Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

Gosh darn, I didn't get picked for the jury. But I can report that the defendant (criminal case) had horribly bad fashion sense. Loud navy pinstripe suit (think British style) and the pinstripes were white and maroon. Flashy metal crest buttons too!! And the tie - ugh some abstract yellow/navy design. I feel like stopping by the courtroom today just to see what he is wearing.

Would I have sex on a reality show? Not unless I was drunk and horny. But then again, I don't plan on auditioning for any reality shows.

How many is too many cats? 2 (unless of course those 2 had kittens and you hav to keep them until they are weened and you've found homes for all of them).

Cape Cod Wedding attire? Personally I can't stand seersucker but some guys can pull it off. Are the bow tie and straw hat mandatory when wearing seersucker? I can't picture it any other way. I'd enourage the SO to weat a khaki or light colored suit. Golf attire is for the golf course, you'll look like you crashed the reception after playing 18.

On another topic - did anyone catch Sex Change (or something like that) last night on TLC? I was fascinated, but couldn't watch the whole program. It followed several men through the various stages of living as and becoming women. Facial surgery, hormones, gender modification surgery, etc. They really go thorugh a lot. I though it interesting that they only talked about men becoming women, not women who become men.

Anyone know anybody like this? One of the individuals they featured was a paralegal (no firm/city mentioned) and the only transsexual I've known of was a paralegal. Coincidence?


Anne
Never thought of using the Odwalla Lime Quencher as a mixer, but I'm thinking rum.

Noah Wylie leaving ER
 

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,...0.html?eol.tkr

My question (one I've had for about 5 years) - who the hell is still watching this show?! That shark was jumped so many seasons ago. I just don't see how it could be on the air.

But then I had the same issues with Full House, Family Matters and whatever other crap family programming airs on Friday and Saturday nights, though, to be fair, I am likely not their target demographic.

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
 

Chances are that cynical (and liberal) TM practicioners would observe that, if indeed registered, Fox News' mark is stronger than ever. Instead of being merely descriptive of the product, it's moved into the realm of "fanciful."

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

I do. Jean (was Gene) is a 40ish computer software person who is a dive instructor on the side. She has the "final cut" in a few weeks. I only realize that she is not a born woman when her boobs float out of her dive gear. Or when Mr. Kiss told me about the time her balls fell out of her shorts. I missed that episode. Really a nice person though.

Laminated list
 

What?

http://ue.eu.int/pesc/envoye/imgs/Ashdown_new.jpg

Unless this is strictly an intellectual crush list. I have an intellect laminated list with Francis Deng, Philip Gourevitch and William Shawcross on it.

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
 

Transcendental meditation? I really thought that when I first saw the TM.

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
 

If one examines the mastheads and claims of such stellar organizations as the NYT, one sees that "fanciful" is the base requirement, really, of such labels.

(Although, in fairness, the Blair episode did serve to make their mission-statement claim that they "create news" much more accurate.)

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
 

Not followers of Thurgreed's version of Zen?

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

A then-male law school classmate is now a woman. Lawyer at a good-sized firm.

The Restaurant
 

I have only started watching this, since the owner's bad behavior has made it fun in a train-wreck way.

Here's more good news about Rocco's from the Smoking Gun: bad health inspection.

Nicole Kidman & Lenny Kravitz? and Transsexuals
 

MSN's reporting that Nicole Kidman & Lenny Kravitz are a hot-n-heavy couple. She doesn't have to wear flats to soothe his fragile ego at least!

Some of the transsexuals on that documentary last night were very pretty and convincingly female. Others not so much--still looked like guys with stage makeup on. Perhaps the hormone treatments will help? And in good related news--now illegal to discriminate against the transgendered in 4 states with more considering it!

Nicole Kidman & Lenny Kravitz? and Transsexuals
 

I saw that on Salon.com today. Seems like an odd coupling, but good for them! Saw him in concert last year and all I have to say is he is hot. The gossip I read said that they are renting a boat for a 3 week vacation together. I want one of those! The vacation, that is.

If only the cheerleaders had been totally naked
 

That, according to ESPN, would have made XFL work. Funny article but I think that Disco Demolition Night should have rated number 1. I cannot believe that they left out Mike Veeck's other funny promos (Tonya Harding Bat Night :eek: ).

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/bigg...rtnersite=espn


edited to add that this is an article about bad decisions in sports just in case it wasn't clear.

Nicole Kidman & Lenny Kravitz? and Transsexuals
 

If I had a laminated list, Lenny is the first listed.

Agreed. Anne (blonde paralegal) was quite feminine (looks like a friend of mine actually) as was the English brunette with the short hair. The blonde who worked in the clothing store much less so. Even at the end I couldn't see that big a change.

Laminated list
 

You see what I mean about the puffiness. But no, not really an intellectual crush, I spent a good deal of my university time wanting to jump him. He's got that tough-guy, man's man thing going on. 5-10 years ago, watching him kicking some ass in Commons was TOTALLY HOT. He was absolutely the sexiest man in politics.

