "Hey, the fucking guy excused Nazis. And he's a fucking idiot. Come on..." They react like I'd offered heresy, and talk about how the media's been kneecapping Trump from the start. Moderate Rs are more circumspect. They see both sides. I've said to Liberal friends, "I assess policies, not politicians... I think Trump needs to go, because he's a horrible spectacle, but I'm not losing my mind over it." They accuse me of suborning Nazism. Unless you're 100% against everything tied to this Administration, you're the enemy. And... I'm still getting emails from right wing friends about how Obama ruined the country! It's wild. I read shit here and everybody lives in This Reality. Then I read the crazy emails from GOPers, and everybody lives in That Reality. The Right is clearly more untethered. But the siloing is simply amazing. I haven't seen it this overheated since Fahrenheit 9/11. Serenity Now... Serenity Now! |
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Your argument is that liberals are to blame for calling people out on their bullshit such that the people who have been called out are so wounded that they decided to vote for an overt racist who explicitly condoned violence because of hurt feelings? We have to be responsible for them putting a racist in office because when they overlooked racist shit we said that makes them, at the very least, okay with racism and at worst racist? This is absolutely batshit crazy. TM |
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Get a fucking grip. TM |
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The problem with your argument and all the assholes who get called out on their bullshit is that none of you actually listen or think when someone asks you to consider anything when it comes to race. There are degrees of racism. And the fact that someone asks someone else to consider their confirmation bias or to understand what "privilege" is and how it exists is not the same as being accused of being a fucking Nazi. The fact that they can't hear something like that and not have a knee jerk reaction to identifying with a man who used accusations of our sitting President being a non-citizen from deep, dark, evil Africa and placing that man in power is asinine. And the fact that you blame the left for that type of reaction is beyond. TM |
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