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 "Why do women always want to compete with men on this level? They can't. World class women athletes can beat the hell out of most males in whatever sport they're in, but they cannot compete with world class male athletes, period." Post #5861 "Sorenstam is naturally, physically incapable of competing with men on the same level in professional golf." Post #6127 Put these two together, and your central premise translates to: "Women are naturally physically incapable of competing with men on the same level in professional golf." Absent affirmative proof to the contrary, this is a completely asinine statement. With due acknowledgement to the physical differences between men and women, and acknowedging that in some respects, women might be disadvantaged because of these differences, it doesn't automatically mean that women are incapable of being competitive with men in PGA Tour events, unless your definition of competitive reaches an standard you wouldn't apply to most of the men on tour. You have a lot of nice little hedges in your argument like she will not prove that she can be competitive with the guys on the tour until she qualifies (and doesn't finish dead last) in a major, and that if she was (by some miracle) competitive in this tournament it would only mean she played well in this particular tournament on a course that suits her. You also stated that that she probably couldn't qualify for her Tour card if she tried. Unfortunately, this is all just a convenient way of using semantics to show that your blanket statement on the subject (i.e. that women are incapable of competing with men in professional golf) can never be proven wrong, at least not by her. First of all most men on the tour aren't in a position to qualify for a major. Second, because you and I both know it is 99.9% certain she will never pursue these options (Why would she?), you're safe (for the moment) in your blanket statement that no woman is capable of competing with men in professional golf. How big of you. This is why I became convinced we were talking past each other, since I considered PGA Tour Professionals as a class world-class athletes, so that if she was competitive with them in this tournament, it would show that women (since she is one) could compete with men at the same level in professional golf. Your argument that she chose this tournament because it played to her strengths is just smoke. Not every PGA professional plays every tournament anyway and those they choose to play I would venture to guess are chosen based on maximizing their chances for success. Why should you bitch about her doing nothing different from what most of the guys on tour normally do? IMHO, your points #1 and 2, were not worth spending a lot of time arguing about because unless the rules are changed, it's a fucking moot point, and you were consistent on these throughout. Wrongheaded -- but consistent. As to #3, you were also consistent. But just because it may be harder for someone to compete, doesn't mean they are incapable of being competitive. As to point #4, I could give less than a rat's ass about what some anonymous chat board retard thinks about me. Point #5 is where you're really being inconsistent, and why I think you're full of shit when you say, "I hope she does well", because then your argument starts to fall apart under it's own fucking weight, if judged by normal non-Thurgreed standards. (See "hedges" above). | 
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 Out here, even the boozehounds on Polk Street are stuffing their rumpled paper sacks with Charles Shaw, which uses real cork in a $2 bottle, so the board of supes will probably have to distribute corkscrews at taxpayer expense. "This corkscrew brought to you by Sen. John Burton. Not for use on PlumpJack wines."* *Warning: Inside SF politics joke. | 
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 While this is a battle between the ultra-left and the insanely-left, it's gotten ugly. It's literally been reduced to two atheists posting billboards accusing the other of getting the WWJD question wrong. *The hottie prosecutor from the dog-mauling trial, Kimberly Guilfoyle. | 
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