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

I had a friend who worked with a guy "Terry" who was going through the "transition period." He came dressed to work as a woman after weeks of hormone therapy. Problem arose when the guys didn't want him dressing in the men's locker room (they wore uniforms) because he was dressed and presented as a woman, and the women didn't want him dressing in the women's locker room (because technically he was still a man). It was tough on him/her so they made accomodations for him to dress in his own room. Friend quit long before his surgery, so don't know what happened post-op.

Edited to add, 3 cats is the absolute max that a person should have in 1 house. And even then, that's borderline.

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

That's funny because I wonder if the guys would have objected to sharing a dressing room if Terry had been a "real" female. I can somewhat understand the feelings of the women because Terry is still technically a man, dress or not. The response of the men is weak. If they feel threatened or disturbed by a man becoming a woman they should say it rather than presenting the feeble argument that they couldn't possibly bear to share a changing room with a woman -- "no way could I get comfortable with watching Pamela Anderson change/get dressed" yeah, right!

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

I guess that was the tough call. At what point do you cease to be a man? After the op? After implants? It was an interesting story to hear because this guy had been working there for years and was doing the hormone therapy unannounced. It was not until he started coming to work dressed as a woman that people were alerted to the fact that he was pre-op and would soon be completely female.

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

I know several. I met the first openly transgendered person I knew after I moved here and got back involved in the gay rights movement.

Now I would say I know about half a dozen who are transgendered, either post operative or going through the process, and lord knows how many who are transsexual.

Is FX the station that plays 90210 repeats 24/7?
 

Guess I'll need to find out, because the concept of this new reality show sounds kinda interesting -

NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) -- Cable channel FX is going ahead with its first reality series, an import from Portugal where it is known as "Masterplan."

The series will follow an individual 24 hours a day, seven days a week who has agreed to turn over his life decisions to the viewers, who vote via phone and the Internet after each episode. FX will begin running seven one-hour episodes in its "Friday Night Fix" programming block in October. It has the option of ordering additional episodes, possibly with a different subject.

Full story here - http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...eut/index.html


Of course if the choices are "should he go with the tuna salad sandwich or the pastrami on rye??!?" then maybe it won't be that good...

The Cat Slippery Slope
 

That would imply that I am further up your wackadoo list than PP - true? Of course, there comes a point where one is so nutty that one fails to recognize one's craziness. Perhaps I'm already there.

-T(But TM, I'm sure you'd just wuv my snuffley-wuffly, fluffy, ittle baby kittie-pies!)L


p.s. I think I'm going to TUIMMALB now.

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

Basic homophobia, I think, combined with the fear of the unknown (to the extent that homophobia isn't just the fear of the unknown anyway.)

Is FX the station that plays 90210 repeats 24/7?
 

We've had a version of this in California for almost five years now. Problem is, he's getting recalled.

Monday Poll
 

Amanda and David most definitely had sex the night before Amanda was evicted from the house (BB fans were hoping this would kick off a tradition that the lame duck would get his/her choice of booty on his/her last night).

But it's not the first time. Will and Shannon had sex on BB2, or something close enough to it as makes no difference. They didn't show it on the CBS show but it was very evident (so I'm told) on the live feeds. And let me just say that damn that Shannon was fine.

On the Euro and African Big Brothers, sex is de rigeur.

You may now resume your non-Big Brother activities.

The Cat Slippery Slope
 

What about a dog that gives bad poker tips?

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

A few years back (before I was a lawyer) I worked in an office building near the Stanford hospital. We shared a floor with a renowned gender dysphoria clinic and the offices shared common restrooms. When I first started working in the building, I was amazed at how many women could pee standing up and I wondered if there was something my mother had forgotten to tell me. Once I realized that gender was a transitory thing, I started to appreciate how difficult it must have been for the patients of the clinic. Which bathroom? Stand up or sit down? And on and on.

I remember a kid from high school who moved to New York, became a woman and hung out in the Andy Warhol crowd. She was always willowy and cute and most of my high school friends thought she made the absolutely correct choice.

Transexuals
 

Random question for anyone in the peanut gallery who would know:

What percentage of transgendered people are gay? After surgery I mean. I have the impression (based on nothing whatsoever) that the percentage is fairly high.

Transexuals
 

I don't know percentage, but I know it is quite common for the transgendered male to female folk to be gay. I am probably speaking out of turn though, it is just of the ones I know, they are with women.

I don't know about transgendered women, I think frequently they are straight, but I don't actually know any transgendered women who are out as transgendered.

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

I know a pre-op transsexual, and s/he has demonstrated why they're required to go through intense psych evaluations before they're allowed to go through the whole thing. S/he has told me that s/he's a lesbian and that s/he won't have to ever deal with harrassment from men because of that. S/he's also into sending around women-power quotes to all the women s/he knows. When s/he was clearly a he, he'd been prosecuted for stalking an ex. S/he currently works at a Barnes & Noble in Atlanta, but I think that s/he was having difficulties with work because of em's new status. The judge that s/he went to for em's name change wouldn't let em make the change because the judge felt that the whole thing was wrong.

On a similar vein, thanks to storms in Houston yesterday, my flight was delayed four hours after we'd boarded, and I was able to finish Middlesex. At times it got to be a bit tedious, but I really enjoyed the characters. Euginedes talks at one point about emotions being extraordinarily complex and simple words like "sad" or "disappointed" don't convey that complexity. This book, I thought, was very good at showing the range of complexity of human emotion.

Transexuals
 

Not quite the same thing, but this discussion reminds me of Eddie Izzard's act - he discusses the fact that many transvestites are actually straight, and tells the audience to think of him as a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

And, Penske, I noticed your little Eddie Izzard riff yesterday (il est un transvestite sportif! internationale! etc.)

Transexuals
 

As someone who was forcibly transgendered by paigow one afternoon on the old FB, I can tell you it had no effect whatsoever on my sexual appetites or orientations. I suggest that further study of Penske in this regard is in order, however. NTTAWWT.

Nicole Kidman & Lenny Kravitz? and Transsexuals
 

A friend of mine hung out in his studio in New Orleans quite a bit last year doing some artwork for him. Said he as a very cool, very nice guy.

Transgendered
 

I always wondered about the gay issue. The transgendered person that I knew of, was in a hetero relationship before she made the transition. The relationship survived the surgery, so does that make them gay?

Cat-sup and Transexuals
 

The one transgendered person that I knew (she has fallen out of my circle of friends) was pretty psychologically messed up. I don't think any doctor would carry through on the surgery for her. I did really feel for her and hope that some of the required counseling would help with her apparent pain/depression.

Re: Middlesex, I read the beginning and then put it down for something that I was more interested in at the time. It would be hard to pick back up again at this point, but maybe I'll do so while travelling this fall/winter.

Transgendered
 

I know it is confusing, I find it so still, but I am learning.

Think of it this way. We have our sex (gender), and we have our sexuality. Most people are born with both the correct gender for themselves and heterosexual sexuality.

I.e. a man is born male, is comfortable in his body as a male and is attracted to women.

A woman is born female, is comfortable in her body as a female, and is attracted to men.

That is most of you reading this board, and most people in general.

Some people are born with the correct gender for themselves and homosexual sexuality (or perhaps bisexual sexuality.)

I.e. someone like myself, a woman comfortable in her body as a woman, but attracted to women instead of men

Still other people are born with the incorrect gender for themselves, but, they are heterosexual until they correct their gender, at which point they become homosexual.

I.e. a man who was born male and is attracted to women (heterosexual) but was born the incorrect sex and has surgery to correct this becoming both female and homosexual.

And finally others are born with the incorrect gender for themselves, but they are homosexual, until they correct their gender, at which point they become heterosexual.

I.e. a woman who was born female and is attracted to women (homosexual) but also born the incorrect gender for herself so she has surgery to become male, and is now heterosexual.

Remember though some people are bisexual, and you can have a woman who is heterosexual and comfortable in her birth sex marry a man who is heterosexual and was born the wrong sex who choose to stay together after the surgery. I don't know you would call that heterosexual woman homosexual now, she's probably bisexual, or even simply loved her husband, now wife so much that she decided what sex the person was didn't matter. I don't know how often this happens, but I know it does happen.

Transexuals
 

The one transgender woman I have known as more than a passing acquantence has extensive materials online related to transgendered issues.

http://www.sandystone.com/
(spree: Sandy's a bit odd, but I didn't come across any pictures that would be outre)

I seem to recall reading something from her website a few years ago confirming this observed trend: a higher percentage of transgendered individuals are gay as well (from the perspective of the target gender). I couldn't find the info on her site which she has redesigned since the last time I visited, but it may still be there. I know a few years back Ms. Stone was advocating very forcefully her right to participate in issues of lesbian and feminist studies, and addressing the resistence she often encountered from women who viewed her as an outsider and interloper.

Transexuals
 

I just read this three times and it still makes no sense to me. Break it down. In the first para, it looks like you are saying that once the M --> F, then they are gay and are in FF relationships? Then in the second para, you say that transgendered women (ie the F in a M-->F scenario) are straight. THis is completely contradictory. So which is it?

I ask bc I recently found out someone I knew as a man is now a woman and apparently still lives with his/her wife. Not clear whether they fuck or if its for the kids or what.

Transexuals
 

If I may paraphrase: You are who you are, and you love who you love. These qualities may function somewhat independently of each other.

Transexuals
 

That works :)

Transexuals
 

athat was the subsequent post not the one to which I replied.

but thanks for playing